BLackHawkodst
BLackHawkodst
Since 5836 Days
looks fracking sweet graphically to me.
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GrimThorne
GrimThorne
Since 6822 Days
I don't want to be the spoil sport here but Earth is under attack and Cerberus heavy troopers dressed in Metroid armor are out there trying to kill you? I mean this couldn't wait until AFTER Shepard defeats the Reapers? Why do this NOW? In one of my games I even gave TIM the Collector base, is he still going to be gunning for me? WTF?!!

And I'm kind of confused by some of things I've been seeing and reading. The Reapers are here! THIS IS IT, the galaxy is under attack! And Shepard has to go out and recruit people? I'm sorry but you would think that everyone with a gun or some kind of tech or biotic ability would be banging on the hull of the Normandy to become apart of Shepard's crew. I mean seriously, does it make any sense to any of you for Shepard to waste time going through dossiers while Earth is being sucked into the Reaper vacuum cleaner? Is he also going to have to take time out to solve his squad mates "personal issues" like in ME2 just so that he can earn their loyalty in an effort to make them better team mates against the greatest threat in the entire galaxy?

Have the writers at Bioware all gone dumb? Look I like cinematic, epic bad-assness just as much as the next gamer, but not at the expense of an intelligently written plot.
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LEBATO
Since 7071 Days
Posted by GrimThorne
I don't want to be the spoil sport here but Earth is under attack and Cerberus heavy troopers dressed in Metroid armor are out there trying to kill you? I mean this couldn't wait until AFTER Shepard defeats the Reapers? Why do this NOW? In one of my games I even gave TIM the Collector base, is he still going to be gunning for me? WTF?!!

And I'm kind of confused by some of things I've been seeing and reading. The Reapers are here! THIS IS IT, the galaxy is under attack! And Shepard has to go out and recruit people? I'm sorry but you would think that everyone with a gun or some kind of tech or biotic ability would be banging on the hull of the Normandy to become apart of Shepard's crew. I mean seriously, does it make any sense to any of you for Shepard to waste time going through dossiers while Earth is being sucked into the Reaper vacuum cleaner? Is he also going to have to take time out to solve his squad mates "personal issues" like in ME2 just so that he can earn their loyalty in an effort to make them better team mates against the greatest threat in the entire galaxy?

Have the writers at Bioware all gone dumb? Look I like cinematic, epic bad-assness just as much as the next gamer, but not at the expense of an intelligently written plot.
What? I haven't read so many assumptions in a while,
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Sephiriah
Sephiriah
Since 6061 Days
Posted by GrimThorne
I don't want to be the spoil sport here but Earth is under attack and Cerberus heavy troopers dressed in Metroid armor are out there trying to kill you? I mean this couldn't wait until AFTER Shepard defeats the Reapers? Why do this NOW? In one of my games I even gave TIM the Collector base, is he still going to be gunning for me? WTF?!!
I pretty much expected this after the end of ME2, you give him the tech and are now obselete as he thinks he can do a better job so bones you over.
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Is he also going to have to take time out to solve his squad mates "personal issues" like in ME2 just so that he can earn their loyalty in an effort to make them better team mates against the greatest threat in the entire galaxy?
Not just his squad mates but civilisations problems. EG [SPOILER] The Quarians are attacking their homeworld which is now of course owned by the Geth, you have to help one side win or maybe get them to sort their differences and then that race will be able to help in repelling the Reapers.

Another example [SPOILER] you will be wanting the Batarians help but after their general dislike of humankind and after the events of the DLC Arrival they will not be in the least bit helpful so you will have to find a way of getting them on side.
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dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6809 Days
Posted by LEBATO
What? I haven't read so many assumptions in a while,
lol! Indeed.
Posted by BLackHawkodst
looks fracking sweet graphically to me.
Ditto, bring it.
Posted by Sephiriah
Not just his squad mates but civilisations problems. EG [SPOILER] The Quarians are attacking their homeworld which is now of course owned by the Geth, you have to help one side win or maybe get them to sort their differences and then that race will be able to help in repelling the Reapers.

Another example [SPOILER] you will be wanting the Batarians help but after their general dislike of humankind and after the events of the DLC Arrival they will not be in the least bit helpful so you will have to find a way of getting them on side.
Exactly plus allot of other deep plots will be going on, but Bioware have stated that this time they will keep us in the dark even more with story details, so we will enjoy it even more whilst playing
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GrimThorne
GrimThorne
Since 6822 Days
Posted by LEBATO
What? I haven't read so many assumptions in a while,
If we were talking about the old Bioware I might concede to the point you're making but we aren't talking about the old Bioware, we're talking about EAware. And after the stupidity of Dragon Age 2, and observing DA2 writer David Gaider and lead designer Mike "apparently we're just playing the game wrong" Laidlaw both attacking gamers............................my assumptions as you call them, may already be validated.
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Not just his squad mates but civilisations problems. EG [SPOILER] The Quarians are attacking their homeworld which is now of course owned by the Geth, you have to help one side win or maybe get them to sort their differences and then that race will be able to help in repelling the Reapers.

Another example [SPOILER] you will be wanting the Batarians help but after their general dislike of humankind and after the events of the DLC Arrival they will not be in the least bit helpful so you will have to find a way of getting them on side.
Well I knew about those things and I don't consider those to be too much of a stretch. The timing of the Quarians attacking the Geth is certainly rotten, but Shepard having to rally other civilizations for the BIG BATTLE is perfectly acceptable. I mean what hero doesn't rally his allies for the final battle? What I'm talking about is Shepard recruiting and doing stupid loyalty quests for people while Earth is being harvested. If those quests are not directly related to the problem at hand then they shouldn't be worth Shepard's time.

Shepard- Earth is under attack!

Miranda- I need to go find my father.

Garrus - I need to kill somebody first.

Jack- I need to blow something else up.


The same thing for dossiers. Shepard shouldn't be picking up anyone who isn't ready to go, he also shouldn't have to play Dr Phil with his squad mates at this point. It's the 11th hour, either these people are committed to the task of taking on the Reapers or they don't belong on the Normandy. The thing is Bioware has most recently demonstrated that they're just dumb enough to do it this way.
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Doom_Bringer
Since 6273 Days
looks sweet?

man I feel sad for the console gamer without a gaming pc :(

looks like complete ass to me but at least on the PC I will be able to add some AA and run at 60 FPS
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5657 Days
Looks almost the same as ME2, almost, with a few lighting upgrades and thats it.

Oh well I tought ME2 looked great.
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GrimThorne
GrimThorne
Since 6822 Days
Posted by Doom_Bringer
looks sweet?

man I feel sad for the console gamer without a gaming pc :(

looks like complete ass to me but at least on the PC I will be able to add some AA and run at 60 FPS
Oh yeah................that'll just make something that looks like ass look so much better.
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Doom_Bringer
Since 6273 Days
helped a lot in mass effect 2 believe it or not...but just imagine Mass Effect 4 looking similar to that Unreal engine smoking guy demo...oh yea
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BLackHawkodst
BLackHawkodst
Since 5836 Days
It's looks fracking sweet! IMO and thats all that matters.
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sanex
Since 5137 Days
Got to agree it looks great, i'm playing ME2 now and its still the best looking console RPG out there imo, and i'm sure this will look great also.
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GrimThorne
GrimThorne
Since 6822 Days
Posted by Doom_Bringer
helped a lot in mass effect 2 believe it or not...but just imagine Mass Effect 4 looking similar to that Unreal engine smoking guy demo...oh yea
Well of course, we'd all be drooling right now if that were the case. And I guess I should be clear that I don't think that game looks like ass. lol.
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LEBATO
Since 7071 Days
That was just badass, this franchise is by far my favorite this gen. Thanks for posting.
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ManThatYouFear
ManThatYouFear
Since 6893 Days
Posted by Doom_Bringer
looks sweet?

man I feel sad for the console gamer without a gaming pc :(

looks like complete ass to me but at least on the PC I will be able to add some AA and run at 60 FPS
I know your just trolling but seriously, if you think this looks shit visually i highly advise you get a new hobby.
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Doom_Bringer - I have terrible taste
Doom_Bringer
Since 6273 Days
it does look like crap though...

the lighting and shader quality is very poor. I am replaying Uncharted 2 right now and that game destroys this visually...where's the SSAO? And the post processing quality is very poor as well
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sanex
Since 5137 Days
Posted by ManThatYouFear
I know your just trolling but seriously, if you think this looks shit visually i highly advise you get a new hobby.
lol... or glasses!
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dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6809 Days
Oh god NO!!! Why are EA fucking with my fav games!, fingers crossed they dont fuck it up to equal DA2 standards.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-04-mass-...
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LEBATO
Since 7071 Days
Oh crap, please not this shiat!!!! If they mess it up, I'll be done with EA for sure.
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Tinks
Tinks
Since 6879 Days
They already started down this road with Mass Effect 2


GG
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LEBATO
Since 7071 Days
Posted by Tinks
They already started down this road with Mass Effect 2


GG
I liked the changes they made, but I don't want an all out shooter which is what this is looking like.
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Sephiriah
Sephiriah
Since 6061 Days
I'm not going to bother complaining about EA because they do not care.
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dcdelgado
Since 6809 Days
I'm hoping its just a delay tactic to get the Wii2 version ready?
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GrimThorne
GrimThorne
Since 6822 Days
Posted by Sephiriah
I'm not going to bother complaining about EA because they do not care.
I hear you. I just don't know what else could be done to the game to make it more appealing to a "larger market".

Mass Effect 2-

-No Squad Companion Armor or customization
-No Inventory
-Nerfed Classes
-Smaller Skill Trees
-No Influence/Intimidation/Wisdom (RP Element)
-No Planetary Exploration
-Smaller Levels and Environments
-No stores for weapons
-No Weapon mods

This article gave me the exact opposite reaction, instead of being upset I actually laughed. What else could they do? The game is already a shell of it's former self, you couldn't do much else other than add multiplayer (one reason for the delay) or just make it an all out shooter. They've already re-booted the series in the middle of the trilogy, I can't imagine it being re-booted again just for a larger audience. Then there is the fact that there's only so much you can do to make an RPG more appealing to the shooter crowd. Most gamers who primarily play shooters admit that they don't even play the SP campaign, they go straight for the multiplayer. So when it comes to RPGs where the SP campaign is the entire driving force behind the game, how do you make this more appealing to gamers who have no desire to even finish playing a SP campaign in their favorite shooter? I don't see how you can make it more appealing to the shooter crowd without next to all role playing elements being eliminated. Anybody else see where this is going?

There of course could be another dynamic at work here that might explain Riccitiello's comments to further mass appeal the franchise. He's under increasing pressure from an EA board that's been very supportive of his decisions, but after 5 years and watching their company's stock decline 70% under his watch at $50.07-$16.18..................patience is growing thin. The company Riccitiello runs is now worth alot less than when he took over in 2007, and yet he still commands an enormous salary while other execs in the company have watched their options bleed out in an never ending decline. He's been spending hundreds of millions every quarter and most of these expansions and projects (like SWTOR) have yet to earn a penny or increase the company's value. Meanwhile EA's competitors like Activision have enjoyed watching their company's value increase and their stock go up 20%. As a few financial articles pointed out this week, it remains a mystery how Riccitiello has managed to keep his job.

What does all of this mean to Bioware and games like Mass Effect? Well it's not very hard to imagine is it? Mass Effect has been leaning in the direction of full fledged shooter, a simple shove completes the fall. It's not hard to imagine a fired Riccitiello and a dissolved Bioware if SWTOR doesn't perform well either. A new CEO would be inclined to clean up the mess and move the company towards profit making, that means cutting off dead weight. It's funny and depressing at the same time because it's like a train wreck that's happening in slow motion and everybody on board is just singing and laughing while each car in front of them is decimated.

I've given up. Whatever happens, just happens. But I do hope for Bioware's sake that SWTOR does well.
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