http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/698/698008p1.htmlAmazing how it's now become an RPG game now.


The War has begun

"in reply to Sath"

Hey, i'm with you guys!!, TH is already on my must buy list, Mass Effect has taught me that no matter what all the doom bringers say, if you see the game coming together and looking more and more solid every showing, its got a great chance of being a stella title on release.

Well I guess we are the holy trinity then...me, DC and Op..the Fantastic Trinity :P

Those people who are keep asking if it is a action game or RPG are just being an ass for asking it again.
Like how many times does Dyack have to say that it has deep RPG elements in a action game, so its a hybrid of best worlds if you ask me.

Here listening to 1up yours podcast and Shane is talking about the game. He sounds legitimately impressed and excited about this game. He sounds a lot more excited than I expected him to be about the game.

I think if I remember one of shane's quote was "just immeasurable depth that I didn't expect at all"

Seemed shocked by the depth to which the rpg elements go in the game. He said direct quote from Denis that there are hundreds and thousands of items. Shane played for like an hour and 20 minutes and was surprised by all the items he got in that point in time so he actually believes what they told him about the number of items.

He said the framerate looks solid. He had a problem with the camera at times and he said there didn't see to be too much enemy variety from what he played, but from the sounds of it when he mentioned that to Denis he appears confident enemy variety wont be a problem at all likely suggesting there is much more that hasn't been shown.

Another thing that stood out to me was Shane said that the storytelling really surprised him and was a lot better than he expected it to be and that caught him off guard or something like that. It wasn't a bunch of really long cutscenes, but it was well presented you'd see different segments or flashbacks detailing the backstory and he really enjoyed seeing those. Says its really multi-layered.

He said cutscenes as good as Heavenly Sword or graphics (especially character heads) are Mass Effect calibur he believes.

The entire 1 hour and 20 minutes he played there wasn't a single sign of loading (which is pretty damn impressive)

The engine as of now is 100% ground up as of now.

Gun combat when used in conjunction with the right stick Shane says without a doubt feels exactly like geometry wars. He also believes all the turmoil the game has been through is actually making it turn out to be a much better game.

Shanes direct quote

"At the end of the day the many delays that have hit Too Human have not buried it and I think the negative press, the poison press that continues swirling on message boards all over the world is not indicative and when the demo's out there and you can really see it for yourself a lot of the hate is gonna dissipate."

All around Shane sounds impressed and what is rather bizarre is that he thinks SK could get the first Too Human out in March next year and a sequel by November the same year?? I don't know unless he saw something extra up there.

Also good news is that Shane said Denis sees lots of problems in the current build that he doesn't like and he seems extremely intent on fixing them which is a good thing cause it didn't seem to me that Shane noticed as many as Denis was making it seem.

Shane feels pretty confident that there is nothing like Too Human on consoles and he also thinks all the extra time they've had to work on this game (which normally seems to hurt some games) didn't hurt Too Human and believes the game is better as a result.

Haha Shane said Denis compared himself to James Cameron hahah :)

Ultimately I love what I heard that 1up yours podcast is definitely a must listen for people that actually have this game on their radar.


http://www.1up.com/do/minisite?cId=3149993

Link to show here.

Yea I see that kenshin he called it an action game, but with how many times he has said the contrary since the blowout I would hope people aren't going to cling to that comment as the law, but that would maybe be hoping for too much. Shane's Direct quote from Denis on the 1up yours podcast says clearly it isn't an action game like Devil May Cry at all. What Denis and other developers HAVE said though is that for people that want to play it as a pure action game by going around and killing things they definitely can so thats probably what he means.

"You know, people who look at it will immediately see it as an action game."

Yea no arguing that most people WILL instantly see it as an action game, but thankfully its more than that. I can say without a doubt were Too Human a straight up action game like ninja gaiden or dmc4 I don't think I'd be as excited as I am for it now. There are enough god of war, devil may cry or ninja gaiden wannabes out there. I want something different and Too Human is exactly that. I mean when people pick up and play Too Human they'll be able to say that there isn't another console game that is like this. Too Human holds its own corner.

that's all fine and dandy, but at it's core, it still is an action game. That's like me making a racing game with DEEP shooter elements, then trying to parade it off as a shooter. Still, I like you and Optimus, so I'll stop being an ass and just drop it :P

I would probably notice it if Dyack gave me the same demo :P

But yeah i always thought Shane was the next Lebato...always putting it down if a game isn't perfect :D

I also read that Dyack said the first TH will be released in March...but second one in the same year...do NOT do that.

People who will buy TH won't be able to "pimp the Baldur" by the next one comes out.

I say, atleast early 2009 or something, a decent time to release second one.

Yeah it is an action game, but it still have deep RPG elements.

You can do shit in DMC or God of War or NG in terms of visual upgraded, combat upgrades...etc. like in Too Human.

if i see that posted one more time ...someone is going to die.

Well remember Sath Denis did always say they were working on multiple versions at once, but I imagine with the engine issues they had it likely put a wrench in their plans and they possibly had to concentrate all resources on the first game. Shane says Denis is still really confident they can all make the 360 release the only one that seems to be in question is the third. If the 360 ceases to be a viable option then Microsoft's next console will be the target.

I actually kinda hope the third Too Human misses the 360 now lol. Would be pretty awesome to see how the game end on a next gen xbox. God of War for instance I know is going to benefit like crazy from finishing the trilogy on the PS3.

Oh and another thing I just remembered from Shane's comments he said at certain points in cutscenes he noticed some funny things that people normally complain about and he himself complains about which are certain cutscene animations, but he says considering the style of game and the depth he saw in the rpg aspects the animations are more than sufficient from his point of view.

Shane seems certain of a demo 1 or 2 months before release because at this point it's obvious SK has to put out a demo no way around it. I'd love if they gave us an hours worth of gameplay like they did for the demo those guys got. Shane practically guaranteed a march release not sure about that, but we'll see.

Yeah i watched the video interview (as much as i hate Shane!), and yet more positives, all great stuff!

All I was at least trying to say was that it's still is an action game at its core, and technically it isn't wrong for people to compare it to other action games. Yes, it's doing things other action games haven't come close to, we all know that. But that still doesn't give it a free pass card towards criticism because of it. I only criticize because I love. I am kind :)

Also, my Forza 2 thread sense is tingling :p

Shane refers to Too Human as a passion project for SK. According to him he says I believe when he spoke to denis there was talk of the devs on the team having looked at comments and at times wondered to themselves if they were making a bad game due to the sheer amount of negativity about it, but they got over that and erased such thoughts from their head and just focused on the fact that they are building a game they really care about and they wont stand for it not turning out great.

Thats the kind of thing I like to hear :) It shows that the negative buzz has been driving them harder to deliver with the game. Normally not a big Shane fan myself, but even he says he believes they are going to deliver whenever it gets off track they pull it right back cause they're putting their heart into the game.

LOL mark made a fake bioware Press Release about them making a halo game and even had quotes from Peter Jackson haha.

Well I do agree that it is an action game at its core...DO NOT READ ManThatYouFear...with very deep RPG elements were it effects the gameplay ALOT.

I guess the only genre to put it its action/RPG really, theres nothing more to comment on it...but comparing it to other PURE action games like DMC, God of War and Ninja Gaiden is wrong. They are heavily focused on pure action, different buttons, combos...etc.

The only game I can think of were they blend in action and RPG quite well is Mass Effect and Phantasy Star Universe with different settings, combat styles...etc. of course.

Too Human has combos, special attacks, DT moves, etc, no? I will agree this argument is getting pointless though. I'm getting tired of typing the same thing lol, and I'm sure you are as well. Agree to disagree for now

*hops in batmobile, but realizes Optimus has slashed his tires and Sath has stolen his gas*

I see you all got the last laugh after all :(

Well it is getting to the "pointless" factor yes, but I do agree with you how it is turning out, but to some extend though, and thats where we go seperate ways.

And no I didn't take your gas...I mixed with your breaks...die!!! :P

Praise from Shane at 1Up? Holy shit!

Home Alone looks different than I remember it!

Yea it doesn't matter what its defined as. If its good its good. haha kenshin i never get tired of that gif lol.

I've been offline for a while but is there any info about the snotmonster armour? Looks freaky as hell!

Whoa... the game looks sick on 1up show!

And damn Too Human 2 really is pretty far along it seems.

for the record not saying that shot is too human 2. Just a scene I loved from the 1up show.

hahahaha brilliant comment :D

Haha Op nobody would believe you even if you said it was from Too Human 2 haha ;)

The music in the 1Up show segment is phenomenal, nice and drum heavy. Could be the second game soundtrack I buy ever!