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Since 6910 Days

De Kalexo sur wearepes :
Un petit post qui résume une conférence de 402.

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In an interview with fourzerotwo, during the mutiplayer beta event that occured last week, he was aksed what his two favorite killstreaks are. His reply was he wasn't going to reveal his favorites until the game ships. This gives rise to the idea that they weren't revealing all of the MP aspects the game posseses. This leads us to believe that it wasn't just killstreak stuff they were hiding but possibly weapons and perks as well. The other thing to remember is that some of the perks have either been replaced or moved. An example is perk slot one. All of those items have been moved to equipment except for perhaps bomb squad. Another example is with sleight of hand. This perk used to be in slot 2 or 3 (can't remember), now its been moved to slot 1. Also all perks now have a pro level which is basically doubling the amount of perks because these pro levels do something different as well. This alone adds more perks to the game. Another thing that has been done differently this time around is the addition of deathstreaks. In the same interview with 402, he mentioned that this was a way to help players, much like martyrdom did in the first game to get kills. He said they were trying to help the inexperienced gamer, while trying to keep pro players from reaping the same benefits. These types of perks were meant to be a sort of handicap to poor players, to try and even the playing field. They're trying to make everything balanced and this means removing and adding different components of the game. However, this doesn't mean that martyrdom isn't returning but this might be a reason why there appears to be less perks. This may be the reason also why we have yet to see anything about last stand. In COD4 there were some perks that were utterly useless, like eavesdrop. It was a good concept for a perk but more or less useless to the average player. Unless you're playing strict and structured clan matches, you probably never wasted a perk slot with that one. I believe that IW is simply keeping much of the details in the shadows until the game launches cause what fun is it showing all the goodies you have before it's ready. I think we have yet to see the lion's share of all the weapons, perks, killstreaks, deathstreaks and everything else this game has to offer. And besides like someone mentioned and 402 mentioned as well I believe, there are 70 levels. If all we saw in the beta was what was on the game you'd only unlock something like every 10 levels. 402 said that there was something to unlock on virtually every level, giving the impression that there are tons of unlocks, and not just new emblems and titles. And don't forget about prestige mode, 402 mentioned that prestige mode has it's own rewards and unlocks so prestiging this time will be much more worth it. If the beta was the full version of the game, it would be boring quite quickly, and we all know that IW knows much better than that and that they've already made the #1 FPS of all time (COD4) what makes you think they're gonna have anything less this time?

Donc rapidement, y'a 70 niveaux et quasiement un élément de débloqué à chaque level : une arme, un atout, une série de tués, un équipement, etc. Enfin bref, le premier prestige sera magique, entre les nouveaux défis et ces 70 niveaux...

Sinon il explique aussi que beaucoup de perks ont disparu pour l'instant : baroud honneur, martyr, mastodonte, etc. Tandis que d'autres ont vraiment bougé, notamment avec la nouvelle catégorie nommée "Equipement" : claymore, RPG, grenades x3, etc. toutes ne seront plus en Atout 1, mais en Equipement. En Atout 1, on retrouve des atouts 2 et 3 de COD4 : rechargement rapide ou sprint et de nouveaux atouts.

Enfin bref, on a surement encore tout un tas de choses à découvrir dans les 2 prochains mois. :-*

De Stanislas sur werarepes:

Pour corroborer ce que dit Kalexo, trouvé sur le twitter de MW2 :

Martyrdom Confirmed But Treated Differently

Lead character artist on Modern Warfare 2, Joel Emslie, has confirmed that Martydom will be a perk in MW2 but it will be “treated differently”.

The Martyrdom perk, as fans of CoD 4 know it, gives players a chance to kill opposing players in a “from the grave” style. With the perk enabled, players will automatically drop a live grenade when they are killed. Many consider the perk “cheap”, as it can often lead to automatic death following close quarters fighting.

He wasn’t able to go into detail but, speaking to VideoGamer, Joel had this to say

“We are very, very aware of the community and what they like and don’t like, and Martyrdom has caught our attention. I’m happy with how the game is.

It’s [Martyrdom] treated differently. And I will say this – it fits in perfectly.”

Some fans have expressed concern that the Riot Shield will unbalance Modern Warfare 2’s multiplayer. Emslie, however, denied this.

“There’s always a counter-measure to everything in the game, every element that’s been added and is brand new to multiplayer has been painstakingly tested by us, our own worst critics. We’ve had shouting matches about changes, very passionate heated debates about what works and what doesn’t work.

We would add a new element, go play it, and then people would come storming into [lead multiplayer designer] Todd Alderman’s office to say, “Why did you change this?! What were you even thinking?! I played CoD 4 and this is the way I loved it! Why are you changing it?”. I can guarantee you that the stuff we pushed off to the side and didn’t put in the game would blow you away.”

Source : ici

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Quelques infos supplementaire sur le multi joueurs :

Il y aura une map enneigée (avec des scooters des neiges qu'on ne peut pas conduire)
Pas de système de vote pour kicker un trouduc, mais un delai de respawn qui augmente pour les teamkiller, et IW s'est penché sur les controlleurs modés.
Pas d'écrans splitté en multi online
Plus de map que dans cod4
Tuer au bouclier nécessite deux charges
Tuer un mec équipé de bouclier nécessite de tirer dans les jambes si il n'est pas accroupi, ou le tuer par derrière, ou y aller à l'explosif.
Un bouclier criblé de balles n'est plus très transparent.

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De Kalexo sur wearepes :
Un petit post qui résume une conférence de 402.

Citation
In an interview with fourzerotwo, during the mutiplayer beta event that occured last week, he was aksed what his two favorite killstreaks are. His reply was he wasn't going to reveal his favorites until the game ships. This gives rise to the idea that they weren't revealing all of the MP aspects the game posseses. This leads us to believe that it wasn't just killstreak stuff they were hiding but possibly weapons and perks as well. The other thing to remember is that some of the perks have either been replaced or moved. An example is perk slot one. All of those items have been moved to equipment except for perhaps bomb squad. Another example is with sleight of hand. This perk used to be in slot 2 or 3 (can't remember), now its been moved to slot 1. Also all perks now have a pro level which is basically doubling the amount of perks because these pro levels do something different as well. This alone adds more perks to the game. Another thing that has been done differently this time around is the addition of deathstreaks. In the same interview with 402, he mentioned that this was a way to help players, much like martyrdom did in the first game to get kills. He said they were trying to help the inexperienced gamer, while trying to keep pro players from reaping the same benefits. These types of perks were meant to be a sort of handicap to poor players, to try and even the playing field. They're trying to make everything balanced and this means removing and adding different components of the game. However, this doesn't mean that martyrdom isn't returning but this might be a reason why there appears to be less perks. This may be the reason also why we have yet to see anything about last stand. In COD4 there were some perks that were utterly useless, like eavesdrop. It was a good concept for a perk but more or less useless to the average player. Unless you're playing strict and structured clan matches, you probably never wasted a perk slot with that one. I believe that IW is simply keeping much of the details in the shadows until the game launches cause what fun is it showing all the goodies you have before it's ready. I think we have yet to see the lion's share of all the weapons, perks, killstreaks, deathstreaks and everything else this game has to offer. And besides like someone mentioned and 402 mentioned as well I believe, there are 70 levels. If all we saw in the beta was what was on the game you'd only unlock something like every 10 levels. 402 said that there was something to unlock on virtually every level, giving the impression that there are tons of unlocks, and not just new emblems and titles. And don't forget about prestige mode, 402 mentioned that prestige mode has it's own rewards and unlocks so prestiging this time will be much more worth it. If the beta was the full version of the game, it would be boring quite quickly, and we all know that IW knows much better than that and that they've already made the #1 FPS of all time (COD4) what makes you think they're gonna have anything less this time?

Donc rapidement, y'a 70 niveaux et quasiement un élément de débloqué à chaque level : une arme, un atout, une série de tués, un équipement, etc. Enfin bref, le premier prestige sera magique, entre les nouveaux défis et ces 70 niveaux...

Sinon il explique aussi que beaucoup de perks ont disparu pour l'instant : baroud honneur, martyr, mastodonte, etc. Tandis que d'autres ont vraiment bougé, notamment avec la nouvelle catégorie nommée "Equipement" : claymore, RPG, grenades x3, etc. toutes ne seront plus en Atout 1, mais en Equipement. En Atout 1, on retrouve des atouts 2 et 3 de COD4 : rechargement rapide ou sprint et de nouveaux atouts.

Enfin bref, on a surement encore tout un tas de choses à découvrir dans les 2 prochains mois.  :-*

De Stanislas sur werarepes:

Pour corroborer ce que dit Kalexo, trouvé sur le twitter de MW2 :

Martyrdom Confirmed But Treated Differently

Lead character artist on Modern Warfare 2, Joel Emslie, has confirmed that Martydom will be a perk in MW2 but it will be “treated differently”.

The Martyrdom perk, as fans of CoD 4 know it, gives players a chance to kill opposing players in a “from the grave” style. With the perk enabled, players will automatically drop a live grenade when they are killed. Many consider the perk “cheap”, as it can often lead to automatic death following close quarters fighting.

He wasn’t able to go into detail but, speaking to VideoGamer, Joel had this to say

“We are very, very aware of the community and what they like and don’t like, and Martyrdom has caught our attention. I’m happy with how the game is.

It’s [Martyrdom] treated differently. And I will say this – it fits in perfectly.”

Some fans have expressed concern that the Riot Shield will unbalance Modern Warfare 2’s multiplayer. Emslie, however, denied this.

“There’s always a counter-measure to everything in the game, every element that’s been added and is brand new to multiplayer has been painstakingly tested by us, our own worst critics. We’ve had shouting matches about changes, very passionate heated debates about what works and what doesn’t work.

We would add a new element, go play it, and then people would come storming into [lead multiplayer designer] Todd Alderman’s office to say, “Why did you change this?! What were you even thinking?! I played CoD 4 and this is the way I loved it! Why are you changing it?”. I can guarantee you that the stuff we pushed off to the side and didn’t put in the game would blow you away.”

Source : [url=http://twitter.com/MW2Blog]ici[/url]

Quelques infos supplementaire sur le multi joueurs :

Il y aura une map enneigée (avec des scooters des neiges qu'on ne peut pas conduire)
Pas de système de vote pour kicker un trouduc, mais un delai de respawn qui augmente pour les teamkiller, et IW s'est penché sur les controlleurs modés.
Pas d'écrans splitté en multi online
Plus de map que dans cod4
Tuer au bouclier nécessite deux charges
Tuer un mec équipé de bouclier nécessite de tirer dans les jambes si il n'est pas accroupi, ou le tuer par derrière, ou y aller à l'explosif.
Un bouclier criblé de balles n'est plus très transparent.

Soit belle et rebelle plutôt que moche et remoche^^

CraCra

Since 7726 Days

petite vidéo interview sur le multi avec quelques nouveaux passages ingame ainsi que des menu

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/multiplayer-inte...

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The Dreadful Unit #16 ;)
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Gorn

Since 7534 Days

On voit un killstreak nommé pave low, apparemment c'est un gros hélicoptère de transport de troupe et pas de combat :
http://aviaweb.ifrance.com/helicos/mil/mh-53j.htm

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Kitano23

Since 6818 Days

Pas de barroud d'honneur ni de mastodonte ? Mince je vais faire comment ^^

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notourious67

Since 6910 Days

Posted by Kitanikko

Pas de barroud d'honneur ni de mastodonte ? Mince je vais faire comment ^^

Il y aura toujours des perks adapté a tes besoins mais surement sous d'autres formes :)

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Soit belle et rebelle plutôt que moche et remoche^^

bosozoku

Since 7518 Days

"Pas de système de vote pour kicker un trouduc, mais un delai de respawn qui augmente pour les teamkiller"

Pff..

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CraCra

Since 7726 Days

Posted by Kitanikko

Pas de barroud d'honneur ni de mastodonte ? Mince je vais faire comment ^^

tu seras pas le seul
c'était la seule chance de Bozo pour faire du frag chez l'ennemi ^^

Posted by bosozoku

"Pas de système de vote pour kicker un trouduc, mais un delai de respawn qui augmente pour les teamkiller"

Pff..

oui comme tu dis
tu risque de pas jouer beaucoup ;)

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The Dreadful Unit #16 ;)
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Avalon

Since 6933 Days

Par contres si ils se "penchent" sur le problème des rapids-fire en tout genre, ce n'est pas un mal..

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the day the world went away

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klone

Since 7634 Days

Ben pour ma part je suis bien content de voir la disparition du baroud et du mastodonte. Surtout du baroud que je ne supporte plus...

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Kitano23

Since 6818 Days

C'est vrai que le baroud est une seconde chance de luxe ... combien de fois j'ai réussi des trucs bien chatteux en baroud !! ^^
Vont-ils revoir le silence de mort aussi ? Parait qu'au casque on peut tout de même entendre les ennemis !

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Avalon

Since 6933 Days

Et encore, tu joues pas souvent avec Kitaniko non? parceque lui en baroud, il est insuportable, même mort il peut tuer encore 2/3 gars!

Une fois, et j'exagère à peine, je l'ai vu tuer en baroud le gars qui venait de le shooter dans les 5/10eme de seconde aprés avoir pris la bastos. Il est rapide comme l'eclair ce gars là. Il est vraiment dangereux! et bien Nah! il le sera moins dans warfare2! :)

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klone

Since 7634 Days

@Kitanikko et Avalon:
Dans le baroud ce qui me saoul c'est genre le mec en bas d'escalier ou tu lui voit pas la tête alors que lui te voit arriver à quinze mille. Ou celui qui te tue à un kilomètre au M9 contre un G3. Sans parler de ceux qui cumule avec le rapide fire.
Du coup j'espère comme toi Avalon qu'ils se penchent réellement sur ce problème!!

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Kitano23

Since 6818 Days

J'ai l'impression qu'il y a également un léger temps où l'on est invincible ... ça dure que quelques dizièmes de secondes, mais c'est suffisant pour aligner l'ennemi ^^

Et merci Dexter pour tant d'éloges, j'essaie de m'en passer du baroud mais les habitudes sont trop ancrées ^^
Pis à part Conditions Extremes, je trouve les autres perks pas du tout décisifs !!

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klone

Since 7634 Days

Ben pour ma part impact lourd et brouilleur de drone. L'impact lourd parce que c'est le pied de buter un sniper cacher derrière un mur mais dans le canon dépasse et le brouilleur pour la tranquillité d'esprit.

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bosozoku

Since 7518 Days

Non mais vraiment ils n'ont rien compris quoi... le même bordel que dans mle 4 va se reproduire dans le 6.
formidable... et je vous prédis la même choses pour des cartes "bof" payantes malgré un succès montre évident. \o/

"Truc muche n'a pas les cartes, vous ne pouvez donc pas jouer à cause de ce connard.. bouhhh le blaireau ! " :EcrisEnRouge:

Comme pour le 4 au sujet du contenu téléchargeable, je serais intraitable ! I-n-t-r-a-i-t-a-b-l-e ! :Q

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Toutes les brutes peuvent se faire obéir, mais seul un gentleman peut se faire respecter.
Ne prenez pas trop au sérieux la vie, personne n'en sort jamais vivant.

Miguel

Since 7664 Days

J'espère qu'ils ont aussi corrigé l'animation quand on est accroupi, notre caméra est au niveau de la tête, donc si on voit pas derrière un muret l'ennemis ne nous voit pas non plus, mais dès qu'on bouge, le joueur "monte" et la caméra reste au même endroit (au niveau de l'arme et la tête largement au dessus), donc nous on ne voit toujours pas derrière ce muret, mais l'ennemis voit carrément notre tête et les épaules.

Et quand certains donnent des accoups pour se déplacés accroupis, on les voit faire que monter et descendre donc ils sont beaucoup plus visibles qu'ils ne le croient.

C'est pour ça que maintenant je reste debout derrière des colines ou autre, car je peux faire dépasser ma tête comme je veux et pas faire dépasser la moité de mon corps sans le savoir en étant accroupi.

Essayez en partie perso, vous verrez comme c'est flagrant et abusé :/

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Soda

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Reportage chez jeuxvideo.fr.

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RF ~ Love fifteen

CraCra

Since 7726 Days

pas mal cette vidéo

vivement qu'il arrive
lui pour le multi et OpF DR pour le solo et le coop

tiens si je vois bien sur la vidéo il y aurai 80 grades minium ?

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Avalon

Since 6933 Days

Ouais, et bien le mode prestige .. :pouetpouet: :)

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Game2k

Since 6982 Days

Déjà vu? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHQm2DeVk_E

J'imagine que oui mais au cas où.
Sinon personne n'a vu les vidéos que j'ai posté en bas de la page précédente, ou c'était du déjà vu aussi.

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CraCra

Since 7726 Days

Petite question
Dans cette vidéo et dans une des autres on peut voir une grosse caisse tomber (comme du ciel)
C’est quoi ca ???

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notourious67

Since 6910 Days

Apparement c est un des bonus que tu obtient pour 4 frag sans mourir , tu peux faire tomber des munitions ou truc du genre , tes copains pourrons ce servir mais les ennemis aussi de ce que j ai cru comprendre

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Soit belle et rebelle plutôt que moche et remoche^^

Miguel

Since 7664 Days

Oui les ennemis aussi peuvent aller se servir dans cette caisse, elle peut contenir des munitions, des armes, et même des airstrike et autres bonus de killstreak (j'ai vu ça dans une des vidéos de GameTrailers, le joueur devait laisser appuyé sur X quelques secondes pour demander un bombardement).

En la faisant tomber à certains endroits ça pourra servir d'appat ou de diversion :)
Ou tuer un sniper en lui faisant tomber sur la tête, ça pourrait être marrant :D

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bosozoku

Since 7518 Days

Une grenade collante ?! Je ne savais pas ! :p

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Gorn

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Posted by bosozoku

Une grenade collante ?! Je ne savais pas ! :p

heu ???

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