Don't worry jolli I definetly don't think you are a sony fanboy. If I were to ever accuse ya of anything I'd say you are unfairly biased against non japanese games and against japanese games that don't appeal to your likes of japanese inspired art design. Thats not a bad thing because I ALSO like japanese games more than anything else, but I'm a bit more open to games like gears of war, halo, mass effect and others for one.

I also admit I've shown bias many times in favor of the 360 over the ps3 why? Because I just feel the 360 has more games I'm interested which is why I was more bias in favor of the ps2 over the original xbox due to the games despite some of the xbox's really good titles.

Keep in mind none of this is meant to offend you so don't take it in that way. My assumption is just that you love japanese games so much you don't give the western titles enough of a shot usually. Me for example I was originally not interested in Gears of War, Elder Scrolls, Ghost Recon, PDZ, PGR3, COD 2, Kameo at and yet I own all those games I've had fun with them and I plan to own Gears of War. Halo I've always been interested in, but never got to play it now i'm enjoying halo 1 on the pc.

If I was to look at my 360 games list the ONLY games I actually bought because I knew from the get go I wanted them are Dead or Alive 4 and Fight Night Round 3. All the other games I own I originally wasn't going to buy them.. wasn't interested in the least then I figured I'd give them a chance and to my surprise I'm having fun with them all. So I only see jolli as a japanese art style fanboy :) (not meant as an insult)

Agree, I haven't played enough of GT4 to state which I think is the better game, I was only referring to the graphics department.For me they refere to how I enjoy to play a game.
If they improve on those things, I probably won't find it getting boring so soon.
I like variety and nice surprices while I progress in a game, maybe this isn't the game for it, and maybe it's very difficult to make such a game to appeal to "complaining" people like myself aswell, but I'm allowed to share my thoughts about it, can't I?
And I've played many, if not every racing game on the Xbox, so I know what's out there.I have no idea what you are saying here, but what Jollipop means is that many people like playing games on all consoles and do not prefer a certain platform
However, these people are seen as "fanboys" when they don't fancy a game on one platform (Xbox/360), but do on another(PS 2/3)
I guess some people see this as betray(how ridiculous this may sound).

I agree with that actually ..

well if we're talking about the graphics of racing games on xbox, or even really in general, I think it's no question, rallisport 2 as a whole sons all the rest graphically. it's not even close.

I don't think you can't complain about game features you don't like, you certainly can, I thnk that in this case of disagreement, its not a matter of xbox fanaticism, its a matter of what you say around racing game fanatics, which I'm pretty sure lebato and I would qualify as. We tend to go on rants on this genre in particular because we're very passionate about it. GT4 in particular is a sore spot. it's like walking into one of those star wars conventions in a jar jar binks outfit.

as to the rest of your concerns, well,we can always wait and see what the next TOCA brings, on 360 or better yet GTR.

GOTY

Hey I can beat that one! Alright here goes... Its like walking into a library and catching paris hilton reading a book.