GTA IV delayed to April 2008

endaround
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So will Take Two survive long enough to remain able to publish this game? Really forget the 360 and the PS3, this and Manhunt could cause Take Two to go to receivership when you throw in their other problems including illegally backdating options.

And it sounds like this is actually good news for the 360 with the DLC is still on pace for March according to the press release.
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Optimusv2
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Halo 3's biggest threat gone.. that can work out as a good thing :)
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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
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Posté par Optimusv2
Halo 3's biggest threat gone.. that can work out as a good thing :)
psh, GTAIV was never Halo 3's biggest threat. Everyone knows which game that was, and it's still coming in October! Halo be damned!
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all good things must come to an end

Heretic
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Posté par Phaethon360
*goes to Gamestop*

Clerk: You're looking for some video games?

Me: We're all looking for that special one. I need to know what happened to it, give me that!

Clerk: GTA4 was delayed.

Me: For 10 months, I've been waiting. I gave you this money! A guarantee that you would have this game!

Lady In store: Please, no more killing!

Clerk: You want my word? Fine you got my word!

*clenches fist*

Security Guard: Don't do anything stupid Phaethon!

Me: I'm the one, who pre-ordered first. I'm the one, who survived!

*cell phone rings*

Rockstar Guy: Do this for me, and then we'll talk about the release date.
i expected better

way to spoil me dude.

anyways, i think this is great news. more dev time and less competition for Halo 3
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Finish The Fight Sept. 25th

Halo 3 Bitches!!!

Beware, Heretic is on the prowl!!!

rustykaks
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more time to play mass effect
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dcdelgado
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more time to play mass effect
I'm with you there :)
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Delgado: HALLE what have i told you about bothering me when i'm playing Mass Effect!!! now get out and dont come back for 2 months!! (Slams door

Barber
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I want a demo if they are gonna delay it!
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gmulis - blames poor<br>marketing
gmulis
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april is long way
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mess with the best die the like rest

GrimThorne
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I don't know, I can't help but think that the reason we don't have this game is because of the continual problems developers are having with the PS3.

There was probably only two options for Rockstar.

1- Release the only version that's ready but would give the 360 exclusivity until the PS3 version was finished (08)

2- Wait until both versions are finished and maximize sales on both game platforms.

Rockstar is also probably betting on the PS3's user base being near or equal to the 360's base by 2008.

Yep, I really have a gut feeling that the PS3 is reason why we won't be playing GTA4 this fall.
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
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Could be the other way around, due to the 360's Hard Drive, or lack there of.
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Phaethon, the forum Spectre.

dcdelgado
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Or could it just be that the game plays like crap, and rather than get blasted in the reviews and end up with poor sales, they choose to polish it instead and own 2008.
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Halle Berry: Delgado i am feeling really reall dirty tonight, shall i call Jessica Simpson for a threesome?

Delgado: HALLE what have i told you about bothering me when i'm playing Mass Effect!!! now get out and dont come back for 2 months!! (Slams door

GrimThorne
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Posté par Phaethon360
Could be the other way around, due to the 360's Hard Drive, or lack there of.
developers can make their games HDD mandatory if they want to. the game would carry this logo-

http://www.xboxfamily.com/news%20stories/news_imag...
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Or could it just be that the game plays like crap, and rather than get blasted in the reviews and end up with poor sales, they choose to polish it instead and own 2008.
that too....lol
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deftangel - Hot stuff!
deftangel
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Could be the other way around, due to the 360's Hard Drive, or lack there of.
I'd be suprised, they were demoing the 360 version with the PS3 build nowhere to be seen. The lack of a hard drive in the 360 has been known about for years, if they didn't think they could do it without one they'd have known about it before now.
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alimokrane
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some crappy analyst it seems says that the reason for the delay is the PS3s complexity apparently.
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=80...

Pure speculation of course... take it with a huge pinch of salt!
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JXB
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Could be the other way around, due to the 360's Hard Drive, or lack there of.
Nope, 360 version is ahead of the ps3 version.
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deftangel - Hot stuff!
deftangel
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Pachter has his faults and detractors but crappy analyst is a bit far. That could easily be the reason, Rockstar wouldn't be the first multiplatform dev to have issues. Most of them are.

That said I doubt he knows for sure. He's always very much on Take 2's case for some reason.
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alimokrane
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Posté par deftangel
Pachter has his faults and detractors but crappy analyst is a bit far. That could easily be the reason, Rockstar wouldn't be the first multiplatform dev to have issues. Most of them are.

That said I doubt he knows for sure. He's always very much on Take 2's case for some reason.
The guy is always way off!. He was invited to that round up show at gametrailers and what he kept saying was complete nonsense. Also the firm he works for Morgan something is it ? always gives hardware sales predictions which are usually WAY OFF from the NPD Data ... to be honest market analysts are way over-rated.
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?i...
Rockstar's creative vice president Dan Houser was asked: "On PS3 you've got a guarantee that every machine is going to have a hard-drive and, with Blu-ray, you've got plenty of storage, whereas on Xbox 360 there's no guarantee of a hard-drive and you're working with the DVD format. Does that create limitations?" To which he replied, "Yep."
I'm not entirely certain its the PS3's fault. Trade offs on both sides, but I'm crediting this delay to more development time necessary to make it an overall decent product.
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Phaethon, the forum Spectre.

deftangel - Hot stuff!
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He works for Wedbush-Morgan.

It's a little unfair to write him off based on what he says publically, that's only a very small part of what he actually does as an analyst. The meat and potatoes of his stuff is sold in reports to publishers for thousands of dollars.

If he was useless nobody would buy them and he'd be sacked rather quickly.

Sure he sticks his neck out and says a few things, sometimes rather spectaculary getting them wrong but even so, after a couple of bad months he pretty much nailed NPD for June.
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deftangel - Hot stuff!
deftangel
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Posté par Phaethon360
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=163233
Rockstar's creative vice president Dan Houser was asked: "On PS3 you've got a guarantee that every machine is going to have a hard-drive and, with Blu-ray, you've got plenty of storage, whereas on Xbox 360 there's no guarantee of a hard-drive and you're working with the DVD format. Does that create limitations?" To which he replied, "Yep."
I'm not entirely certain its the PS3's fault.
That is from ages ago. If anything it illustates the point. The no hard drive 360 limitation is a known quantity and has been for a long long time. Even last week Rockstar were saying it was October.

It's not a crime if they need a little longer to get up to speed on their PS3 version, it's Rockstar's first PS3 game after all and it's well known it's a steep learning code for everyone working with the hardware.

Why people persist with these you'll need the hard drive to play GTA:IV rumours I'll never know!
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newbielives
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Ouch this is going to hurt Sony, atleast 360 has Halo3 to fall on as its major system seller this year.
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PlayStation 3 responsible for GTA IV delay, surmises Pachter

http://xbox360.joystiq.com/2007/08/03/playstation-...


With Take-Two remaining tight-lipped about what's really behind the Grand Theft Auto IV delay – they're going with the vague "almost strictly technological challenges" defense – it's up to the pundits, analysts, bloggers, and anonymous tipsters to give us the skinny on what's really going down. First up to bat is video game analyst extraordinaire, Michael Pachter who told our pals at GameDaily BIZ, "We think it is likely that the Rockstar team had difficulty in building an exceptionally complicated game for the PS3, and failed to recognize how far away from completion the game truly was until recently." Of course, he means really recently, since Take-Two did just reaffirm their plans to ship the game in October as recently as E3 (yeah, the one last month).

We know what you're thinking: Why not release the game for Xbox 360 in ought seven, and ship the PS3 release whenever it's ready (everyone else seems to be taking this course of action)? Pachter further surmises "that Take-Two had a contractual commitment to Sony that it would not favor competitor Microsoft by launching the Xbox 360 version of GTA IV prior to launching the PS3 version," calling it "the only plausible explanation." Guess he doesn't think much of our theory that the targeting was too accurate and intuitive and needed to be retooled.

[Update: Newsweek's N'Gai Croal takes a slightly different approach than Mr. Pachter, surmising, "We believe that Rockstar is having difficulty with both versions of the game, not just the PS3." In other words, no deals enforcing a consistent launch date across platforms, just difficulty in getting it ready on either. "It wouldn't surprise us if Rockstar and Take-Two had already all-but-delayed the PS3 version to triage the Xbox 360 version for this holiday, only to have their hands forced when, at yesterday's product review, it became clear to both sides that even the 360 version could not be completed this year to Rockstar's exacting standards."]
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ManThatYouFear
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lol 1 game is delayed and your all shouting doom, there are other games....
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endaround
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Patcher is likely on Take Two's case because Take Two has you know broken the law in its filings. There's a reason former corporate officers are gong to jail.
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lol 1 game is delayed and your all shouting doom, there are other games....
Psssht other games? People buy consoles just to play GTA, im gutted, unless a Fight Night 4 gets talked about soon im selling my 360.
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