Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6904 Days
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23438.html

Definitely picking this thing up.

9 from gametrailers
9 from 1up
9 from teamxbox

Pretty much it looks and plays great and there aren't many complaints really.

Been waiting for a great football game and it appears this is definitely it.
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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 6858 Days
Me.
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Phaethon, the forum Spectre.

Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
Acert93
Since 6983 Days
Looking great and it is on my to get list.

As for the complaints, I must say, they have done a good job of addressing some of the core issues with the franchise and improved some of the features they have added over the years (superstar, hit stick, COOP play, etc). Big wins and should be great. I am excited about weapons personally. And 60fps? Oh yeah.

But as a Madden baller, let me list some of the irks that get to me, especially after the last 2 years being absolute TRASH. After 3 years of dev time I was expecting more in some areas, and seeing as Xbox gamers were doing some of this stuff I don't see why it shouldn't be in here. No online leagues... still? And while they improved the animation system -- finally some gang tackles and more broken tackles -- the mocap is still years behind 2K and the branching, while welcomed, seems to be jerky and the actual animations don't appear to have much weight (momentum), they instead jerk from one animation and transition into the next. Seeing a WR go up for a catch, get hit, and then morph into an animation that is odd and not in the right direction or right body parts being jerked around still looks poor.

And the announcing is horrible. They bought the ESPN license... for nothing! Just to take it away from 2K -- how trashy.

Anyhow, Madden 2008 will find a place next to my 2005, 2004, and 2003 editions (all the others are packed away). I like the changes, but on the other hand I feel they needed to do even more considering how much they took away for 2 straight years. 2006 and 2007 were some of the worse Maddens ever, worse than the Xbox and PS2 versions. Just adding back in missing features and a couple new twists doesn't gloss over some of the fundamental franchise issues like highlights, game announcers, superbowl rewards/story, online leagues, etc.
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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."

Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 6858 Days
Acert, by the time you get a 360, Madden 3008 will be out! Amirite?
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Phaethon, the forum Spectre.

Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
Acert93
Since 6983 Days
uRrite!

Ps- And John Madden will still be alive 0_o
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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7012 Days
PASS OR RUN?? PASS OR RUN??

I'll pass..
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kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
kenshin2418
Since 6988 Days
Posted by Acert93
uRrite!

Ps- And John Madden will still be alive 0_o
your precious Seahawks got nothing!

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all good things must come to an end

Inflatable
Inflatable
Since 7650 Days
Well, I'm not obviously.. I couldn't care less about American Football, just like most Americans I guess couldn't care less about a sport that the rest of the world calls Football..

I wonder how much games like PES, UEFA, and FIFA sell in the US compared to American Football games outside the US? Would be insteresting to know those numbers..

Btw, as a old-skool Ajax fan I'm also happy the whole NFL-Europe thing is over, so the Amsterdam Admirals as they were called are finally gone now.. They were good for nothing imho, only destroying the pitch in the Amsterdam Arena where Ajax has to play their games aswell.. So yeah, bye bye..

Ajax fans owning 'de Kuip' (stadium of our biggest oldtime rivals):
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=NYOcJoQ-QaU :D
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kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
kenshin2418
Since 6988 Days
Posted by Inflatable
Well, I'm not obviously.. I couldn't care less about American Football
and yet you somehow felt the urge to click in a (American)Football thread!





PLAY THE ANTHEM!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq2_YKQGE_U
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all good things must come to an end

Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 6858 Days
I prepared a pic for this thread, incase something like this were to occur. Gentlemen, please witness the secret project.

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Phaethon, the forum Spectre.

mkk316
mkk316
Since 6825 Days
Posted by kenshin2418
Hahahahahahaha, i love the part where Captain America's out of breath. Super soldier indeed...:P
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COD 4's pre-alpha stage looks better than most game's gone gold stage.

E3 2K7- best. e3. ever.

Saying you cant find animaton in Japan is like saying you cant find food in Italy. Its simply not true.

Heretic
Heretic
Since 6986 Days
America! FUCK YEAH!

i love that song haha

but yeah, american football sucks ass!

Go O-State Buckeyes!

HAHAHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9EKa8Go-SQ&NR=1
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Finish The Fight Sept. 25th

Halo 3 Bitches!!!

Beware, Heretic is on the prowl!!!

Inflatable
Inflatable
Since 7650 Days
I didn't say American Football sucks, I just said I couldn't care less about it.. And I clicked on this topic because I just wanted to say the Admirals are finally gone out of 'our' Stadium, which I'm obviously happy about, and to say I'm not gonna get Madden 08..

http://www.ajaxfotoside.net/0607thuis/psv/116.jpg

Red & White, as it should be!!
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raggnarok
raggnarok
Since 6344 Days
I'm a European but I must admit, I find American football quite an interesting game. I know the basic rules, watched couple games on TV and would consider to give it a try, but I wonder if Madden franchise is accessible to a person like me - who only knows basic rules of the game, or is it like for people who know this game in and out in real life.
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6895 Days
Well i find American football easier to watch than Football (ie TV), but I have never seen the point in playing it on a computer, I would sooner actually play the sport and get some excersise at the same time.

Sitting on your ass and playing a game of football surely defeats the object of the sport.. :P
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Marumaro for the WIN !!

endaround
Since 6589 Days
Not really. Football really only gets to be football when you can do the strategy which requires huge amounts of practice time. Its different from most sports that way. I'm not saying other sports don't have strategy, just not to the point where American style football does. Madden allows you to do that strategy which you can't do in any type of pick up game.

And thats where it might not really be helpful to people unfamiliar with football can have problems. While easy in Madden traditionally is so easy you can do whatever you want, it may not be helpful in actually understanding teh game.
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 6858 Days
Posted by Jollipop
Sitting on your ass and playing a game of football surely defeats the object of the sport.. :P
Football is ALL about sitting on your ass!
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Phaethon, the forum Spectre.

Sheps
Sheps
Since 6954 Days
Oh im definetly gunna get this game, Lemieux will be throwing pure bombs and my main man Barry Bonds is gunna be a all star running back when i get my hands on him! BOO-YAH!

But on a serious note i will be getting this game, and i swear to jebus all mighty if there is a Salary Cap on season mode, someones gunna get hurt!
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Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
Acert93
Since 6983 Days
http://www.easports.com/maddennfl/videos.jsp

Some of the new animation stuff in YouTube quality on EA's site. The GameTrailer's review showed that while gang tackling is an improvement, it still needs a lot of work. Seeing a runner slowed down and grabbed by 2 tacklers and then seeing all the other defenders around... falling down?!... instead of grabbing on and piling on/pushing looked just like normal, which isn't good. So an improvement, but still broken, just less so which is GREAT for gameplay as this was a really bad part of Madden. The blocking looks improved a bit too which is welcome news to me as I love to run.
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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."

kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
kenshin2418
Since 6988 Days
Posted by Acert93
The blocking looks improved a bit too which is welcome news to me as I love to run.
Shawn Alexander spamming confirmed! :p
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all good things must come to an end

Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
Acert93
Since 6983 Days
Posted by kenshin2418
Shawn Alexander spamming confirmed! :p
Not my favorite back, but yes, I have been playing with Seattle since the first Madden. Although I did enjoy playing with Detroit during the Sanders' years. I always thought those Dallas teams were a little unfair -- Emmit + unstoppable line.

Seattle over the last few years has been fun to play with, offensively, for me. A good OL (until last year), a star HB, a solid FB and decent pair of TEs allowed me to really grind the clock... and set up the pass. And although Seattle WRs are not the very best, they were adequate and Hasselbeck was a solid performer.

Personally, and I keep screaming this, they need a "control the clock" button. I hate 5 minute quarters because people feel cheated when you play "real football". I like to run. Ball control is a huge part of the game. A 10 play series can waste an entire 5 minute quarter. People hate that... but it is how the game is played "right".

Having a button to accelerate the clock and tick some time off would be great. Get my play selected and then chomp off 20 seconds really quick. This could justify 10, even 15 minutes, quarters. Then they could include the dynamic of people who go for fast-fast-fast play calling, no huddles, etc their players get more tired, make more mistakes, and are more prone to injuries (as the season progresses). So they can have the short term payoff of some quick strikes, but they also run the risk of their DEF being on the field waaay too long, losing OFF rhythm, and running their guys too much. 30 OFF plays in 1 quarter could kill a lot of linemen!

This dynamic of the series, as stands, allows for a lot of abuse, unrealistic gameplay, and a lot of disgruntled people who say you "cheese" because you run and try to control the clock. Mind you I don't try to run out all 10 minutes of a half -- that is lame due to the constraints -- but I don't have any qualms with an intentional 15 play drive where I eat up 4 or 5 minutes. Of course people don't like you if you do that.

Of course I hate it when people glitch, exploit, and use the broken mechanics of the game to get quick scores instead of playing the game as real football (my current hate in 2005 was the new coverage where you could audible to a line press, but you could rarely pass over the DBs new/better AI, and you would get guys doing nanos at the line and the realistic option, a quick toss over the DBs heads, doesn't work... grrr).

Football is pretty complex though in terms of strategy, and lives/dies on contact and how a game handles it, which games... don't. There probably will never be a perfect NFL game in terms of gameplay due to input limitations and simulation limitations. Madden and 2K both represent good takes on a quality gameplay model to immitate the core values.
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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."

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