New Too Human Media Blowout!

Since 6988 Days

Posted by mkk316

The only real issue i have with TH is the right analoge being used for melee attacks.

unless I read previews wrong, I believe most said that it was well implemented and felt right once they got the hang of it.

Posted by Optimus

You are even worse than the bad buy from 300 all he required was for you to kneel, but nooo you want a ps3 too. :)

he was a big softy, thus why he got his face cut

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Optimusv2

Since 6905 Days

Well pretty much if Too Human is a quality game we will find that out when we play it. Even with the analog stick controls if it's a quality game people will be able to tell that.

The right analog stick I think is totally redeemed by the RPG elements. I mean I was once a world of warcraft addict and the combat in that game to me was as enjoyable as the combat in any game out there be it ninja gaiden or devil may cry and it had a lot to do with the depth to the skill trees and I just never got over the feeling of putting equipping some cool new item. Too Human appears to be leaning in the direction to do such a thing so only time will tell.

I think what SK is attempting to bring together in this game is a recipe for success they just need to nail it and its looking good so far with polishing needed in places.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

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Freniger

Since 7029 Days

It's making progress, but I still think this game is going to be a trainwreck, especially considering its massive budget. I highly doubt they're going to finish the trilogy.

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Ronsauce

Since 6998 Days

Posted by Optimusv2

I mean I was once a world of warcraft addict and the combat in that game to me was as enjoyable as the combat in any game out there be it ninja gaiden or devil may cry and it had a lot to do with the depth to the skill trees and I just never got over the feeling of putting equipping some cool new item.

...but how much better would WoW have been if in addition to the skill trees and items, combat was actually like NG's or DMC's(not necessarily as deep, but more than point'n'click + skill/spell management)?

Posted by Freniger

It's making progress, but I still think this game is going to be a trainwreck, especially considering its massive budget. I highly doubt they're going to finish the trilogy.

I'd like for it to be great and succeed and all that jazz, but I'm with you on this.

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LEBATO

Since 7135 Days

"If you look at Too Human as an action game, you'll probably find that it doesn't meet your expectations. But if you look at it as an immersive dungeon crawler, then the issues will probably be less noticeable."

It's not my fault they still are selling the game as an action game. WTF do they expect?

Regardless, I don't know their excuse for horrible animations everywhere (cutscenes are barely passable I guess), horrible shadowing, special fx, and particles (fire looks downright awful, but I guess that qualifies as a texture as it is closer to a sprite than anything else).

All they really have to do is as simple as having a jungle in the Sahara. Basically, a complete makeover for some of this crap. Oh, and perhaps change the game description at the official site, 'cause that talks about an action game. I think it's downright ridiculous the information they gave vendors, take ebgames for example.

"Fight as the powerful cybernetic god Baldur battling his way through enemy armies"

"From weaponry and armor to combat techniques and combos"

"Explosive melee and firearms combat."

"Utilize a sophisticated blend of seamless melee and firearms combat to vanquish foes near and far."

"Experience the full excitement of combat through a dynamically driven presentation system that portrays the combat with cinematic quality."

"New level of accessibility through intuitive combat. Perform Baldur’s elaborate and complex combat maneuvers through the press of a button and chain together hundreds of rapid-fire attacks and combos with ease. Through the use of an intuitive combat system, “Too Human” delivers gameplay that is easy to learn and rewarding to master. “Too Human” will introduce combinations of weapons combat on a level that exceeds some fighting games, leaving players in awe."

Is it really my fault that I was expecting something else? Did you see the that last paragraph? WTF is this travesty?

It seems like in mid development they said, "you know what our action game sucks, now let's have the RPG elements take over and say it's an RPG with action elements"

Blah, I guess some of you may enjoy that, but not me--at least not the way it is. Why can't it be both? Why is it so hard to make it at least decent in combat? I'm not asking for an incredibly deep combat system, I just want something that is a bit less of an awful bunch of cut in half animations that really convey no sense of.....action, nothing, the whole gameplay aside from the RPG elements looks pretty much broken.

I'm not writing off this game yet, they have some time, but I'm not holding my breath. They've had soooooo long and it looks like every week the game is fixed in some way and broken in others. I still think it's too early for them to be showing Too Human, it is once again doing more damage than good with a lot of people.

I would even take Conan's combat system than what I'm seeing right now, and believe me, I thought Conan was BAD!

@Denis Dyack and his interview

You get tired to play Ninja Gaiden? LOL. I'm tired of your damn excuses, now that's tiring. "My game is misunderstood!" Not my fault fool.

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"If you look at Too Human as an action game, you'll probably find that it doesn't meet your expectations. But if you look at it as an immersive dungeon crawler, then the issues will probably be less noticeable."

It's not my fault they still are selling the game as an action game.  WTF do they expect?

Regardless, I don't know their excuse for horrible animations everywhere (cutscenes are barely passable I guess), horrible shadowing, special fx, and particles (fire looks downright awful, but I guess that qualifies as a texture as it is closer to a sprite than anything else).

All they really have to do is as simple as having a jungle in the Sahara.  Basically, a complete makeover for some of this crap. Oh, and perhaps change the game description at the official site, 'cause that talks about an action game.  I think it's downright ridiculous the information they gave vendors, take ebgames for example.

"Fight as the powerful cybernetic god Baldur battling his way through enemy armies"

"From weaponry and armor to [b]combat techniques and combos[/b]"

"Explosive [b]melee and firearms combat.[/b]"

"Utilize a sophisticated blend of seamless [b] melee and firearms combat to vanquish foes near and far[/b]."

"Experience the full [b]excitement of combat[/b] through a dynamically driven presentation system that portrays the [b]combat [/b] with cinematic quality."

"New level of accessibility through [b]intuitive combat[/b]. [b]Perform Baldur’s elaborate and complex combat maneuvers through the press of a button and chain together hundreds of rapid-fire attacks and combos with ease. Through the use of an intuitive combat system, “Too Human” delivers gameplay that is easy to learn and rewarding to master. “Too Human” will introduce combinations of weapons combat on a level that exceeds some fighting games, leaving players in awe."[/b]

Is it really my fault that I was expecting something else?  Did you see the that last paragraph?   WTF is this travesty?

It seems like in mid development they said, "you know what our action game sucks, now let's have the RPG elements take over and say it's an RPG with action elements"

Blah, I guess some of you may enjoy that, but not me--at least not the way it is.  Why can't it be both?  Why is it so hard to make it at least decent in combat?  I'm not asking for an incredibly deep combat system, I just want something that is a bit less of an awful bunch of cut in half animations that really convey no sense of.....action, nothing, the whole gameplay aside from the RPG elements looks pretty much broken.

I'm not writing off this game yet, they have some time, but I'm not holding my breath.  They've had soooooo long and it looks like every week the game is fixed in some way and broken in others.  I still think it's too early for them to be showing Too Human, it is once again doing more damage than good with a lot of people.

I would even take Conan's combat system than what  I'm seeing right now, and believe me, I thought Conan was BAD!

@Denis Dyack and his interview

You get tired to play Ninja Gaiden?  LOL.  I'm tired of your damn excuses, now that's tiring.  "My game is misunderstood!" Not my fault fool.

Mods, stop changing my SIG! I'm going to end up banning you!

Ronsauce

Since 6998 Days

Posted by LEBATO

A bunch of stuff about TH

I agree with everything wholeheartedly...except the Conan stuff. Bad? Nah....Badass? Hell yeah! :P

Seriously...when Conan's animation is not only better but destroys the animation in your game, something's definitely wrong.

TH also looks like it suffers from lacking any sense of weight to its combat. I'd wonder if that was a result of the poor animation, but HS had the same shortcoming despite great animation.

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Optimusv2

Since 6905 Days

lol guess it's bout that time to add him to ignore tired of hearing the same crap over and over about every other game. :)

Ron that would be awesome for a game to have wow's depth and devil may cry and ninja gaiden combat, but I don't know how practical that is. According to Gamespot there are thousands of weapons I can't see anyone putting in that much animation work to be honest :/

Lair looked like a trainwork the entire time it was in development to me and never looked good once. This game on the otherhand admittedly started out looking like a trainwreck, but it looks to be well on the path to redeeming itself. I originally thought the rpg elements would be just a bullet point for the game, but they are over-delivering there I think. Will have to see how the rest ends up it is afterall a 2008 title. I don't expect too much to change, but I do expect improvements and its looking good to me thus far.

I think a large part of the backlash here is that Too Human turns out to not be the type of game some people here were expecting and now that it's fully revealed people refuse to accept it and as a result have lost interest. I knew since the IGN showing it would end not mattering how good or bad this game looked I knew some people weren't going to like it.

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lol guess it's bout that time to add him to ignore tired of hearing the same crap over and over about every other game. :)

Ron that would be awesome for a game to have wow's depth and devil may cry and ninja gaiden combat, but I don't know how practical that is.  According to Gamespot there are thousands of weapons I can't see anyone putting in that much animation work to be honest :/

Lair looked like a trainwork the entire time it was in development to me and never looked good once.  This game on the otherhand admittedly started out looking like a trainwreck, but it looks to be well on the path to redeeming itself.  I originally thought the rpg elements would be just a bullet point for the game, but they are over-delivering there I think.  Will have to see how the rest ends up it is afterall a 2008 title.  I don't expect too much to change, but I do expect improvements and its looking good to me thus far.

I think a large part of the backlash here is that Too Human turns out to not be the type of game some people here were expecting and now that it's fully revealed people refuse to accept it and as a result have lost interest.  I knew since the IGN showing it would end not mattering how good or bad this game looked I knew some people weren't going to like it.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

kenshin2418

Since 6988 Days

lol Optimus don't take it so seriously. Nothing wrong with being critical and having a high standard. Be glad you weren't a musician who had to work under Johann Sebastian Bach. He laughs at Lebato, who also will be a General in my army :p

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Optimusv2

Since 6905 Days

I just think its ridiculous that someone would so obviously ignore what the game actually is time and time again and continue to call it something its not who cares if they talk up their game's combat with fancy marketing talk? Who takes that stuff literally?

I'm pretty sure I could find many other examples of a developer or publisher talking up or overexaggerating aspects of their game to make it sound more amazing. People do that all the time. Normally people don't take them all literally. I mean imagine what factor 5 said about lair? What did midway say about stranglehold? It comes with the territory. We know what SK use to say about Too Human and now we see what they are saying now and we actually have videos to make us see what it is. It's an RPG with action elements gotta move on. Anyway thats my last comment about that if some new footage shows up I'll comment then :)

Wish we got some full cutscenes :(

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

kenshin2418

Since 6988 Days

Posted by dcdelgado

Love this Video!

http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/5687/Exclu...

weird, the combat looks a bit better in that video. Still needs more work I think, but it did look a bit better to me.

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Optimusv2

Since 6905 Days

:D

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

Sath

Since 6879 Days

they werent bullshitting when they said many armor with tons of different pieces and colors.

Well I know how I want to make my armor.

Its a mix between the "iconic" Baldur and the N7 armor from Mass Effect.

All black armor with a different color on the lines and such :D.

Anyway, cool stuff Ops.
Now imagine that and a lot more through DLC :D

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Optimusv2

Since 6905 Days

Posted by Sath

they werent bullshitting when they said many armor with tons of different pieces and colors.

Well I know how I want to make my armor.

Its a mix between the "iconic" Baldur and the N7 armor from Mass Effect.

All black armor with a different color on the lines and such :D.

Anyway, cool stuff Ops.
Now imagine that and a lot more through DLC :D

There is a lot more than those shown in the game that will ship. Those are just the 20 that SK feel they have exactly as they'd want them to look so they are showing those off pretty much.

And I'm assuming this is a boss in the game

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

kenshin2418

Since 6988 Days

Posted by Optimusv2

And I'm assuming this is a boss in the game

nah, it's just going to be a cutscene, just like in Gears

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Optimusv2

Since 6905 Days

Posted by kenshin2418

nah, it's just going to be a cutscene, just like in Gears

Clearly the boss probably wouldn't look that badass during actual gameplay, but I expect the boss battles to be like boss battles in World of Warcraft. Go up against a gigantic enemy and take him on no different than how you'd take on the normal enemies except of course the boss will be much more difficult to kill.

I expect them to toss in one of those moments like how Baldur climbs up on that big troll like enemy with the hammer.

I'll be very interested in seeing what kinds of tricks they have up their sleeves. Another thing I really enjoyed about these videos is the scene I saw in the teamxbox vid where it appears Baldur was after someone the same size as him the guy had one eye it appears. Thats what I like to see them toss a bunch of quests at us, but tie some nicely into the game's story.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

Sath

Since 6879 Days

First, WOW at that image, second of of all...hahahaha @Kenshin
If Dyack want epic story with epic battles and such, he HAVE to add that enemy as a gameplay boss, would be awesome.

Ps. I want that poster in my room :D

PS2. Op, the armor I was thinking is already showned off :D
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/...
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/...

Thats the type of armor I like in most "sci-fi armor wearing games".
Damn Crysis for that nano suit, damn it! :D

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szaromir

Since 6769 Days

I think Too Human right now seems like a game I would like to play. There will be a demo so I'll definitely try it. But they should lock it at 30fps both in gameplay and cutscenes if they want a truely immersive experience.

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kenshin2418

Since 6988 Days

also, I too want that poster too. It reminds me of SOTC.

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Sath

Since 6879 Days

Posted by kenshin2418

also, I too want that poster too. It reminds me of SOTC.

SOTC?

Shadow of the Colussus.

It reminds me of that as well, and God of War, but cooler :P

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Optimusv2

Since 6905 Days

From what I found out it appears actual gameplay performance is for the most part not a concern and locked down at 30 the vast majority of the time with only minor instances where it dips slightly below that. The real trouble spot performance wise right now appears to be the cutscenes. Those have the most slowdown thus far from what I've seen, but they have plenty of time to take care of it so hoping for the best there.

I agree szaromir this is of course reminding me of why I liked World of Warcraft so much, but I simply didn't have the time for it considering other than all the cool stuff you collect it just keeps going nonstop. Now Too Human I'm very excited about the same things that made me become hooked to WOW, but then there is the unique take on Norse Mythology to think about and the glimpses we've gotten thus far for how SK appears to be handling this game storywise look pretty good to me thus far, but still need to see much more.

As some others have said though if Eternal Darkness is any indication then I suppose we shouldn't be worried and SK is one of those devs that take their stories very seriously so probably it makes no sense to worry about that. They've said before they've had the story planned out well in advance and I'm sure with time things probably got better. All in all really looking forward to this one.

I think they've actually yet to show us one of the giants and the closest they've come to talking about one thus far is probably Jormungandr the World Serpent.

Yea that poster should definitely be included with the game. Yea Sath that armor is incredible.

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From what I found out it appears actual gameplay performance is for the most part not a concern and locked down at 30 the vast majority of the time with only minor instances where it dips slightly below that.  The real trouble spot performance wise right now appears to be the cutscenes.  Those have the most slowdown thus far from what I've seen, but they have plenty of time to take care of it so hoping for the best there.

I agree szaromir this is of course reminding me of why I liked World of Warcraft so much, but I simply didn't have the time for it considering other than all the cool stuff you collect it just keeps going nonstop.  Now Too Human I'm very excited about the same things that made me become hooked to WOW, but then there is the unique take on Norse Mythology to think about and the glimpses we've gotten thus far for how SK appears to be handling this game storywise look pretty good to me thus far, but still need to see much more.

As some others have said though if Eternal Darkness is any indication then I suppose we shouldn't be worried and SK is one of those devs that take their stories very seriously so probably it makes no sense to worry about that.  They've said before they've had the story planned out well in advance and I'm sure with time things probably got better.  All in all really looking forward to this one.

I think they've actually yet to show us one of the giants and the closest they've come to talking about one thus far is probably Jormungandr the World Serpent.

Yea that poster should definitely be included with the game.  Yea Sath that armor is incredible.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

kenshin2418

Since 6988 Days

Posted by Sath

SOTC?

Shadow of the Colussus.

It reminds me of that as well, and God of War, but cooler :P

Of course :)

wait, cooler than GOW and SOTC?

*slowly cracks knuckles..... but hurts hand in process*

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Sath

Since 6879 Days

Posted by kenshin2418

Of course :)

wait, cooler than GOW and SOTC?

*slowly cracks knuckles..... but hurts hand in process*

Haha I got you in pain.

But seriously, I like the art very much, and that it reminds me of big enemy battles from God of War and SOTC its a good thing.

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ManThatYouFear

Since 6956 Days

Posted by mkk316

The only real issue i have with TH is the right analoge being used for melee attacks.

Worked a treat in grabbed by the ghoulies

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ManThatYouFear

Since 6956 Days

"1st one is exclusive" ...damn

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Sath

Since 6879 Days

Doon't know if posted but here it is, screens.
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/toohuman/im...

This game has alot of cool helmets, very Crysis-ish style to a few of them, I like it.
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/287/revi...
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/287/revi...
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/287/revi...

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