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TheBeagle
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Yup its all value, value, value. I hope that this game sells a shit load of copys when the price goes down cause right now I'm having so much fun with it online but there just aint enough people on it.
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  • 03/06/2007 à 12:25:55
Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
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Games sell the most in their first 2 months and taper off very quickly thereafter. If it doesn't sell well now it won't sell well at all, even at a lower price unless MS did something drastic -- like value packin, game combos, large LIVE promotion, etc... which begs the question: Why no Live demo?

Seriously MS killed this title and the value/reviews only put nails in the coffin commercially. It sounds like what there is solid though.
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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."

  • 03/06/2007 à 13:45:38
TheBeagle
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Well the demo is meant to be coming out on wednesday. I think this game would of benefited in sales if the demo had come out before the games release. The game is extremely fun but the price point is going to turn way to many people off. Hopefully this demo will turn some heads.

The only way that it really though, is if the demo has all the training levels and a few multiplayer maps.
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  • 03/06/2007 à 14:05:52
deftangel - Hot stuff!
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You wonder given how anemic the content is reportedly why Microsoft didn't turn it into a downloadable title like Sony did with Warhawk. Would have made sense, the likely audience weren't going to be those with Core systems.

Hell even do a pack in with a hard drive if that's an issue.

There were many ways this situation could have been retrieved. A cheap access disc and some premium DLC would have gone down much better than $60 for whats there now.

Then I guess with Halo 3 shipping in September there wasn't much time given how long it took FASA to make the maps they do have.

I'll still try it out though.
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  • 03/06/2007 à 14:37:12
TheBeagle
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I think the game being downloadable would have done it wonders.
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  • 03/06/2007 à 16:05:03
GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
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Posté par TheBeagle
The only way that it really though, is if the demo has all the training levels and a few multiplayer maps.
Yup.. I can actually see the demo working against the final product if they don't do it correctly. This isn't a game that you can just thrust Xbox live gamers into and expect them to get it. Tutorial is a must.
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  • 03/06/2007 à 17:25:09
KORNdog
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Posté par GriftGFX
Yup.. I can actually see the demo working against the final product if they don't do it correctly. This isn't a game that you can just thrust Xbox live gamers into and expect them to get it. Tutorial is a must.
if it has all that then the full retail is almost pointless, they cant give too much to negate the worth of the final product, but too little wont attract any consumers. its a bit iffy. maybe a demo that consisted of almost the full game, or maybe even the full game, but make the demo only last a couple of days or a week. that not only gives the player time to get used to it, but also gives them enough time to like it, and want it.
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  • 03/06/2007 à 21:34:47
GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
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I'm pretty sure a tutorial and a single level wouldn't negate the value of the full retail product.. if they throw people into this game without instruction and cooperative teammates than people aren't going to get a good impression of their game. Hopefully a single map, a tutorial, and the ability to play against bots is all present in this weeks demo.
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  • 03/06/2007 à 23:49:34
Julukku
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Shadowrun being downloadable wouldn't boost sales, not everyone has fast broadbands. And then there's the ones that have only a memory card? Adding an option on downloading it would be good though.
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  • 04/06/2007 à 13:40:11
PlumbDrumb - Still drinking
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Wow, to think I was actually looking forward to this game :/
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Hold on tight to the leather couch

  • 05/06/2007 à 15:47:59
GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
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I'm still looking forward to trying it. I've already convinced myself to give this one a solid chance.. I hope the demo they release (tomorrow?) is a good indication of the overall product. They'd be stupid to release a lacking demo for something that's pretty much destined to fall through the cracks.
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  • 05/06/2007 à 15:51:20
TheBeagle
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Posté par PlumbDrumb
Wow, to think I was actually looking forward to this game :/
Well its good....So you weren't being irrational.
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  • 05/06/2007 à 16:59:29
PlumbDrumb - Still drinking
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Maybe I should rephrase my comment to say "Wow, to think I was actually looking forward to buying this game"

I can't spend that kind of dough on 9 maps, and missing animations and such.
Just can't do it.

I'll play it at my bro's house (he's got a better screen anyway)
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Hold on tight to the leather couch

  • 05/06/2007 à 17:06:05
TheBeagle
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I think people are over - reacting to the ladder animation thing.
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  • 05/06/2007 à 18:20:23
Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
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IGN's review pretty much sums it up: some good gameplay stuff sprinkled among some average stuff and everything outside of that is pretty horrible.
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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."

  • 05/06/2007 à 18:49:00
LEBATO - IS WRONG
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"True, there's no online shooter quite like Shadowrun, but that doesn't mean there are not five or six better options already available."

Hmn.......I heard that before from someone else.
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  • 06/06/2007 à 02:36:45
GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
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Posté par LEBATO
"True, there's no online shooter quite like Shadowrun, but that doesn't mean there are not five or six better options already available."

Hmn.......I heard that before from someone else.
Yes we read it first in your in depth review! Thanks! I also liked the part where they compared it to Big Rigs. ;P
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I think people are over - reacting to the ladder animation thing.
..is that seriously what people are on about?
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  • 06/06/2007 à 03:40:24
LEBATO - IS WRONG
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Posté par GriftGFX
Yes we read it first in your in depth review! Thanks! I also liked the part where they compared it to Big Rigs. ;P
Oh crap, that's true. Though I have to say when it comes to imagination you are the best. It wasn't a review, and I don't see the comparison to Big Rigs.
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  • 06/06/2007 à 03:48:00
GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
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Posté par LEBATO
Oh crap, that's true. Though I have to say when it comes to imagination you are the best. It wasn't a review, and I don't see the comparison to Big Rigs.
Sarcasm, and just kidding around.. which is me being nice. And there's a big difference from that statement to one declaring a product you've never touched to be complete crap.. and no, please don't bring up Big Rigs again.

But it's okay, we'll all know just how right you were tomorrow.
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  • 06/06/2007 à 03:49:20
TheBeagle
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Posté par GriftGFX
..is that seriously what people are on about?
Yes. Other than that, there aren't any animations missing that I have noticed anyway.

What was the purpose of posting that exactly, Lebato ?
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  • 06/06/2007 à 03:52:24
GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
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I'm surprised more people aren't interested in this game. You can be a TROLL! ;)
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  • 06/06/2007 à 03:53:45
LEBATO - IS WRONG
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Posté par GriftGFX
I'm surprised more people aren't interested in this game. You can be a TROLL! ;)
Posté par TheBeagle
What was the purpose of posting that exactly, Lebato ?
Just to see who would ask I suppose. What is the purpose of you asking me that?

Actually, what is the purpose of me being in this thread? I don't know, I'll be heading out. Playing around with the mods can get you burned :D

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  • 06/06/2007 à 03:59:06
TheBeagle
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Well I wondered, because I'd like to believe it was merely so you could brag about your ability to predict IGN reviews. Somehow I doubt it's that. More likely to piss off people who actually are enjoying the game.
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  • 06/06/2007 à 04:01:14
GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
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Demo will be out at 2am PDT tomorrow, June 7th. Sounds like it's very stripped down compared to the total package, but at least it has tutorials in tact and should hopefully give people a decent idea of what this game is all about.

I hope party match making is in as well. Playing with your friends is always going to enhance the experience of playing a team shooter, especially one that so heavily relies on team work.
Shadowrun Demo FAQ - Updated 05 June 07

Q: Are you doing a demo for both 360 and Vista?
A: We're definitely doing a 360 downloadable demo. We haven't announced a Vista one.

Q: When will the demo come out?
A: 07 June 07 at 2am PDT. How's that for specific?

Q: What features will be in the demo?
A: We want to give players a good sense of what makes Shadowrun different / fun, but we can't give away everything, of course. The feature set we're offering is limited, but there are no time restrictions on the demo. Here's what you get:

* Training: Chapters 1, 2, and 3
* Solo Match and Public Match (so both bot play and multiplayer)
* One map: Power Station (which means only one game type: Raid)
* Two races: Elf and Human
* Magic: Tree of Life, Resurrect, Gust, and Teleport
* Tech: Glider, Enhanced Vision, and Smartlink
* Weapons: Pistol, SMG, Rifle, Shotgun, Katana, and Sniper Rifle

Q: Will the demo be playable outside of the US?
A: Yes! US, Canada, Mexico, much of Europe, and even some parts of Asia. And it is localized. We think Shadowrun sounds really cool in Chinese, especially.

Q: How long will the demo be available?
A: We don't have an expiration date at the moment. We'll update when we have one.

Q: I have a question that's not covered here. What do I do?
A: Post on the forums. If the question hasn't been answered already, we'll try to cover it.
Hopefully this demo doesn't sway me away from giving the retail edition a fair try!
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  • 06/06/2007 à 23:13:55
Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19057894/

Another review, positive about core gameplay with the same caveats about being fleshed out and such.
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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."

  • 06/06/2007 à 23:14:56
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