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Since 6861 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

Here's another system that's definitely been tweaked. Jumping in COD4 is WAY better, so you should try doing it more often Phaethon. No, not to dolphin dive or bunny hop--but because you can now climb up much larger objects.. or at least it certainly seems so. You can also pull yourself up an object mid jump--hitting it below the edge and pressing jump will force a climb straight from that position.

Good stuff! Okay must sleep. Brain now mush.

I meant jump as in, jump. I use it to climb stuff, but not as a jump function. There was a cool part last night where I sprinted and leaped out of the window on Vacant and immediately shot down a helicopter with my grenade launcher.

And I need moar betas! I'm going to do nothing but play this. PLAY THIS.

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Acert93

Since 6987 Days

That was a nice report Grift. Long, detailed, and exciting :)

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GriftGFX

Since 7016 Days

Posted by Phaethon360

I meant jump as in, jump. I use it to climb stuff, but not as a jump function.

And I need moar betas! I'm going to do nothing but play this. PLAY THIS.

Oh.. well I still jump.. just like, to duck and cover from an enemy or try to get away from a frag grenade. But generally speaking jumping isn't as quick as it is in some other games. This is good a good thing. I was actually a bit of a fan of dolphin diving in BF, and I bunny hop quite a bit in Halo.. but I'm glad they've managed to craft a movement system in Call of Duty that avoids those common pitfalls without feeling too rigid.

Posted by Acert93

That was a nice report Grift. Long, detailed, and exciting :)

That's uhm, what she said! (sorry)

One more thing: I hate RPG's. Too many people seem to think they're suitable indoor weapons and just wind up killing themselves quite a bit. I have no idea why someone would pick the RPG over the other explosives available. Sure if you use the noob tube you don't get a sight or a suppressor, but there is always C4 and the extra special nades. I guess I get killed with it (RPG) enough so it must not be that bad, I just find that it's pretty unreliable. M203 FTW!

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[quote=Phaethon360]

I meant jump as in, jump. I use it to climb stuff, but not as a jump function.

And I need moar betas! I'm going to do nothing but play this. PLAY THIS.[/quote]

Oh.. well I still jump.. just like, to duck and cover from an enemy or try to get away from a frag grenade.  But generally speaking jumping isn't as quick as it is in some other games.  This is good a good thing.  I was actually a bit of a fan of dolphin diving in BF, and I bunny hop quite a bit in Halo.. but I'm glad they've managed to craft a movement system in Call of Duty that avoids those common pitfalls without feeling too rigid.

[quote=Acert93]That was a nice report Grift. Long, detailed, and exciting :)[/quote]

That's uhm, what she said! (sorry)

One more thing: I hate RPG's.  Too many people seem to think they're suitable indoor weapons and just wind up killing themselves quite a bit.  I have no idea why someone would pick the RPG over the other explosives available.  Sure if you use the noob tube you don't get a sight or a suppressor, but there is always C4 and the extra special nades.  I guess I get killed with it (RPG) enough so it must not be that bad,  I just find that it's pretty unreliable.  M203 FTW!

LEBATO

Since 7138 Days

I FINALLY got my code!!!! Mwhahahah.........

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deftangel

Since 6884 Days

Microsoft have dropped the 24 hour banhammer on those using the profile glitch ( which they've now fixed)

http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EElApVupyu...

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FireWire

Since 7016 Days

Posted by deftangel

Microsoft have dropped the 24 hour banhammer on those using the profile glitch ( which they've now fixed)

http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EElApVupyu...

And so it should be..... I have to fucking wait so everyone in europe has to fucking wait :)

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TheBeagle

Since 6621 Days

Thats good to hear.

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TheBeagle

Since 6621 Days

Sorry for double post. UK gamers go here - http://gamers.eurogamer.net/giveaways.php?id=8

I dunno why I said UK. It wont stop anyone outside of it going there.

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XAL

Since 7009 Days

Level cap raised to lvl 16 tomorrow - which enables clan prefixes among other things.

I wonder if the experienced will automatically level you up or if you have to earn the 5 levels after it gets updated.

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LEBATO

Since 7138 Days

Well, I played it today. Really good game, I don't have a lot to complain about.

Things I don't like is that whenever I play on that map with a big warehouse in the middle of the map, I ALWAYS respawn on the same place, and I really hate it. Well, not always, but easily 90% of the time, it gets tiring really.

I'm getting a bit better, I sucked the first few times. The last three or so matches I was in 3rd place though :D

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GriftGFX

Since 7016 Days

I'm pretty good, generally speaking.. but as Phaethon witnessed last night.. we got the ass kicking of the century. I'm still sore. I'm glad they raised the level cap today but I wish they went higher.. the only other guns in the beta that I really want to check out are the G3 and the SVD. Looks like I'll have to wait a while on both.

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Phaethon360

Since 6861 Days

I blame WiiFit, and Vehemence...but yea it was a team failure. He dropped the bomb, and we dropped the soap.

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LEBATO

Since 7138 Days

Posted by Phaethon360

I blame WiiFit, and Vehemence...but yea it was a team failure. He dropped the bomb, and we dropped the soap.

Is soap one of the perks?

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Phaethon360

Since 6861 Days

Posted by LEBATO

Is soap one of the perks?

:|

It definitely wasn't a perk for us last night...

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GriftGFX

Since 7016 Days

Posted by Phaethon360

:|

It definitely wasn't a perk for us last night...

Hey! That was like.. one game. We had some really nice games last night, especially against that last team which represented a pretty even playing field for us. Traded a lot of victories and losses with them. I thought it was funny when those guys called us all trash because I use the M203 a lot.. they can suck it! If you die w/o discharging those grenades you're wasting them!

They really need to go ahead and raise the level cap into the 20's now. Raising it to 16 was a bit of a joke/tease.. there's basically nothing new for me to unlock at 16 as I'm not very interested in the SMG's. They need to unlock the G3 and SVD for me, and perhaps some perks that I'd actually use.

I'm afraid of claymores.. but at least they'll put the bomb squad perk to good use.

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bholliday

Since 6471 Days

Has anyone from the UK gotten their beta tokens yet ?

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TheBeagle

Since 6621 Days

Posted by bholliday

Has anyone from the UK gotten their beta tokens yet ?

Nope. Im hoping to get mine tomorrow as I was in the first thousand to sign up on Eurogamer aswell as pre-ordering the game at GAME. They are sending them out weekly supposedly though so I'm trying not to get my hopes up.

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LEBATO

Since 7138 Days

So what do you people NOT like and think should be fixed or made better?

For me:

1) Why does adding a scope to my AK47 reduces its accuracy?!? Excuse me but WTF? I know the reason to this is simply to balance the playing field, but when using an AK (which is not that accurate according to them to begin with), I add a scope and the accuracy is CUT IN HALF? Come on. Changing the weapon's physics is bad to start with, but doing it so severely is just too much.

2) Rocket launcher is just about useless. They have to increase the damage on this thing. You basically have to hit the enemy to kill them. Again, it may be a balance thing, but don't over exaggerate to incredibly unrealistic situations.

3) The level with the warehouse in the middle is kind of messy, especially on free-for-all games. You can get shot from ANYWHERE in this map, and spawn points are too often misplaced. In 12 player games you often spawn right next to someone. I doubt this one will be "fixed" so I suppose veto will do.

That's all I can think of for now.

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So what do you people NOT like and think should be fixed or made better?

For me:

1)  Why does adding a scope to my AK47 reduces its accuracy?!?  Excuse me but WTF?  I know the reason to this is simply to balance the playing field, but when using an AK (which is not that accurate according to them to begin with), I add a scope and the accuracy is CUT IN HALF?  Come on.  Changing the weapon's physics is bad to start with, but doing it so severely is just too much.

2)  Rocket launcher is just about useless.  They have to increase the damage on this thing.  You basically have to hit the enemy to kill them.  Again, it may be a balance thing, but don't over exaggerate to incredibly unrealistic situations.

3)  The level with the warehouse in the middle is kind of messy, especially on free-for-all games.  You can get shot from ANYWHERE in this map, and spawn points are too often misplaced.  In 12 player games you often spawn right next to someone.  I doubt this one will be "fixed" so I suppose veto will do.

That's all I can think of for now.

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anm8rjp

Since 7713 Days

Team Tactical is the way to go. You get some Team Deathmatch, but the other half of the time is Search and destroy, so it is much slower paced, and the biggest rooms are only 6, 3 vs. 3. So even deathmatch is slower and more strategic and thought out.

You've gotta try it out. Games take longer to find, but definitely worth it, IMO.

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GriftGFX

Since 7016 Days

Posted by LEBATO

1) Why does adding a scope to my AK47 reduces its accuracy?!? Excuse me but WTF? I know the reason to this is simply to balance the playing field, but when using an AK (which is not that accurate according to them to begin with), I add a scope and the accuracy is CUT IN HALF? Come on. Changing the weapon's physics is bad to start with, but doing it so severely is just too much.

2) Rocket launcher is just about useless. They have to increase the damage on this thing. You basically have to hit the enemy to kill them. Again, it may be a balance thing, but don't over exaggerate to incredibly unrealistic situations.

3) The level with the warehouse in the middle is kind of messy, especially on free-for-all games. You can get shot from ANYWHERE in this map, and spawn points are too often misplaced. In 12 player games you often spawn right next to someone. I doubt this one will be "fixed" so I suppose veto will do.

That's all I can think of for now.

1) Are you sure? Like, in the stats menu the accuracy goes down on the AK? I've seen plenty of people using the AK-47 with the ACOG scope and they seem fairly accurate.. or at least as accurate as the AK is already. The thing has ridiculous recoil. Stick with the M16 or M4 if you're looking for an accurate assault rifle. I guess they're doing this to balance out the fact that the AK does a ridiculous amount of damage and is fully automatic.. still this is an understandable concern.

2) God, no. The RPG sucks, but it should primarily be used against the Helo anyway. I can't stand the number of people who attempt to use this thing in doors. It's as unreliable as it should be. If you really want to use an explosive against infantry use the M203.

3) Vacant rules. It's my favorite map in the beta. Free for all? That's your problem, play team deathmatch or objective types. I'm only worried about how Vacant will work on the PC with 32+ players.. actually I'm worried about how ANY of these maps will work with as many as 32 players. It's going to be CHAOS.

What would I like to see change? Just fix the party system bugs really.. otherwise.. so far so good. It's impossible to make judgment calls on balance when we're not seeing even half of what will eventually be available in the retail game. One thing I would love to see is if there's an F2000 and a G36 in the final version.. that would be nice.

If there's one weapon that I think is a tad on the annoying side thus far it's the M21 sniper rifle, but it's not really unbalanced. It's just a pain in the ass to see someone basically resort to spray and pray with a sniper rifle and get you down.

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[quote=LEBATO]1)  Why does adding a scope to my AK47 reduces its accuracy?!?  Excuse me but WTF?  I know the reason to this is simply to balance the playing field, but when using an AK (which is not that accurate according to them to begin with), I add a scope and the accuracy is CUT IN HALF?  Come on.  Changing the weapon's physics is bad to start with, but doing it so severely is just too much.

2)  Rocket launcher is just about useless.  They have to increase the damage on this thing.  You basically have to hit the enemy to kill them.  Again, it may be a balance thing, but don't over exaggerate to incredibly unrealistic situations.

3)  The level with the warehouse in the middle is kind of messy, especially on free-for-all games.  You can get shot from ANYWHERE in this map, and spawn points are too often misplaced.  In 12 player games you often spawn right next to someone.  I doubt this one will be "fixed" so I suppose veto will do.

That's all I can think of for now.[/quote]

1) Are you sure?  Like, in the stats menu the accuracy goes down on the AK?  I've seen plenty of people using the AK-47 with the ACOG scope and they seem fairly accurate.. or at least as accurate as the AK is already.  The thing has ridiculous recoil.  Stick with the M16 or M4 if you're looking for an accurate assault rifle.  I guess they're doing this to balance out the fact that the AK does a ridiculous amount of damage and is fully automatic.. still this is an understandable concern.

2) God, no.  The RPG sucks, but it should primarily be used against the Helo anyway.  I can't stand the number of people who attempt to use this thing in doors.  It's as unreliable as [i]it should be[/i].  If you really want to use an explosive against infantry use the M203.

3) Vacant rules.  It's my favorite map in the beta.  Free for all?  That's your problem, play team deathmatch or objective types.  I'm only worried about how Vacant will work on the PC with 32+ players.. actually I'm worried about how ANY of these maps will work with as many as 32 players.  It's going to be CHAOS.

What would I like to see change?  Just fix the party system bugs really.. otherwise.. so far so good.  It's impossible to make judgment calls on balance when we're not seeing even half of what will eventually be available in the retail game.  One thing I would love to see is if there's an F2000 and a G36 in the final version.. that would be nice.

If there's one weapon that I think is a tad on the annoying side thus far it's the M21 sniper rifle, but it's not really unbalanced.  It's just a pain in the ass to see someone basically resort to spray and pray with a sniper rifle and get you down.

LEBATO

Since 7138 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

1) Are you sure?

Yeah, the stats go down, the accuracy is cut in half.

2) God, no.

Come on, they are telling me a rocket landing a few feet besides me is not going to kill me? That's ridiculous, and I don't see a problem with people using the rocket launcher indoors, it takes ages to load and it's only two rockets, why downgraded even more and make it useless?

If there's no heli there is no use for it.

3) Vacant rules.

Meh, it's not just free for all, I said that as the best example of how this map doesn't work. I don't like it anyways, but I suppose that's up to opinion.

If there's one weapon that I think is a tad on the annoying side thus far it's the M21 sniper rifle, but it's not really unbalanced. It's just a pain in the ass to see someone basically resort to spray and pray with a sniper rifle and get you down.

I somewhat agree. But like you said it's not unbalanced. That thing shakes a lot, even with the steady aim perk, so it's all right.

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[quote=GriftGFX]

1) Are you sure?
[/quote]
Yeah, the stats go down, the accuracy is cut in half.  
[quote]
2) God, no.  
[/quote]

Come on, they are telling me a rocket landing a few feet besides me is not going to kill me?  That's ridiculous, and I don't see a problem with people using the rocket launcher indoors, it takes ages to load and it's only two rockets, why downgraded even more and make it useless?

If there's no heli there is no use for it.

[quote]
3) Vacant rules.  
[/quote]
Meh, it's not just free for all, I said that as the best example of how this map doesn't work.  I don't like it anyways, but I suppose that's up to opinion.

[quote]
If there's one weapon that I think is a tad on the annoying side thus far it's the M21 sniper rifle, but it's not really unbalanced.  It's just a pain in the ass to see someone basically resort to spray and pray with a sniper rifle and get you down.[/quote]
I somewhat agree.  But like you said it's not unbalanced.  That thing shakes a lot, even with the steady aim perk, so it's all right.

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mt_sabao

Since 6447 Days

Posted by LEBATO

[…]

3) The level with the warehouse in the middle is kind of messy, especially on free-for-all games. You can get shot from ANYWHERE in this map, and spawn points are too often misplaced. In 12 player games you often spawn right next to someone. I doubt this one will be "fixed" so I suppose veto will do.

Agree with you on that. Love the other two maps, but Vacant just sucks. Even in team deathmatch, it's just running around, random encounters, and who sees who first wins. No levels, no nothing. Just a square building and some divisions, no strategy possible.

Just have to admit that i have some fun spotting the enemy, after he shoots and shows up as a red dot on the map, on the other side of the wall where i am standing, and then when i have deep impact shooting the crap to the wall, and getting some kills like this, of guys on the other side.
Didn't know this worked until i actually got a kill, super cool!
.......
Also, im loving the knife kills. Damn, it really feels (not that i ever tried lol) real, like the control vibrating and a bit of camera shaking. Top!

Would love to see something like there's in BF2142, where everytime you knife someone you get his dogtag. That's major humiliation, and then you could see a list of people you knifed. that would be cool.

Yeah, and the RPG is a bit strange. I find it odd that people resort to use it indoors. That thing should have a huge blast radius, should kill the shooter if he's close to the victim as well (and no points for him). It just feels weird and unrealistic.

Something that i am a bit concerned with is this thing with the points (+10) coming out on screen is that it sort of makes the Last Stand perk a bit useless. In the sense that usually people unload a charger in the other player until they see the +10 popping up, and not when they see him falling to the ground. I very rarely got a change to shoot when i Last Stand, being that there's always a couple of rounds more coming from the enemy.
Although i admit i was killed once or twice by someone last standing, when they fell and i lost them from my sight, only to find out that they were pistol shooting at me from the ground...

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[quote=LEBATO][…]

3)  The level with the warehouse in the middle is kind of messy, especially on free-for-all games.  You can get shot from ANYWHERE in this map, and spawn points are too often misplaced.  In 12 player games you often spawn right next to someone.  I doubt this one will be "fixed" so I suppose veto will do.[/quote]

Agree with you on that. Love the other two maps, but Vacant just sucks. Even in team deathmatch, it's just running around, random encounters, and who sees who first wins. No levels, no nothing. Just a square building and some divisions, no strategy possible.

Just have to admit that i have some fun spotting the enemy, after he shoots and shows up as a red dot on the map, on the other side of the wall where i am standing, and then when i have deep impact shooting the crap to the wall, and getting some kills like this, of guys on the other side.
Didn't know this worked until i actually got a kill, super cool!
.......
Also, im loving the knife kills. Damn, it really feels (not that i ever tried lol) real, like the control vibrating and a bit of camera shaking. Top!

Would love to see something like there's in BF2142, where everytime you knife someone you get his dogtag. That's major humiliation, and then you could see a list of people you knifed. that would be cool.

Yeah, and the RPG is a bit strange. I find it odd that people resort to use it indoors. That thing should have a huge blast radius, should kill the shooter if he's close to the victim as well (and no points for him). It just feels weird and unrealistic.

Something that i am a bit concerned with is this thing with the points (+10) coming out on screen is that it sort of makes the Last Stand perk a bit useless. In the sense that usually people unload a charger in the other player until they see the +10 popping up, and not when they see him falling to the ground. I very rarely got a change to shoot when i Last Stand, being that there's always a couple of rounds more coming from the enemy.
Although i admit i was killed once or twice by someone last standing, when they fell and i lost them from my sight, only to find out that they were pistol shooting at me from the ground...

Inflatable

Since 7654 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

3) Vacant rules. It's my favorite map in the beta. Free for all? That's your problem, play team deathmatch or objective types. I'm only worried about how Vacant will work on the PC with 32+ players.. actually I'm worried about how ANY of these maps will work with as many as 32 players. It's going to be CHAOS.

I presume the PC-version maps will be bigger..?

Posted by mt_sabao

Just have to admit that i have some fun spotting the enemy, after he shoots and shows up as a red dot on the map, on the other side of the wall where i am standing, and then when i have deep impact shooting the crap to the wall, and getting some kills like this, of guys on the other side.
Didn't know this worked until i actually got a kill, super cool!

Counterstrike wallbanging ftw!

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rob230

Since 6425 Days

5pm start time (or so lots of people think) for the UK beta today.

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Since 7016 Days

Posted by rob230

5pm start time (or so lots of people think) for the UK beta today.

5PM GMT?
5PM GMT+9 ?

Ever heard of time zones

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