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Since 6930 Days

I just read the eurogamer review and it sums up what I feel about the game completely especially the end part

GRAW 2 is unquestionably a better game than last year's version in almost every respect, but will inevitably suffer in some people's eyes by 'merely' consolidating what was already on offer. It's apparent very early on that Ubisoft decided to stick with the same acclaimed formula, and make a more accessible version of what everyone already liked. In itself, that's fine, but Ubisoft has historically approached 'expansion' sequels to previous Ghost Recon (and Rainbow Six) console games by pricing them accordingly. Anyone who remembers Island Thunder and Summit Strike will remember that they, too, were better than their parent games, and put out at a sensible price. If Ubisoft was brave enough to admit that GRAW 2 is the same kind of offering, we'd insist that it was a must-have game for any strategic shooter fan; especially for those of you who spend a lot of time online. As a full-priced offering, though, the goal posts have moved, and it's hard not to feel a little short changed by the short-lived single player campaign and how similar the whole thing feels. In many ways, GRAW 2 is the classic quick-fire sequel - short on new ideas, but big on polishing what we know and love. But these days, isn't that what people want?

And the comment about the lack of any personality of Clancy Games

Perhaps predictably, Ubisoft still hasn't really nailed the narrative side of the game to any great degree. It does a sterling job of seamlessly integrating the mission briefings into flythroughs, and patching video feed updates to your cross com, but there's still no sense of actually caring about the characters or the purpose of your missions. Once and for all, Ubi needs to go that final mile to really get under the skin of the players, and breathe life into the team you're in command of. From there we might start actually giving a toss about the cause we're fighting for, rather than seeing each Ghost Recon campaign as a series of anonymous shoot-outs. It's a small point, but these Tom Clancy games are crying out for an injection of personality.

The Best thing anyone has said about the game so far! and absolutely why I dont feel like investing on the game.

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I just read the eurogamer review and it sums up what I feel about the game completely especially the end part

[quote]GRAW 2 is unquestionably a better game than last year's version in almost every respect, but will inevitably suffer in some people's eyes by 'merely' consolidating what was already on offer. It's apparent very early on that Ubisoft decided to stick with the same acclaimed formula, and make a more accessible version of what everyone already liked. In itself, that's fine, but Ubisoft has historically approached 'expansion' sequels to previous Ghost Recon (and Rainbow Six) console games by pricing them accordingly. Anyone who remembers Island Thunder and Summit Strike will remember that they, too, were better than their parent games, and put out at a sensible price. If Ubisoft was brave enough to admit that GRAW 2 is the same kind of offering, we'd insist that it was a must-have game for any strategic shooter fan; especially for those of you who spend a lot of time online. As a full-priced offering, though, the goal posts have moved, and it's hard not to feel a little short changed by the short-lived single player campaign and how similar the whole thing feels. In many ways, GRAW 2 is the classic quick-fire sequel - short on new ideas, but big on polishing what we know and love. But these days, isn't that what people want?[/quote]

And the comment about the lack of any personality of Clancy Games

[quote]Perhaps predictably, Ubisoft still hasn't really nailed the narrative side of the game to any great degree. It does a sterling job of seamlessly integrating the mission briefings into flythroughs, and patching video feed updates to your cross com, but there's still no sense of actually caring about the characters or the purpose of your missions. Once and for all, Ubi needs to go that final mile to really get under the skin of the players, and breathe life into the team you're in command of. From there we might start actually giving a toss about the cause we're fighting for, rather than seeing each Ghost Recon campaign as a series of anonymous shoot-outs. It's a small point, but these Tom Clancy games are crying out for an injection of personality.[/quote]

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Jin187

Since 6744 Days

I got my GRAW 2 yesterday, i think i'm on act 2, and i have to say its great so far, its alot more epic than the last one, and the explosions/smoke/lighting effects are the best i've ever seen in a game on any platform, its visually jaw dropping, i'm very impressed so far.

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palamede

Since 6754 Days

It's extremely good, new cross com really upgrades the gameplay (better team management). The game does not look as good as Gears, but I'd say it's on par due to fx and environments size.
Only issue : too easy !
I haven't been able to try the mp but my friends told me it's awesome.
A must buy for people who liked GRAW1, according to me.

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Bingham67

Since 6617 Days

GRAW 2 is much better then the first one imo better graphics explosions are awesome alot of neat touches. The story was good not so good at times though and some good missions and some not so good. But the one thing that let me down is its as short as Gears of War i completed the game day i got it must of been 8 hours worth of gameplay and Elevated Risk (top difficulty) was hardly challenging until Act 3.

So overall enjoyable but i would much prefer to have more Storyline in the game i want to be playing a few days not one sitting.

And multiplayer Co Op Elimination Firefight and Helicopter takedown is great fun playing with my friend. Basically we had to go agaisnt 50 men then there was Helicopters in sky also and you can do this on any map. How it works with Helicopters is they come out and get harder to it goes 1 heli, 2,3,4 making it harder when you blow first one 2 helis come and when you kileld them 3 helis until but you get an Apache really tense gameplay great fun. My only complaint on this mode why is there no stinger missiles you have Bazooka kind of gun but you have to aim to get direct hit which is so annoying especially agaisnt Apache kind of helicopter.

Overall quality game i give it 8/10

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GRAW 2 is much better then the first one imo better graphics explosions are awesome alot of neat touches. The story was good not so good at times though and some good missions and some not so good. But the one thing that let me down is its as short as Gears of War i completed the game day i got it must of been 8 hours worth of gameplay and Elevated Risk (top difficulty) was hardly challenging until Act 3.

So overall enjoyable but i would much prefer to have more Storyline in the game i want to be playing a few days not one sitting.

And multiplayer Co Op Elimination Firefight and Helicopter takedown is great fun playing with my friend. Basically we had to go agaisnt 50 men then there was Helicopters in sky also and you can do this on any map. How it works with Helicopters is they come out and get harder to it goes 1 heli, 2,3,4 making it harder when you blow first one 2 helis come and when you kileld them 3 helis until but you get an Apache really tense gameplay great fun. My only complaint on this mode why is there no stinger missiles you have Bazooka kind of gun but you have to aim to get direct hit which is so annoying especially agaisnt Apache kind of helicopter.

Overall quality game i give it 8/10

n3ro

Since 6695 Days

How long does gameplay take ? If it's worth the money then it should be over 15 hours.

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Bingham67

Since 6617 Days

As i said took me 8 hours singleplayer on top difficulty thought it was very short only 3 Acts quite dissapointed on size of story tbh. But multiplayer is where this game is plus all the good effects updated graphics worth a purchase imo. :)

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lukasblue

Since 6747 Days

Posted by alimokrane

I just read the eurogamer review and it sums up what I feel about the game completely especially the end part

GRAW 2 is unquestionably a better game than last year's version in almost every respect, but will inevitably suffer in some people's eyes by 'merely' consolidating what was already on offer. It's apparent very early on that Ubisoft decided to stick with the same acclaimed formula, and make a more accessible version of what everyone already liked. In itself, that's fine, but Ubisoft has historically approached 'expansion' sequels to previous Ghost Recon (and Rainbow Six) console games by pricing them accordingly. Anyone who remembers Island Thunder and Summit Strike will remember that they, too, were better than their parent games, and put out at a sensible price. If Ubisoft was brave enough to admit that GRAW 2 is the same kind of offering, we'd insist that it was a must-have game for any strategic shooter fan; especially for those of you who spend a lot of time online. As a full-priced offering, though, the goal posts have moved, and it's hard not to feel a little short changed by the short-lived single player campaign and how similar the whole thing feels. In many ways, GRAW 2 is the classic quick-fire sequel - short on new ideas, but big on polishing what we know and love. But these days, isn't that what people want?

And the comment about the lack of any personality of Clancy Games

Perhaps predictably, Ubisoft still hasn't really nailed the narrative side of the game to any great degree. It does a sterling job of seamlessly integrating the mission briefings into flythroughs, and patching video feed updates to your cross com, but there's still no sense of actually caring about the characters or the purpose of your missions. Once and for all, Ubi needs to go that final mile to really get under the skin of the players, and breathe life into the team you're in command of. From there we might start actually giving a toss about the cause we're fighting for, rather than seeing each Ghost Recon campaign as a series of anonymous shoot-outs. It's a small point, but these Tom Clancy games are crying out for an injection of personality.

The Best thing anyone has said about the game so far! and absolutely why I dont feel like investing on the game.

You are joking! Eurogamer gave 7 to Graw1 (the lowest grade from any site). They know s`t!!!

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[quote=alimokrane]I just read the eurogamer review and it sums up what I feel about the game completely especially the end part

[quote]GRAW 2 is unquestionably a better game than last year's version in almost every respect, but will inevitably suffer in some people's eyes by 'merely' consolidating what was already on offer. It's apparent very early on that Ubisoft decided to stick with the same acclaimed formula, and make a more accessible version of what everyone already liked. In itself, that's fine, but Ubisoft has historically approached 'expansion' sequels to previous Ghost Recon (and Rainbow Six) console games by pricing them accordingly. Anyone who remembers Island Thunder and Summit Strike will remember that they, too, were better than their parent games, and put out at a sensible price. If Ubisoft was brave enough to admit that GRAW 2 is the same kind of offering, we'd insist that it was a must-have game for any strategic shooter fan; especially for those of you who spend a lot of time online. As a full-priced offering, though, the goal posts have moved, and it's hard not to feel a little short changed by the short-lived single player campaign and how similar the whole thing feels. In many ways, GRAW 2 is the classic quick-fire sequel - short on new ideas, but big on polishing what we know and love. But these days, isn't that what people want?[/quote]

And the comment about the lack of any personality of Clancy Games

[quote]Perhaps predictably, Ubisoft still hasn't really nailed the narrative side of the game to any great degree. It does a sterling job of seamlessly integrating the mission briefings into flythroughs, and patching video feed updates to your cross com, but there's still no sense of actually caring about the characters or the purpose of your missions. Once and for all, Ubi needs to go that final mile to really get under the skin of the players, and breathe life into the team you're in command of. From there we might start actually giving a toss about the cause we're fighting for, rather than seeing each Ghost Recon campaign as a series of anonymous shoot-outs. It's a small point, but these Tom Clancy games are crying out for an injection of personality.[/quote]

The Best thing anyone has said about the game so far! and absolutely why I dont feel like investing on the game.[/quote]

You are joking! Eurogamer gave 7 to Graw1 (the lowest grade from any site). They know s`t!!!

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alimokrane

Since 6930 Days

Posted by lukasblue

You are joking! Eurogamer gave 7 to Graw1 (the lowest grade from any site). They know s`t!!!

Well that's your problem. I personally dont care about the Score of any review. Sure it is representative of the opinion but reading the review is way, way more important and if things were to change for the better for the gaming industry, I personally would prefer if they would drop the scoring completely and focus on writing good reviews instead. This is why I like eurogamer & Edge and trust their reviews.

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FireWire

Since 7000 Days

I've been playing this game for 2 days straight:
I'm hooked!

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Phaethon360

Since 6846 Days

My friend has just gotten the game is Singleplayer Master already. All SP achievements complete. I like it, just not as much as I enjoyed GRAW1. GRAW1 came at just the right time. I had no new 360 shooters, and there wasn't anything else I was interested in.

GRAW2 was an impulse buy, and I've only made it through the tutorial. Going to go through it on elevated my first run through. Seems like the right thing to do :).

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anm8rjp

Since 7697 Days

The magazine reviews I've read are pretty accurate. GRAW 1.5 is more like it. Although don't let that disuade you if you liked the First GRAW. This version is more like GRIT was to GRAW, or GR2 Summit Strike was to GR2. It should have been Called GRAW:Insert title here.

It is basically the game that the developers would have liked to release if they had not been pressured by the bean counters to get GRAW1 out, after it didn't make the 360 launch.

Its polished graphically, has solid single player. The multiplayer maps are nice, better than GR1 I think. And it has a compass!

If you are a Tom Clancy GR fan, it is a must buy. I'm enjoying it. Not a big step over GRAW1 though.

My biggest complaint on GRAW2 and GRAW1, why make really 2 seperate games. The controls are different for using cover in single player and multi. The graphics engine is downgraded for multiplayer, and 2 different game studios developed GRAW2. Ubisoft Paris for single, and Red Storm for Multiplayer. Why? Isn't it possible given GOW, to use the Graphics Engine from singleplayer in multiplayer? I've never seen an interview ask any GRAW developer this question.

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The magazine reviews I've read are pretty accurate.  GRAW 1.5 is more like it.  Although don't let that disuade you if you liked the First GRAW.  This version is more like GRIT was to GRAW, or GR2 Summit Strike was to GR2.  It should have been Called GRAW:Insert title here.

It is basically the game that the developers would have liked to release if they had not been pressured by the bean counters to get GRAW1 out, after it didn't make the 360 launch.

Its polished graphically, has solid single player.  The multiplayer maps are nice, better than GR1 I think.   And it has a compass!

If you are a Tom Clancy GR fan, it is a must buy.  I'm enjoying it.  Not a big step over GRAW1 though.

My biggest complaint on GRAW2 and GRAW1, why make really 2 seperate games.  The controls are different for using cover in single player and multi.  The graphics engine is downgraded for multiplayer, and 2 different game studios developed GRAW2.  Ubisoft Paris for single, and Red Storm for Multiplayer.  Why?  Isn't it possible given GOW, to use the Graphics Engine from singleplayer in multiplayer?  I've never seen an interview ask any GRAW developer this question.

GriftGFX

Since 7000 Days

Posted by lukasblue

You are joking! Eurogamer gave 7 to Graw1 (the lowest grade from any site). They know s`t!!!

For a launch game, GRAW was great..but considering some of the bugs people ran into..mixed with some of the games actual drawbacks (for me:the mp/sp split, lonewolf gameplay, lack of integrated co-op) I think a 7 is pretty fair if 5 is average on your scale.

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MrArgus

Since 6648 Days

I'll be skipping GRAW2, felt #1 was overrated and only bought because of lack of 360 games at the time. Now RB6V is the scrizit online. :)

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FireWire

Since 7000 Days

I've just finished the campaign and although it's shorter than GRAW1's campaign it's way more fun and intense...

There are atleast 10 moments when my jaw hit the floor from the amazing views/actions/levels you get to see in the campaign and in my opinion this game looks better than GoW...

everything looks amazing (except for the night vision that sucks big time) :D

I even got ranked number 43 on the world wide leader board based on my campaign score :D How cool is that...

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TheBeagle

Since 6605 Days

Im playing it on the medium setting and Its definatly easier than GRAW was. That moment in the training where it switches the time of day to a sunset is absolutely stunning. All in all Im enjoying the campaign more than that of the first game but as I said it feels easier and much shorter.

I havent really had a chance to get a good multiplayer game yet cause my friends dont have the game but the amount of maps plus the myriad of options means Il be playing this for a long time.

PS - One cool thing for fans of GRAW multiplayer is that you can download the map "Nowhere" and it has the redone lighting and everything.

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Optimusv2

Since 6892 Days

A good reason to take reviews for what their worth sometimes God of War 2 received a 7 from edge...

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FireWire

Since 7000 Days

Posted by TheBeagle

Im playing it on the medium setting and Its definatly easier than GRAW was. That moment in the training where it switches the time of day to a sunset is absolutely stunning. All in all Im enjoying the campaign more than that of the first game but as I said it feels easier and much shorter.

I havent really had a chance to get a good multiplayer game yet cause my friends dont have the game but the amount of maps plus the myriad of options means Il be playing this for a long time.

PS - One cool thing for fans of GRAW multiplayer is that you can download the map "Nowhere" and it has the redone lighting and everything.

Yeah i've finished it on the hardest setting.. It seems a bit easier than the previous GRAW but i enjoyed this campaign much more...

I really enjoy using all the new "support" vehicle's!

I also finished all the quick mission achievements this morning, now i'm going for all the secondary objectives ! although the campaign is short, the achievements give some meaning behind doing these mission a second time on the quick mission mode!

And btw if you want to do some multiplayer add me to your friendslist and i'll invite you to some games i'll be doing every evening with some friends...

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[quote=TheBeagle]Im playing it on the medium setting and Its definatly easier than GRAW was. That moment in the training where it switches the time of day to a sunset is absolutely stunning. All in all Im  enjoying the campaign more than that of the first game but as I said it feels easier and much shorter.

I havent really had a chance to get a good multiplayer game yet cause my friends dont have the game but the amount of maps plus the myriad of options means Il be playing this for a long time.

PS - One cool thing for fans of GRAW multiplayer is that you can download the map "Nowhere" and it has the redone lighting and everything.[/quote]

Yeah i've finished it on the hardest setting.. It seems a bit easier than the previous GRAW but i enjoyed this campaign much more...

I really enjoy using all the new "support" vehicle's!

I also finished all the quick mission achievements this morning, now i'm going for all the secondary objectives ! although the campaign is short, the achievements give some meaning behind doing these mission a second time on the quick mission mode!

And btw if you want to do some multiplayer add me to your friendslist and i'll invite you to some games i'll be doing every evening with some friends...

"You're being arrested for drunk driving."
"Drunk definitely, I don't know if you could call it driving."

TheBeagle

Since 6605 Days

I will do that. Yeah the campaign is definatly more refined and enjoyable. As one review I read said these tom clancy games need to nail a more involving storyline and characters that we can actually care about. If they bring this to the ghost recon franchise I believe it would be perfect.

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SimonM7

Since 7023 Days

While I don't neccessarily agree with EG all the time they're consistent in not giving a crap about hype and just scoring a game whatever they think it deserves. The 3 for Sonic the Hedgehog is why an 8 for Secret Rings actually MEANS something to me when I read it on there.

I'm prolly up there among the bigger critics of GRAW 1 after being scorned by its glitches and lacking AI, so maybe I'm having an easier time digesting a 7/10 for that, and likewise I don't think Gears is the 9.6 second coming of sexual intercourse that Jeff Gerstmann at Gamespot claimed, thus embracing the down to earth 8/10. But suffice to say I've had my fair share of disagreements with EG, and yet I still value their input more than many others precisely for that same reason.

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R0oK

Since 6968 Days

From what little I saw of the game, the single player looks more enjoyable this time around for sure. In multiplayer, I was impressed with the lighting. However, this game (maybe just in terrorist hunt) has some extremely bad FPS issues. I was watching someone do t-hunt on a dam level and he was probably getting ~5 frames per second at most. Er, the first one was smooth :( I also have some issues with how fast it looked like people were moving online, but I was drunk so maybe it was just me.

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FireWire

Since 7000 Days

Posted by R0oK

From what little I saw of the game, the single player looks more enjoyable this time around for sure. In multiplayer, I was impressed with the lighting. However, this game (maybe just in terrorist hunt) has some extremely bad FPS issues. I was watching someone do t-hunt on a dam level and he was probably getting ~5 frames per second at most. Er, the first one was smooth :( I also have some issues with how fast it looked like people were moving online, but I was drunk so maybe it was just me.

Well sometimes the FPS does drop in the multiplayer levels during online play but that's mostly when there's a hell lot of action going on and when someone throws alot of smoke!

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"You're being arrested for drunk driving."
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R0oK

Since 6968 Days

I guess there might have been around 10 t's close by, not sure about smoke though. I don't know though, anyone with the game can confirm... I won't be buying it anyways (<3 vegas too much).

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FireWire

Since 7000 Days

Posted by R0oK

I guess there might have been around 10 t's close by, not sure about smoke though. I don't know though, anyone with the game can confirm... I won't be buying it anyways (<3 vegas too much).

It doesn't drop with 10 t's close by :)
But it also could've been the lag... Because the gamemodes with the enemy AI suffers big time from lag if the hosts got a shitty connection....

But anyway this game is a beauty to me!

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R0oK

Since 6968 Days

He was playing by himself :o Glad people are diggin' it though. The first was a good game.

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FireWire

Since 7000 Days

Posted by R0oK

He was playing by himself :o Glad people are diggin' it though. The first was a good game.

Than i didn't say a thing ;)
Guess i'm a bit ignorant of the little imperfections because i'm digging this game :)
Seriously though if people didn't get GRAW1 because they were hesitating they should try GRAW2 instead :D

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"You're being arrested for drunk driving."
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