God of War 3 Thread

Ronsauce

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"Action" is a bit vague... I'd be more inclined to call God of War a hack'n'slash...along with the other similar games.

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Sath

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Action games are...games with action.

Games like NG, DMC, GoW, Bayonetta...etc. are focused on combat alot, hence action hack and slash, considering they all have weapons with blades were you hack and slash your enemies (more or less).

3rd person action hack and slash, hack and slash, action/adventure hack and slash, action hack and slash...pick any.

But games like Darksiders were its quite heavy with melee weapons, platforming and puzzles involved all at once, I say action/adventure games.

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KORNdog

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Posté par Ronsauce

"Action" is a bit vague... I'd be more inclined to call God of War a hack'n'slash...along with the other similar games.

isnt a hack 'n' slash considered by most to be something like say, dynasty warriors/ NNN. the ones that require little to no actual thought.

action games are usually considered to be the devil may cry style action, i've honestly never seen it be considered anything else.

there is no exploration, no platforming, no puzzles, it's all about the combat. (but i've said before that i'd say god of war was more action/adventure then an action game, since it does have traditional "adventure" elements, but i'd be going against the grain if brought that into the equation)

but to clarify since some obviously wont agree with the action genre being the likes of devil may cry, i'll just say god of war 3 looks better then anything out there that plays similarly (devil may cry, ninja gaiden, dante's inferno, bayonetta, etc etc)

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Jin187

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since when was gears, AC2 (AC1 looked better btw, less visual glitches and pop-in) and RESI 5 action games? action games are ninja gaiden, god of war, dante's inferno, devil may cry, bayonetta. 2 of the 3 YOU listed are third person shooters, and the other is an action adventure title...lol

Hahaha, what???? "The action genre is a class of creative works characterised by a greater emphasis on exciting action sequences than on character development or story-telling." Gears being the most accurate example of this. god of war is an Action Adventure title, just like resident evil and Assassins creed.

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UrukHaiPT

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My most wanted console game. Kratos fucking owns. Loved the demo, can't wait for full game. EPIC.

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Nietzsche

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All of the games being argued about are action games, and the "action genre" just has different sub-genres. Button masher is a bit vague but since God of War's combat is so dumbed-down and simple I'd say button masher isn't too far off, even though the game does have a couple dumbed-down adventure elements as well.

Basically, I just see God of War as a very "noob friendly" version of far superior games (in terms of gameplay and design) like Ninja Gaiden or DMC. God of War simply has far better production values for those who are easily impressed by the pretty shiney stuff lol. God of War just is very over the top in terms of violence and scale and this seems to be very appealing to the modern gamer, for better or worse...

I'm not a huge GoW fan, but I can see why some would like it if for no other reason than the mindless violence and the highly accessable challenge level and combat design.

I personally just hate the fuck out of the Kratos character and that has always big a big turn off for me, though I have finished both GoW one and two and did really enjoy them. Just never thought they were anything nearly as special as some make the franchise out to be.

But I would say it's an action game for sure in the same category as DMC and NG. Button masher is a pretty vague term though?

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All of the games being argued about are action games, and the "action genre" just has different sub-genres. Button masher is a bit vague but since God of War's combat is so dumbed-down and simple I'd say button masher isn't too far off, even though the game does have a couple dumbed-down adventure elements as well.

Basically, I just see God of War as a very "noob friendly" version of far superior games (in terms of gameplay and design) like Ninja Gaiden or DMC. God of War simply has far better production values for those who are easily impressed by the pretty shiney stuff lol. God of War just is very over the top in terms of violence and scale and this seems to be very appealing to the modern gamer, for better or worse...

I'm not a huge GoW fan, but I can see why some would like it if for no other reason than the mindless violence and the highly accessable challenge level and combat design.

I personally just hate the fuck out of the Kratos character and that has always big a big turn off for me, though I have finished both GoW one and two and did really enjoy them. Just never thought they were anything nearly as special as some make the franchise out to be.

But I would say it's an action game for sure in the same category as DMC and NG. Button masher is a pretty vague term though?

KORNdog

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If the two minutes I just played of God of War III are any indication, this game is going to be a visual spectacle. There are sweeping camera angles, constant action, the orientation of levels changes on a whim, and some truly jaw dropping graphics.

New IGN preview, sounds awesome as hell.

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/106/1061530p1.html

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Wanderfalke

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Posté par KORNdog

If the two minutes I just played of God of War III are any indication, this game is going to be a visual spectacle. There are sweeping camera angles, constant action, the orientation of levels changes on a whim, and some truly jaw dropping graphics.

New IGN preview, sounds awesome as hell.

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/106/1061530p1.html

Yeah, sounds indeed extremely impressive!!! The released screenshots for sure look far away from impressive from a graphical standpoint, but as long as it delivers what it promises in the department of scope and scale, I could´t care less. I´m pretty sure it won´t hold a candle to the combat of Bayonetta, DMC and NG but it surely has the potential to give you an amazing entertaining experience with it´s story and scale.

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SimonM7

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GoW is a more than a sum of etc deal, it always was. I'm pretty baffled by how people seem to think it all comes down to visual splendor.. Now, I don't doubt for a second that once it's moving around and doing its GoWy scale thing, these graphics will be shown off in a way different light and actually come together in a spectacular way, but underneath it all is one of the premium action adventure series on the market, to be absolutely honest.

God of War 1 and 2, whatever you try to prove by dissecting their combat, are AWESOME overall experiences with a load of variety both in terms of gameplay and visual themes, and it's the kind of thing where - once finished - you've been on a proper damn journey.

Apart from Zelda, that doesn't really happen anymore.

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Ronsauce

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Posté par Nietzsche

Basically, I just see God of War as a very "noob friendly" version of far superior games (in terms of gameplay and design) like Ninja Gaiden or DMC

Maybe gameplay with respect to the complexity of the combat....but design? I can't agree with that.

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scoobs0688

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lol some of the comments about this game are HILARIOUS. Looks no better than gears 2 or resi 5 or AC2??? lol okay guy, whatever you say.

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SimonM7

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Well it obviously doesn't look better in that same way, GoW zooms back a ton and a shitload of things go all insane all over. I mean you have to take into account the fact that this is a God of War game, you won't follow the action from a zoomed in camera through narrow hallways.

There's no need to spray the area with flamebait.

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IRAIPT0IR

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Posté par Ronsauce

Maybe gameplay with respect to the complexity of the combat....but design? I can't agree with that.

What do you mean? design of what? the combat?

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Ronsauce

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I guess I'd be talking about everything else. I'm not sure what Nietzsche was talking about when he said design though.

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scoobs0688

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character design, story and setting are all far and away better in the god of war series than NG and thats not debatable. What design are we talking about?

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ManThatYouFear

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Bit like saying Killzone 1 is better than halo because it was more accurate and less autoaim, maybe so, but we know who is the daddy at the end of the day.

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IRAIPT0IR

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Posté par ManThatYouFear

Bit like saying Killzone 1 is better than halo because it was more accurate and less autoaim, maybe so, but we know who is the daddy at the end of the day.

In this case we all know who is the mommy ;)

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Nietzsche

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Ronsausce, by design I basically meant combat, enemy patterns, pacing of combat, amount and style of enemies and fights etc...

and I agree, in terms of story and scale, GoW is superior to NG or DMC. I just think, for me personally, the parts of GoW that are so freaking dumbed down keep it from being anything close to as great as NG or Bayonetta, in terms of an overall satisfying experience. GoW is a lot of cool bells and whistles, but not a lot of true substance. NG or Bayonetta, for example, aren't as much to look at but the true meat of the gameplay experience is far more deep, rewarding, and satisfying. IMO of course.

But I don't want to sound too critical b/c for the audience it's aimed at, GoW is a fantastic title that delivers a very cinematic and visceral experience few other games can match. So by no means am I trying to sound too critical of GoW. Just wanted to elaborate on what I meant.

School has me swamped as a mother fucker, but if I get the time, I'd love to play GoW when it comes out. Even if it's not my fav type of game, the presentation alone always makes it a fun experience. I just wish I didn't have to play as Kratos... hate that fucking twat.

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Ronsausce, by design I basically meant combat, enemy patterns, pacing of combat, amount and style of enemies and fights etc...

and I agree, in terms of story and scale, GoW is superior to NG or DMC. I just think, for me personally, the parts of GoW that are so freaking dumbed down keep it from being anything close to as great as NG or Bayonetta, in terms of an overall satisfying experience. GoW is a lot of cool bells and whistles, but not a lot of true substance. NG or Bayonetta, for example, aren't as much to look at but the true meat of the gameplay experience is far more deep, rewarding, and satisfying. IMO of course.

But I don't want to sound too critical b/c for the audience it's aimed at, GoW is a fantastic title that delivers a very cinematic and visceral experience few other games can match. So by no means am I trying to sound too critical of GoW. Just wanted to elaborate on what I meant.

School has me swamped as a mother fucker, but if I get the time, I'd love to play GoW when it comes out. Even if it's not my fav type of game, the presentation alone always makes it a fun experience. I just wish I didn't have to play as Kratos... hate that fucking twat.

SimonM7

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GoW isn't the same type of game as NG or Bayonetta, it's an action adventure title with puzzle solving, platforming, and context based gameplay that mixes up the formula far beyond being a beat 'em up.

You have to simplify the comparison beyond meaning if you want to pit them against one another, and I just don't see the point of doing that at all.

You might aswell compare combat mechanics in NG to Sands of Time.

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ManThatYouFear

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Posté par IRAIPT0IR

In this case we all know who is the mommy ;)

lol, maybe so, yet to play the full game, i will try it one day, demo was shocking though, but enough of that i have said it enough lol.

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Thor

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god of War 3 brand-new trailer in just a few hours people, and by the words of HHGS, it boasts features that would supposed to be in a launch-title of PS4--- maybe hype words but epicness we can guarantee! So, Geoff Keighley describing and explaining what is in the deal:

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-6894-Video-Game...

Uncharted 2 killer???

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ManThatYouFear

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features of ps4... fucking hell thor, i love you for the info but you do talk some bollox, even more so than me.

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KORNdog

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Posté par ManThatYouFear

features of ps4... fucking hell thor, i love you for the info but you do talk some bollox, even more so than me.

hip hop gamers said it, thor was just relaying the info.

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Thor

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you do talk some bollox, even more so than me.

Man, you are bearable, really, I enjoy this kind of sarcasm, heh, so well as KORNdog has cleared the deal for you, does it make you wonder if something really really amazing coming up the horizon?, something truly taking advantage of PS3's insane hardware?, something really showing what Blu-ray advantage really means, once again and several others have already shown... something (by the claim of PS4 comment) that destroys away even the mighty Uncharted 2.

I'm excited... there are news spreading that Crysis-2 will out-do Uncharted2's visuals, but what if something BIGGER to refer comes out before Crysis-2? (though in some places Heavy Rain has already done that) and yeah, GT5 will always be there, but don't you wonder what if the mighty deforming-world technology totally changed the art, cinematic and immersive capabilities of gaming world as represented in gow3? These questions do arise, and we keep watching something generation-defining from PS3 again and again... only few more hours to go :)

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[quote=ManThatYouFear]you do talk some bollox, [b]even more so than me[/b].[/quote]

Man, you are bearable, really, I enjoy this kind of sarcasm, heh, so well as KORNdog has cleared the deal for you, does it make you wonder if something really really amazing coming up the horizon?, something truly taking advantage of PS3's insane hardware?, something really showing what Blu-ray advantage really means, once again and several others have already shown... something (by the claim of PS4 comment) that destroys away even the mighty Uncharted 2.

I'm excited... there are news spreading that Crysis-2 will out-do Uncharted2's visuals, but what if something BIGGER to refer comes out before Crysis-2? (though in some places Heavy Rain has already done that) and yeah, GT5 will always be there, but don't you wonder what if the mighty deforming-world technology totally changed the art, cinematic and immersive capabilities of gaming world as represented in gow3? These questions do arise, and we keep watching something generation-defining from PS3 again and again... only few more hours to go :)

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You are the King of Hyperbole, Thor! I admire your enthusiasm. I was gonna address your comment, but I don't have the heart, lol...

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Oooh, Profound, isn't it?

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