1UP Preview: Huxley the 360 version

Since 6835 Days

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?Dispatch=Display...

pc and 360 players will battle together but have seperate cities. 360 version will have an exclusive campaign mode. pc version will release 6 months before the 360 version.

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smaddady

Since 6979 Days

200+ player battles sound amazing. Ill just have to wait and see if my PC can run it. Otherwise, I'll just play it on 360. Damn it feels good to have options!

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Optimusv2

Since 6892 Days

Hmm very interesting and if i can avoid those really UGLY characters that I saw them displaying so much and create a character that has some really cool look clothes then i'm all for it ;)

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[b] Never judge a game too harshly via screenshots or videos, because they are in no way capable of properly representing what the game truly looks like were you to see it running in front of you on a 360 [/b]

Phaethon360

Since 6846 Days

I like the fact that the 360 ver has a campaign. It'll allow for practice before getting pwned by the 6 month lead the PC users will have .

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Optimusv2

Since 6892 Days

They are indeed very smart for giving the 360 version a single player campaign.

Oh man... 360 controller versus pc users with their keyboard and mouse! Whats crazy is I'll be amazing even with my 360 controller, but I'm god with a keyboard and mouse, but I'll show them who's boss. Not only that there is a very high chance that not all pc users will have a pc that runs it flawlessly so we can just take advantage of people with bad pcs :P

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[b] Never judge a game too harshly via screenshots or videos, because they are in no way capable of properly representing what the game truly looks like were you to see it running in front of you on a 360 [/b]

Freniger

Since 7016 Days

I have a feeling tehy are going to cut the PC vs 360 feature. The 360 players are going to get killed. A mouse and keyboard is far mroe precise than a controller.

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Phaethon360

Since 6846 Days

COD2 was alot better to me using the 360 controller than using mouse and keyboard. But if UT2k7 gets ported over, I expect an adapter like they had for the Xbox. I wouldn't be surprised if MS released an official set created by logitech.

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davidnay

Since 6888 Days

Us xbox 360 users are gonna need some handicap points

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Shawnzee

Since 7012 Days

This will be great, now I can prove to my pc playing friends, that you dont need a kb/m to be good a fps'.

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GriftGFX

Since 7000 Days

Posted by Freniger

I have a feeling tehy are going to cut the PC vs 360 feature. The 360 players are going to get killed. A mouse and keyboard is far mroe precise than a controller.

Yup..I think the notion is insane, actually..when it comes down to it there is no comparison..though I believe that with ELO it doesn't matter what controller the person is using--because the math will fit them into a proper game experience. Match making is not always the optimal way of playing though..

I think Auto-aim/Cursor Adhesion is quite enough of a handicap though, for the most part..but it wouldn't be enough to make that an even competition..granted..but some people just suck..for that, Op can beat them up with his gamepad.

I'd imagine they'd make it possible (I hope) to tell what the people you're playing with are using--so that you might filter out gamepad players if you'd like..personally--I'd rather that no one I'm playing with use a pad..screw that. I don't know how people can even play COD2 on a pad--but I guess when it's what everyone else is using, it's not that bad..well, I know how you CAN do it..I just don't know why anyone would want to. Probably a pretty different experience all together..small rooms, slower pace..32+ player COD2 servers are non-stop and ultra fast..it's run and gun, more or less--with aiming and good hit detection.

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[quote=Freniger]I have a feeling tehy are going to cut the PC vs 360 feature. The 360 players are going to get killed. A mouse and keyboard is far mroe precise than a controller.[/quote]

Yup..I think the notion is insane, actually..when it comes down to it there is no comparison..though I believe that with ELO it doesn't matter what controller the person is using--because the math will fit them into a proper game experience. Match making is not always the optimal way of playing though..

I think Auto-aim/Cursor Adhesion is quite enough of a handicap though, for the most part..but it wouldn't be enough to make that an even competition..granted..but some people just suck..for that, Op can beat them up with his gamepad.

I'd imagine they'd make it possible (I hope) to tell what the people you're playing with are using--so that you might filter out gamepad players if you'd like..personally--I'd rather that no one I'm playing with use a pad..screw that.  I don't know how people can even play COD2 on a pad--but I guess when it's what everyone else is using, it's not that bad..well, I know how you CAN do it..I just don't know why anyone would want to.  Probably a pretty different experience all together..small rooms, slower pace..32+ player COD2 servers are non-stop and ultra fast..it's run and gun, more or less--with aiming and good hit detection.

Ajsomfan

Since 6813 Days

Posted by Shawnzee

This will be great, now I can prove to my pc playing friends, that you dont need a kb/m to be good a fps'.

Two equal players, one with controller one with mouse/kb the latter will always win. Always! And yes, autoaim will of course be disabled!

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Shawnzee

Since 7012 Days

Posted by Ajsomfan

Two equal players, one with controller one with mouse/kb the latter will always win. Always! And yes, autoaim will of course be disabled!

Thats just a myth.

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Sath

Since 6866 Days

I loved Huxley on the first time I saw it being announced, and it has always been one of my favorite games that I am looking foward to.

I just love pure sci-fi and fantasy either seperatly or in combination, like Final fantasy Dirge of Cerberus or Advent Children style.

The Graphics are hot, veichles or rough and the races are awesome. But there is no sign the different weapons on how they work and look like in game. But thats all gonna change in E3.

So as far as the sci-fi FPS goes, or the whole FPS in general for me (only play sci-fi FPS) so is Huxley, Dark Sector, Project IM and Wardevil is my most anticipated games I am waiting for, and thats from day one.

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Acert93

Since 6971 Days

Posted by Freniger

I have a feeling tehy are going to cut the PC vs 360 feature. The 360 players are going to get killed. A mouse and keyboard is far mroe precise than a controller.

I hope they leave it in! There are a couple posters who believe gamepads are just as good as KB/MS >:) I would love to "demo" how poor a gamepad is compared to a KB/MS in a FPS! Muwahahahaha

They could always do a small Live filter

ALLOW:
KB/MS
Gamepad
Both

Anyhow, not a big fan of Huxley's art, but if they allow KB/MS and 200 people.... I would be interested!

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I am too poor to own a 360... therefor I play with paper statistics. The results of my indepth scientific anaylisis determined the most important benchmark is Pi. As in The Ring of Light.

Optimusv2

Since 6892 Days

Keyboard and mouse users dominating controller users isn't a guarantee at all I hope you guys know that. For every good fps player on the pc out there.. there are many more TERRIBLE people with keyboard and mouse I should know i use to play counter-strike quite a bit still play every now and then.

There are some AMAZING controller players out there like team3d's halo 2 team which is just unstoppable.

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[b] Never judge a game too harshly via screenshots or videos, because they are in no way capable of properly representing what the game truly looks like were you to see it running in front of you on a 360 [/b]

SimonM7

Since 7023 Days

Filter schmilter. I played Action Quake 2 with a shoddy gamepad for my PC for about a year and I was surprisingly fine. It comes down to how the game is tweaked, how the weapons work, and what sort of combat situation it puts you in. If this is a Tribes like thing with an open environment and vehicles and shit, who knows, you might not even need twitch based ultra precision.

If these people are considering pitching 360 owners against PC owners then surely they must've considered the potential gameplay issues with that. If they haven't they're just absolute nutters.

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LEBATO

Since 7122 Days

Well, the singleplayer is more like an afterthought, I'm not expecting any special from the single player. As for the Keyboard/Mouse VS. Controller, kb/m is more accurate, you can easily notice this when you play PC shooters for some time and then try to aim in Halo 2, or any other FPS on consoles, it's just not as accurate nor as fast, and that's a fact.

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Jasper

Since 6934 Days

Well, I'va played with kb/m exlusively for almost 10 years, but I've never had any problems with adjusting to a controller. It may be a little les accurate and slower, but these things hardly make a difference in most multiplayer games.
And if you have an online 200-man battle, I doubt the the lack of accurisy of a gamepad is gonna mather that much.

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Optimusv2

Since 6892 Days

You know what you do to make up for the lack of precision when going from keyboard and mouse to controller? You adjust your play, you must know that you are no longer as versatile so you gotta play things smarter.

You will succeed in mmo huxley with a 360 controller by playing smart.

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[b] Never judge a game too harshly via screenshots or videos, because they are in no way capable of properly representing what the game truly looks like were you to see it running in front of you on a 360 [/b]

Acert93

Since 6971 Days

Posted by Jasper

Well, I'va played with kb/m exlusively for almost 10 years, but I've never had any problems with adjusting to a controller.

The issue is not adjustment (I am fine with controllers) but:

1. KB/MS is much more accurate & percise in fine adjustments. Don't believe me? Take a look at many of the movies at Xboxyde, especially the BF2MC movies. Note how they pray and spray, especially while moving. Most gamers have a hard time moving/changing directions WHILE at the same time moving the cross hairs, especially fine adjustments on the fly, to aim.

2. Gamepads don't allow the same amount of speed / finesse in regards to going from a fine movement to a very large FAST movement. e.g. Most console FPS have this lame thing where you push left and after a second or two you begin to move FAST. With a Mouse you can whip 180 degrees in 1/10th of a second.

Heck, on the extreme end some of us are using Mice that adjust sensativity with the tap of a button, taking us from 400-800-1600 resolutions for more accuracy in different environments.

It may be a little les accurate and slower, but these things hardly make a difference in most multiplayer games.

What MP games do you play? I have played quite a few competitively, and I don't know anyone who uses a gamepad.

And if you have an online 200-man battle, I doubt the the lack of accurisy of a gamepad is gonna mather that much.

I hope it matters! In such a large battle if the game is not responsive and accurate it will end up being an unskilled blood bath -- spray and pray.

Since they have 200 people, they need to make the game responsive. Anything less would just be a gimmick--200 people on screen just firing. Feeling overwhelmed with numbers of enemies and little control/accuracy would be a big mistake.

If you look at the best FPS, they all had very tight and balanced game control, including the ability to aim accurately.

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[quote=Jasper]Well, I'va played with kb/m exlusively for almost 10 years, but I've never had any problems with adjusting to a controller.[/quote]
The issue is not adjustment (I am fine with controllers) but:

1. KB/MS is much more accurate & percise in fine adjustments. Don't believe me? Take a look at many of the movies at Xboxyde, especially the BF2MC movies. Note how they pray and spray, especially while moving. Most gamers have a hard time moving/changing directions WHILE at the same time moving the cross hairs, especially fine adjustments on the fly, to aim.

2. Gamepads don't allow the same amount of speed / finesse in regards to going from a fine movement to a very large FAST movement. e.g. Most console FPS have this lame thing where you push left and after a second or two you begin to move FAST. With a Mouse you can whip 180 degrees in 1/10th of a second.

Heck, on the extreme end some of us are using Mice that adjust sensativity with the tap of a button, taking us from 400-800-1600 resolutions for more accuracy in different environments.

[quote]It may be a little les accurate and slower, but these things hardly make a difference in most multiplayer games.[/quote]
What MP games do you play? I have played quite a few competitively, and I don't know anyone who uses a gamepad.

[quote]And if you have an online 200-man battle, I doubt the the lack of accurisy of a gamepad is gonna mather that much.[/quote]

I hope it matters! In such a large battle if the game is not responsive and accurate it will end up being an unskilled blood bath -- spray and pray.

Since they have 200 people, they need to make the game responsive. Anything less would just be a gimmick--200 people on screen just firing. Feeling overwhelmed with numbers of enemies and little control/accuracy would be a big mistake.

If you look at the best FPS, they all had very tight and balanced game control, including the ability to aim accurately.

I am too poor to own a 360... therefor I play with paper statistics. The results of my indepth scientific anaylisis determined the most important benchmark is Pi. As in The Ring of Light.

Acert93

Since 6971 Days

Posted by Optimusv2

You know what you do to make up for the lack of precision when going from keyboard and mouse to controller? You adjust your play, you must know that you are no longer as versatile so you gotta play things smarter.

Playing smart is orthoginal to your input device.

You can play smart + have better controls.

Your don't have to choose. Us FPS addicts don't run around saying, "I got a Mouse, so I can play reckless". Nope, the good ones are very VERY good at tactics and knowing the strengths and weaknesses of their character and the game design and tailor their playing approach to meet it.

So the issue is not one of adjustment--it is a given gamepad plays will need to adjust--the quesiton is on the whole whether gamepad players can adjust to overcome a better control scheme. Your point assumes KB/MS players would likewise not adjust.

There is a reason the best gamers in the world use KB/MS and why MS has openly said that a KB/MS gives an unfair competive advantage.

How about this Optimus, I will take you with my KB/MS vs. your Gamepad ;) We will see how fast you adjust!

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[quote=Optimusv2]You know what you do to make up for the lack of precision when going from keyboard and mouse to controller?  You adjust your play, you must know that you are no longer as versatile so you gotta play things smarter.[/quote]

Playing smart is orthoginal to your input device.

You can play smart + have better controls.

Your don't have to choose. Us FPS addicts don't run around saying, "I got a Mouse, so I can play reckless". Nope, the good ones are very VERY good at tactics and knowing the strengths and weaknesses of their character and the game design and tailor their playing approach to meet it.

So the issue is not one of adjustment--it is a given gamepad plays will need to adjust--the quesiton is on the whole whether gamepad players can adjust to overcome a better control scheme. Your point assumes KB/MS players would likewise not adjust.

There is a reason the best gamers in the world use KB/MS and why MS has openly said that a KB/MS gives an unfair competive advantage.

How about this Optimus, I will take you with my KB/MS vs. your Gamepad ;) We will see how fast you adjust!

I am too poor to own a 360... therefor I play with paper statistics. The results of my indepth scientific anaylisis determined the most important benchmark is Pi. As in The Ring of Light.

Optimusv2

Since 6892 Days

Thats true I know that, but with a controller you aren't as dangerous so naturally you gotta play things a bit smarter. Not saying keyboard and mouse = reckless, but with controller to survive you'll have to be more careful :)

What I'm saying is that there are some TERRIBLE kb/ mouse users out there that would get annihilated by people with a controller. There are terrible people with a controller too, then there are the average keyboard and mouse users that would probably go even with a gamepad user. Now... a keyboard mouse user like myself I think no gamepad user would do too well ;)

http://esportsea.com/index.php?s=servers&d=pugs&id... hehe i love counter-strike, but its been getting the shaft lately thanks to the 360.

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lumzi23

Since 6986 Days

200... Huxley is mine.

I prefer Pad to Keyboard and mouse so I will be playing mainly with consolers.

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Optimusv2

Since 6892 Days

I been kinda average at counter-strike though since march :P

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[b] Never judge a game too harshly via screenshots or videos, because they are in no way capable of properly representing what the game truly looks like were you to see it running in front of you on a 360 [/b]

GriftGFX

Since 7000 Days

Posted by Shawnzee

Thats just a myth.

One of those..true myths.

All things being equal, the controllers aren't.

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