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Posté par Milhouse

The cars are definitly remodeled, not just in photomode. And the only difference you really notice with the highest LoD model is that you can see the full detailed interior. And this is also only for your car you are driving. Every other car model isn't replaced in photomode and you can't even see their full interiors.

The cars do look better during a race/replay, but they are definitely not remodeled. It's like they just increased the polygons. Then on photomode/select screen they get a HUGE poly/detail upgrade everywhere, not just interior like you said. If you really can't see that, well that's good for you. The non-player cars in photomode have a detail a notch down from the player car too.

Still, looks awesome, and good job there Simon. But you know Simon, that picture you posted is overly compressed--by you it looks like. There is no way a picture that say will come out to be that bad looking. So get it together man, and stop using paint to resize your pictures, lol.

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The cars are definitly remodeled, not just in photomode. And the only difference you really notice with the highest LoD model is that you can see the full detailed interior. And this is also only for your car you are driving. Every other car model isn't replaced in photomode and you can't even see their full interiors.[/quote]
The cars do look better during a race/replay, but they are definitely not remodeled.  It's like they just increased the polygons.  Then on photomode/select screen they get a HUGE poly/detail upgrade everywhere, not just interior like you said.  If you really can't see that, well that's good for you.  The non-player cars in photomode have a detail a notch down from the player car too.

Still, looks awesome, and good job there Simon.  But you know Simon, that picture you posted is overly compressed--by you it looks like.  There is no way a picture that say will come out to be that bad looking.  So get it together man, and stop using paint to resize your pictures, lol.

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Hmmm. :D

Well, I uh, I gotta say I'm not sure when that compression happened. I had to take a pretty zoomed out picture or it'd cut off the hood of the car, so then I just cropped the image to leave the car in view for this one. I must've sat on a cockup button at some point. I'll make sure future pics are cleaner! :)

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Posté par SimonM7

Hmmm. :D

Well, I uh, I gotta say I'm not sure when that compression happened. I had to take a pretty zoomed out picture or it'd cut off the hood of the car, so then I just cropped the image to leave the car in view for this one. I must've sat on a cockup button at some point. I'll make sure future pics are cleaner! :)

By the way I meant to say a picture of that size (I said "say", wtf) should not look that bad.

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Still don't have the game... but I'm sitting it out. Not until a price drop.

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I made the shocking discovery today that FM3 doesn't support public online games, but only (limited) matchmaking and private online games.. What was used in FM and FM2 most by me (and many others) simply got taken out of the game.. I cannot believe it..

I searched a bit online and found the official FM3 forums where *a lot* of people were complaining about the same thing.. I cannot believe T10 (or MS whoever) came to this decision to force everybody to use their new "revolutionary" matchmaking system.. It's fun for casual gamers I bet, but for us a bit more serious racers that want to control what we race, and where, and with what settings it plainly sucks! All you are left with is private races, which is pretty much useless of you don't have dozens of people on your friendlist for that purpose (goes for 99,9% of all of us I bet)..

Major major mistake by T10!

People started a vote on the FM3 forums to hopefully get public custom online games back in.. I suggest all fans here vote there aswell, who knows it might help: http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/1/3163918... (vote yes obviously)

Remember this is not a cry against the new matchmaking, it's just to get public custom games back in (next to the private ones).. And the ability to search for them offcourse (but that speaks for itself I think, although that's what I thought about public custom online games being in the game aswell *sigh*)..

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I made the shocking discovery today that FM3 doesn't support public online games, but only (limited) matchmaking and private online games.. What was used in FM and FM2 most by me (and many others) simply got taken out of the game.. I cannot believe it..

I searched a bit online and found the official FM3 forums where *a lot* of people were complaining about the same thing.. I cannot believe T10 (or MS whoever) came to this decision to force everybody to use their new "revolutionary" matchmaking system.. It's fun for casual gamers I bet, but for us a bit more serious racers that want to control what we race, and where, and with what settings it plainly sucks! All you are left with is private races, which is pretty much useless of you don't have dozens of people on your friendlist for that purpose (goes for 99,9% of all of us I bet)..

Major major mistake by T10!

People started a vote on the FM3 forums to hopefully get public custom online games back in.. I suggest all fans here vote there aswell, who knows it might help: http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/1/3163918/ShowThread.aspx (vote yes obviously)

Remember this is not a cry against the new matchmaking, it's just to get public custom games back in (next to the private ones).. And the ability to search for them offcourse (but that speaks for itself I think, although that's what I thought about public custom online games being in the game aswell *sigh*)..

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Another bad news is the fact that they no longer let you paint the car's calipers, and some cars seem to have even less body kits than before :(

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Posté par LEBATO

Another bad news is the fact that they no longer let you paint the car's calipers, and some cars seem to have even less body kits than before :(

I've noticed this, its really annoying! And where is the Porsche Cayman S??? I have no idea why they woud remove cars that were already in Forza 2

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I made the shocking discovery today that FM3 doesn't support public online games, but only (limited) matchmaking and private online games.. What was used in FM and FM2 most by me (and many others) simply got taken out of the game.. I cannot believe it..

Huge mistake by Turn10.

Being able to setup a room with solid options to account for your current mood (or state of online players) was HUGE in FM2. e.g. Tonight me and a B3D guy were racing. Clearly a lot of newbs in matchmaking. All we needed to do was enable "ghost driving" because of the 8 people racing 3 thought it was bumper cars / destruction derby. This really made for frustrating racing.

Not being able to actually use all the AWESOME options they have is a pity. And it has a negative impact on the online component. While matchmaking worked for Halo 3 (pity their online features were also neutered) there is no reason a well functioning model in FM2 was abandoned.

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Acert93

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http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/1/3093291...

Over 102 pages / 2020+ posts. They may not listen, but the more people who comment, "+1 Please bring back open custom lobbys" maybe we can effect change... for FM4.

The inability to tune between online races is another big issue for those into that. Kind of shocked system link is gone too (no way am I buying 4 copies of live for a local LAN setup!) I am missing the tournaments and more focused weekly events, too.

I hated matchmaking in Halo 3, and I am hating it even more in FM3 due to the fact so many tards ruin your race from the get go. :(

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Posté par Acert93

I hated matchmaking in Halo 3, and I am hating it even more in FM3 due to the fact so many tards ruin your race from the get go. :(

I said it before and I'll say it again, I didn't even play much FM2 online because of that very reasons "many tard ruin your race from the get go". That's also why I haven't been very vocal about the dumbed down multiplayer, I frankly can't care as much. If that's your reason you are hating the MP, I find it very hard to see how a customized mp would be any different.

Probably the most enjoyable "races" in FM2 were the 90 lap Tsukuba drift events, were racing was really not important.

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I had a lot of really great online MP races in FM2. The custom lobbies tended to weed out griefers, and since you attracted other racers interested in actually racing they were more than happy to BOOT lamers. It took 3 races to kick a griefer this afternoon in matchmaking :(

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On the 14th some of us will be getting together. We are planning out some courses and car classes ahead. I will post that info here if anyone is interested in getting together.

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Grift will get a laugh out of this.

1) Turn10 said all the online features from FM2 were coming to FM3.

2) Turn10 stripped opened Public Lobbies, only allowing Match Making and Private Lobbies.

3) Result?

Exhibit A. Forza official forums were 80% of posters voting say MP is significantly broken and has little to no replay value.

Exhibit B. Over 2,400 posts since launch complaining about the Match Making system.

Exhibit C. Forza fans ran to IGN and other review sites leaving scathing reviews praising the game but making up for the bad PR and misleading/incompetent media reviews by rating the game, on average, less than 5 stars out of 10 with common titles like, "Perfect Racing Game, Completely Broken Online Play."

Match Making is closely tied to DLC, but in some cases it may actually lose money when you alienate a huge segment of your core fans. As of today Turn10 has said they have absolutely no plans of enabling public lobbies again. Reminds me of when Bungie's 11th hour stripping of the Custom Game Browser...

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Grift will get a laugh out of this.

1) Turn10 said all the online features from FM2 were coming to FM3.

2) Turn10 stripped opened Public Lobbies, only allowing Match Making and Private Lobbies.

3) Result?

[url=http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/1/3209670/ShowThread.aspx]Exhibit A.[/url] Forza official forums were 80% of posters voting say MP is significantly broken and has little to no replay value.

[url=http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/1/3209701/ShowThread.aspx]Exhibit B.[/url] Over 2,400 posts since launch complaining about the Match Making system.

[url=http://rr.xbox360.ign.com/rrobj/xbox360/object/14345839/]Exhibit C.[/url] Forza fans ran to IGN and other review sites leaving scathing reviews praising the game but making up for the bad PR and misleading/incompetent media reviews by rating the game, on average, less than 5 stars out of 10 with common titles like, "Perfect Racing Game, Completely Broken Online Play."

Match Making is closely tied to DLC, but in some cases it may actually lose money when you alienate a huge segment of your core fans. As of today Turn10 has said they have absolutely no plans of enabling public lobbies again. Reminds me of when Bungie's 11th hour stripping of the Custom Game Browser...

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Posté par Acert93

Grift will get a laugh out of this.

1) Turn10 said all the online features from FM2 were coming to FM3.

2) Turn10 stripped opened Public Lobbies, only allowing Match Making and Private Lobbies.

3) Result?

Exhibit A. Forza official forums were 80% of posters voting say MP is significantly broken and has little to no replay value.

Exhibit B. Over 2,400 posts since launch complaining about the Match Making system.

Exhibit C. Forza fans ran to IGN and other review sites leaving scathing reviews praising the game but making up for the bad PR and misleading/incompetent media reviews by rating the game, on average, less than 5 stars out of 10 with common titles like, "Perfect Racing Game, Completely Broken Online Play."

Match Making is closely tied to DLC, but in some cases it may actually lose money when you alienate a huge segment of your core fans. As of today Turn10 has said they have absolutely no plans of enabling public lobbies again. Reminds me of when Bungie's 11th hour stripping of the Custom Game Browser...

Wow, let's see if those fools learn a lesson this time around.

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[quote=Acert93]Grift will get a laugh out of this.

1) Turn10 said all the online features from FM2 were coming to FM3.

2) Turn10 stripped opened Public Lobbies, only allowing Match Making and Private Lobbies.

3) Result?

[url=http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/1/3209670/ShowThread.aspx]Exhibit A.[/url] Forza official forums were 80% of posters voting say MP is significantly broken and has little to no replay value.

[url=http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/1/3209701/ShowThread.aspx]Exhibit B.[/url] Over 2,400 posts since launch complaining about the Match Making system.

[url=http://rr.xbox360.ign.com/rrobj/xbox360/object/14345839/]Exhibit C.[/url] Forza fans ran to IGN and other review sites leaving scathing reviews praising the game but making up for the bad PR and misleading/incompetent media reviews by rating the game, on average, less than 5 stars out of 10 with common titles like, "Perfect Racing Game, Completely Broken Online Play."

Match Making is closely tied to DLC, but in some cases it may actually lose money when you alienate a huge segment of your core fans. As of today Turn10 has said they have absolutely no plans of enabling public lobbies again. Reminds me of when Bungie's 11th hour stripping of the Custom Game Browser...[/quote]
Wow, let's see if those fools learn a lesson this time around.

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Holly shit, I can't believe I just read this shit from this idiotic tool. From Chou Chou at http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/post/3147...

"Multiplayer matchmaking is the future of online console gaming and so far it's going well for FM3."

And then in response to the question of why can't we have both options, matchmaking and public games.

"Because we do not want to dilute the matchmaking system. The new system exists as a replacement of the old system. If you want custom lobbies, then organize some people to play in your own private lobby. Otherwise, play matchmaking."

What a bitch. I know I said I didn't play FM2 MP that much, and that the only thing I played was "drift events", and well that pretty much puts me at zero online time this time around with FM3. But I understand the huge disgust other people have. I've been there, and you just can't expect much from T10. You just have to wonder what stupidity they'll come up next with FM4--remove cockpit cam?

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This game flopped in October's NPD. I can't help but laugh considering how cocky and misleading Dan and Che were when promoting the game. Maybe this will teach them something.

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what? don't hype your game or it will sell bad?

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Posté par vspectra06

This game flopped in October's NPD. I can't help but laugh considering how cocky and misleading Dan and Che were when promoting the game. Maybe this will teach them something.

Did it really do bad? Is it that relevant considering it was released on the 27th?

As much as I don't like the public face of this game, this is still so far the best console racing game out there by a long shot, so I would hope it sells well.

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FM2 outsold it in the same 5 day period. Considering the 360 install base is almost 3 times larger, yeah. 170k isn't what you expect from a title that has improved as well as become more accessible. I don't know what kind of marketing they did. The game has over 200k people on the leaderboards (Europe?) so it is definately on the path of profitability--but not what MS wants I am sure.

As an aside, while I doubt open lobbies hurt initial sales, open lobbies DOES kill word of mouth.

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I think word of mouth really hurt FM3.. To many people were (and still are) to dissapointed in the online part of FM3, and all the news about that kept friends and others from buying it.. And now it's biting T10 (and MS) in the ass.. I just checked the online matchmaking in FM3 again today, and there were only about 600 people in total on all the 'hoppers' (as they like to call them).. It's a big failure, and they've only got themselfs to blame.. Taking away online standards and replacing it with a crappy very limited matchmaking system simply won't be accepted..

Same issue as PC gamers have with the online of CoD:MW2 really, in that version of the game common online standards were also taken away (in a even worse way).. And because of that it hurts me double as a gamer, because I was really looking forward to playing both FM3 on Xbox360 and CoD:MW2 on PC, and both games seriously dissapointed me with their online (a very important part of the game for me)..

As a result I'm a bit to gutted to game much atm.. I mainly play some Company of Heroes online with some friends.. Lets hope that and other future games will keep up to standards, and this is not some sort of new bad trend in the industry..

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You just have to wonder what stupidity they'll come up next with FM4?

Next FM and CoD game I won't buy in preorder, but wait until release to see if the game meets my (online) standards.. If they are like FM3 and CoD:MW2(PC), then it's an easy decision for me.. No buy!

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I think word of mouth really hurt FM3.. To many people were (and still are) to dissapointed in the online part of FM3, and all the news about that kept friends and others from buying it.. And now it's biting T10 (and MS) in the ass.. I just checked the online matchmaking in FM3 again today, and there were only about 600 people in total on all the 'hoppers' (as they like to call them).. It's a big failure, and they've only got themselfs to blame.. Taking away online standards and replacing it with a crappy very limited matchmaking system simply won't be accepted..

Same issue as PC gamers have with the online of CoD:MW2 really, in that version of the game common online standards were also taken away (in a even worse way).. And because of that it hurts me double as a gamer, because I was really looking forward to playing both FM3 on Xbox360 and CoD:MW2 on PC, and both games seriously dissapointed me with their online (a very important part of the game for me)..

As a result I'm a bit to gutted to game much atm.. I mainly play some Company of Heroes online with some friends.. Lets hope that and other future games will keep up to standards, and this is not some sort of new bad trend in the industry..

[quote=LEBATO] You just have to wonder what stupidity they'll come up next with FM4?[/quote]
Next FM and CoD game I won't buy in preorder, but wait until release to see if the game meets my (online) standards.. If they are like FM3 and CoD:MW2(PC), then it's an easy decision for me.. No buy!

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Posté par Acert93

FM2 outsold it in the same 5 day period. Considering the 360 install base is almost 3 times larger, yeah. 170k isn't what you expect from a title that has improved as well as become more accessible. I don't know what kind of marketing they did. The game has over 200k people on the leaderboards (Europe?) so it is definately on the path of profitability--but not what MS wants I am sure.

As an aside, while I doubt open lobbies hurt initial sales, open lobbies DOES kill word of mouth.

I never saw an ad for it, if that counts for marketing

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Posté par Acert93

FM2 outsold it in the same 5 day period. Considering the 360 install base is almost 3 times larger, yeah. 170k isn't what you expect from a title that has improved as well as become more accessible. I don't know what kind of marketing they did. The game has over 200k people on the leaderboards (Europe?) so it is definately on the path of profitability--but not what MS wants I am sure.

As an aside, while I doubt open lobbies hurt initial sales, open lobbies DOES kill word of mouth.

Whoa that sucks. And I agree with that last statement.

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Just had to post these amazing s pics :D

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Wauw, those pics look amazing.. Almost photorealistic..

P.s. any news on the online MP in FM3? I haven't really played the game lately (dissapointment in online MP bassicly killed my inner drive to play the game).. I also fear MW2 on PC is heading in the same way for me (meaning no long live because of screwed up online MP).. Great games, but still dissapointed, how did they do it?!? Easy, screw with online MP (for more control and probably force more gamers into buying premium DLC)

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