Soul Calibur 4 meets Star Wars

SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Since 7023 Days
Link made some kind of sense. EA and Konami have both consistently used Nintendo characters in their Gamecube releases, and especially in the context of people clamouring for teen link in light of Wind Waker, I just think it was a great way to capitalise on a fun idea.

It could be that I just don't like Spawn - because I don't - and lord knows I don't like Heihachi (I've no idea who does) but those characters felt incredibly forced and incredibly unimaginative respectively. I'm sure a truckload of people could think of iconic characters way more suitable for a Link-like appeal on those platforms.

This Star Wars business frankly just boggles my mind. It's like every reason for not chucking "license" characters in there has been used AS reason for including them here. They have no connection to either platform, no connection to the context they're presented in, and are barely of any significance for GAMERS at all, most likely they're just associated with all the horrible attempts at representing Star Wars in games.

But then, to give these characters an equally fair shot - I'm not particularly more fond of either than of Spawn and Heihachi, so perhaps I'm just biased. Jack Bauer in SC would be just as "WHAT THEEE HEEEEEEELL!!??" but.. I'd still pick that version up for the insanity of it - and Jack Bauer is awesome.

In regards to SC's integrity; what integrity? SC4 is the most blatantly tittied up attention fest since... I can't even remember. Rumble Roses I suppose. Whatever balance merits it once posessed it deserted with SC, becoming a direct-to-videogame fighting franchise for the masses, so I really don't see what they can screw up further with this. It's still gonna be a really cool, fun fighting game in which everyone's free to ignore Vader or Yoda.

It's just that now the superficial reasons to find it embarassing have increased by about 400%, ironically just as DOA is sobering up.

*puts on helmet as Grift readies bricks*
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7000 Days
Posted by SimonM7
Link made some kind of sense.
Not really. No bricks necessary.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 6866 Days
Posted by SimonM7
but.. I'd still pick that version up for the insanity of it - and Jack Bauer is awesome.
Bauer FTW :P
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Archaos
Archaos
Since 6981 Days
I don't see anything wrong with this, It's just a bit of fun.

I am disappointed that the characters are being split between the consoles. No Vader versus Yoda now :(

Also am I the only one who actually liked the Spartan in DOA4?
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6883 Days
I didn't dislike the look of the Spartan but she was slow and clunky and pretty unplayable.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 6866 Days
Posted by Jollipop
I didn't dislike the look of the Spartan but she was slow and clunky and pretty unplayable.
Better than that stupid ass Bass or whatever his name is, the biker punk.

Although I didn't have any problem having just fun with the other two "big guys" the one with camo and the other commando guy.

Me and Iso played it like if it was Rambo vs Maximus, considering the guy with desert camo had a outfit as the gladiators, was so fun.
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NeoNemesis
NeoNemesis
Since 6712 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
Or how about Master Chief in DOA4? lol?
Its not MC, its Kelly from one of the books, or Linda. That character did have a female voice.
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SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Since 7023 Days
Well I thought there'd be some bricks involved with my statements that SC has slacked off in the balance department. :D

But hey, no bricks and I can wear my hair down. Which is still up and all over, but.. yeah.

Mario characters in NBA Street, SSX: On Tour and Stepmania "make no sense" either by your measure, but I still think "Nintendoing up" games on their platforms has more logic to it than sticking Vader or Spawn in there.
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KORNdog
KORNdog
Since 6404 Days
Posted by SimonM7
Well I thought there'd be some bricks involved with my statements that SC has slacked off in the balance department. :D

But hey, no bricks and I can wear my hair down. Which is still up and all over, but.. yeah.

Mario characters in NBA Street, SSX: On Tour and Stepmania "make no sense" either by your measure, but I still think "Nintendoing up" games on their platforms has more logic to it than sticking Vader or Spawn in there.
i thought spawn worked well (although didnt fit in visually as well as the other 2), and they at least changed heihachi's look to suit the game (despite having no weapons he was still a worthy character imo) and link obviously worked since he looks like he's shops at the same store the soul calibur guys do anyway.

personally im all for "gimmick" characters in games as long as they fit....mrs master chief didnt fit stylistically in DOA and so i didnt like that addition. mario doesnt fit stylistically in SSX, so i didnt like it, and now vader and yoda dont fit in stylistically in SC4.

if they look right, then im fine with it. if they stick out like a sore thumb then i'd rather they not be there at all.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 6866 Days
Posted by NeoNemesis
Its not MC, its Kelly from one of the books, or Linda. That character did have a female voice.
Her name is Nicole "SPARTAN-458", and she is 21 years old in DOA4, one year younger than me :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_%28Dead_or_Ali...
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6883 Days
Dude you're old ..!
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NeoNemesis
NeoNemesis
Since 6712 Days
Damn, I was wrong. WAHH. *emotear*
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 6866 Days
Posted by Jollipop
Dude you're old ..!
Hehe...and how old are you then?
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7000 Days
Posted by NeoNemesis
Its not MC, its Kelly from one of the books, or Linda. That character did have a female voice.
I know. She might as well be master chief though.

And 22 isn't old by a long shot.
Posted by SimonM7
Well I thought there'd be some bricks involved with my statements that SC has slacked off in the balance department. :D
Oh, no way. SC is far from perfectly balanced. Every fighting game has its tiers, but they're very pronounced in Soul Calibur. That's disregarding the guest characters even, which basically throw balance to the wind in favor of projectile moves and funny gimmicks to appeal to.. blech.. the masses.
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6883 Days
Posted by Sath
Hehe...and how old are you then?
I was being sarcastic..
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 6866 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
And 22 isn't old by a long shot.
Posted by Jollipop
I was being sarcastic..
Hmm, ho about that.
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SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Since 7023 Days
The more I think about Namco supposedly trying to appeal to a western audience the more the Star Wars thing makes sense. In a misguided japanese view of westerners way of course, but still.
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CockKnocker
CockKnocker
Since 6945 Days
i wish they put Cloud and Sephiroth in it hahah. that would be so cool to me.
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SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Since 7023 Days
Well there's Dissida you know. :)

Lord knows if that will be worth paying attention to though.
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deftangel - Hot stuff!
deftangel
Since 6868 Days
Bauer is awesome....
Hell yeah he is! The perfect game to put Teh Bauer in would have been The Club.

People complaining about this boggles me. Not in a complaining about complainers sort of way but it's just strange. What are the downsides to this again? You know, maybe the guys at Namco just thought this would be cool. Maybe they're big fans of The Vader. It's really pretty harmless.

I suck at fighting games, badly. I loved playing SC2 with Spawn though and to me that was cool. I was hardly doing anyone any harm and quite rightly I was beasted by anyone decent. Same went for DOA4 and Nicole.

I really don't see how this cheapens a game in anyway when it's not exactly a series renowned for taking itself seriously. Lighten up!

Oh and where are all the people complaining about extra characters in SS Brawl then? What's so different about that? :Z
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 6866 Days
Deft...not even Bauer could save that game :P
Jokes aside, yes, The Club would be good for Bauer, show some real skills, however they already have a "law" character.

I agree with Deft here, I don't care if Vader suddenly appears in games, its a bonys character for fun.

I don't see many complains why so many various random characters in SSBB, like Solid Snake, Mario, Zelda, Metroid...etc. wtf?

But appearently people like the idea of using thse "??? versus ???" character, and this is pretty much it.

I for one wanted Kratos on the PS3 version :P
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CockKnocker
CockKnocker
Since 6945 Days
Posted by Sath
I don't see many complains why so many various random characters in SSBB, like Solid Snake, Mario, Zelda, Metroid...etc. wtf?
but for Smash Bros, thats the whole idea behind the game. Its just a bunch of characters from different Nintendo games, it always has been. But Soul Calibur didnt always have "special guest" characters, they just started doing that after part 2 with Spawn and Link.

Personally, I could have thought of a whole lot of cooler characters to add instead of Star Wars. Like...Ryu from Ninja Gaiden. Or Kratos (like you said) Or maybe Mr. T
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deftangel
Since 6868 Days
Ryu's already in DOA4 isn't he?

Mr T would be awesome in a way but isn't someone known for carrying a melee weapon. Someone like Uma Thurman from Kill Bill might be a bit different.

Just wait till SC5 and they put the Turtles in it, then there will be a meltdown!
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dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6860 Days
Bloody Lucasarts stop all this money milking crap!, and just get KOTOR3 done already!!
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CockKnocker
CockKnocker
Since 6945 Days
Posted by deftangel
Ryu's already in DOA4 isn't he?
yeah...but you cant use his sword in DOA. And it wouldnt be much different than how they added Yoshimitsu from Tekken to Soulcalibur 2. It would seem more logical for Ryu to be in it, since he's not from DOA, he's originally from Ninja Gaiden.

Mr T's weapon would be his chains and his ability to pity you to death. Shit, they could throw in Vin Diesel and Chuck Norris as well, and this would be the ultimate game.
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