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Since 6724 DaysOk guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently,but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.
It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.
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That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.
Wii60!
"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."
-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)
Since 6858 DaysEDIT: Doh! I had no clue what this was about. Thought it was KZ2.
Since 6956 DaysMy comments on this game/machine been good or bad does not mean i like/hate the machine i am not a fan nor a hater, just i have a opinion and wish to share it.
Since 6858 Days
Since 6988 DaysEither I read that wrong or something, cause wouldn't that make this good news?
This is my December
Since 6846 DaysLike there are 3 2GB partitions on the PS3 HD for temporary file swapping (*not* installation), just like on the old Xbox in fact.
It also say ND are using their own physics engine, but they are not sure yet if it was a good idea to do so or not, because physics are hard.
Lots of streaming, and data redundancy on the bluray disc.
That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.
OMFG, they slightly downgraded the shaders. PS3 is doomed right? WHO THE HELL CARES? They aimed slightly too high, it happens all the time in game development, especially for titles that have been started even before the final specs have been released.
And by ohter guys on Gaf who know french
Me_Marcadet:
60 people working on Uncharted, 14 programmers on the same hierarchy and 2 lead programmers, 5/6 designers for the gameplay and the levels structure and the rest are artists.
There are 20 people working on development tool but not specialy on uncharted (maybe another project ?)
Beta tester are very important for Balestra and they work close to the development team.
They outsource the animation ( it seems there is 60 min of CG video but it can be for motion capture, the article isn't very clear about that ) and audio
Sony give sa lot of freedom and the don't interfer with the development. ND have always respected the delay on their games.
They are working on uncharted since more than 2 years with a little team at the beginning.
They communicate and share a lot with another sony studio like Insomniacs (Balestra considers them like first party), sucker punch, Guerrilla games and Santa Monica.
The gameplay is their first prirotity. He says that nowadays, all the studio can do impressive stuff on a technical point but gameplay is a lot harder.
If they have a godd idea, no matter how it is harder to do with the technic, they continue to achieve the idea.
There are other technical stuff on Cell and the streaming technology that I can't report in english.
f@luS:
theyre 60 working on the game , with 14 programmer including (2 lead and 12 classics)
He talks about the debug and beta test.
Sony trust ND so theyre never under some pression , theyre totally free.
THey talk a lot within differents studio ( Santa monica , Insomniac , Sucker punch (? sly raccon) , and guerilla)
He doesnt want to talk about the cost.
They have some exclusives feature in the sdk that sony is trying to give to the 3rd party.
Theyre taking 3 weeks off per year (end) that explain this interview)
The post prod started 2 years ago
Heavy use of the spe
*Hes saying the PS3 hdd is having 3*2go as a temp buffer*
One hour of cinematics
Since 6895 DaysI'm guessing the Naughty Dog project, Wasn't all that impressed with it in the first place.. hmmm
Marumaro for the WIN !!
Since 6895 Dayshttp://www.naughtydog.com/comingsoon/index.html
Reminds me of a male Tomb Raider though, I wonder if the Next Tomb Raider will look just as good.
EDIT
Thats looks hugely downgraded.
Marumaro for the WIN !!
Since 7012 DaysIt does remind me of Tomb Raider. I hope the gameplay reminds me of Tomb Raider too. The setting/enviroment almost remind me of Flashback for some reason.
Goddamn that was one hell of a game.
Since 6956 DaysMy comments on this game/machine been good or bad does not mean i like/hate the machine i am not a fan nor a hater, just i have a opinion and wish to share it.
Since 6883 Days
Since 6895 DaysThey may say 90% but, it's pretty much like the whole Forza 2 thing (PR damage control), as time goes on the difference will become more and more apparent.
I actually think Alone in the Dark 5 is looking better than this at the moment, obviously early screens and things will change, but right now it's not looking very good to me.
I would have much prefered to see a next gen Jak and Daxter than this.
Hopefully they do obtain the 90% as the trailer is quite impressive. (but i will believe it when i see it)
Marumaro for the WIN !!
Since 7012 Days
Since 6724 DaysAnd, this game doesn't even come close to the target render by looking at the GI picture Jollipop posted. Not only that but Tomb Raider Legend on the X360 can compete with that, and thats just a port. Sad, but true.
Wii60!
"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."
-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)
Since 6724 DaysThey may say 90% but, it's pretty much like the whole Forza 2 thing (PR damage control), as time goes on the difference will become more and more apparent.
I actually think Alone in the Dark 5 is looking better than this at the moment, obviously early screens and things will change, but right now it's not looking very good to me.
I would have much prefered to see a next gen Jak and Daxter than this.
Hopefully they do obtain the 90% as the trailer is quite impressive. (but i will believe it when i see it)
Oh, and the bolded statement is hilarious. The ex Naughty Dog said the same thing regarding the so called power of the Cell. lol
Downgrade am confirmed.
Wii60!
"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."
-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)
Since 7012 DaysI was with you until you said the Tomb Raider Legend was comparable, now that's just funny. Not only is TR not very impressive, but it's got a terrible framerate on top of that. The character model in Uncharted alone has more detail than most of the characters in Tomb Raider Legend combined.
Uncharted is probably going to look drop dead awesome, but don't let that stop you.
Since 6748 Days
Since 6895 DaysI would say TR Legends could give it a run for its money in that state.. *pics above*
(The thing with TR:L though is that it was a port, as i said above I expect the Next TR to look just as good if not better than this)
It's certainly not a huge leap from TR:L though.
It doesn't look like they are using HDR in this game, or in the screens above, the lighting is horrible.
Marumaro for the WIN !!
Since 7012 DaysI wouldn't assume this was a [not so] stealthy troll if it weren't for the fact that we've already discussed the "downgrade" in another thread. If the point of this thread isn't to take shots at a Sony first party developer for an apparent downgrade, than I don't know what the point is exactly.
Does it looks worse than the [pre-rendered] video? Yes. Did they say it was real time? Yes. ZOMG LIES!!! now can we move on? Or do I have to sell my PS3 and jump on the Wii60 bandwagon first?
You could have atleast made some witty graphic pointing out the 2D foliage in the background--that's a way bigger eyesore than any of the downgraded shaders.
Since 6956 Daysthey should never release target markers, it only lets people down and makes the devs feel bad :(
My comments on this game/machine been good or bad does not mean i like/hate the machine i am not a fan nor a hater, just i have a opinion and wish to share it.
Since 6895 DaysI really duno what the big deal about the Wii is to be honest, Granted i have yet to play one, but there doesn't seem to much to it, other than a nifty controller, I suppose that the point though.
Anyways back on topic, I agree with what you are saying Grift, but TR:L wasn't developed with teh 360 in mind as you so clearly pointed out. :)
Marumaro for the WIN !!
Since 7012 Days
Since 6724 DaysI was with you until you said the Tomb Raider Legend was comparable, now that's just funny. Not only is TR not very impressive, but it's got a terrible framerate on top of that. The character model in Uncharted alone has more detail than most of the characters in Tomb Raider Legend combined.
Uncharted is probably going to look drop dead awesome, but don't let that stop you.
Open your damn eyes, the game shown at last years E3 was a pre-render and them saying that the game looks 90% of the CG trailer is complete BS.
And, yes it is comparable to Tomb Raider Legend, and its funny because TR Legend is prot:
I would say TR Legends could give it a run for its money in that state.. *pics above*
(The thing with TR:L though is that it was a port, as i said above I expect the Next TR to look just as good if not better than this)
It's certainly not a huge leap from TR:L though.
It doesn't look like they are using HDR in this game, or in the screens above, the lighting is horrible.
Wii60!
"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."
-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)
Since 6748 Days
Since 6883 Days-- For everyone who has me in their friendlist on xbox-live: I sold my 360 so you can delete me in your friendlist. --