It is if you haven't had your fibers!

I really hope "conventional" game makers will consider having an option for this aswell. There's a Namco skiing game coming out that's made by.. the... um.. Ridge Racer team I think.. But that only uses the Wiimote and Nunchuk. It could easily enable you to shift your weigt to take turns and stuff.

Oh and Waverace perhaps?

I dunno what you'd do with this to even get your heart beating faster. I don't think it's neccessarily about that. Raving Rabbids is prolly a better fit, then! *rimshot*

From a "fitness" perspective this is more like those training videos with girls in spandex going "1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, PUSH, PUSH, and rest.. AND PUSH.. and rest.. and get UP, and down.. and BACK.. and forth.. and TWITST.. and release.. and step to the right, and step to the left, and step in muck, OH NO, and wipe."

As opposed to flailing about like mad.

What a load of crap. You think something like Gears of War is longer than Metroid Prime or Zelda? Are you INSANE? If anything, your average 360/PS3 blockbuster has to be shorter because the young adult/adult demographic have loads of other things to do and can't realistically be expected to pour too much time into a mega quest like Zelda. Mass Effect is a gigantic exception to a general rule of waiting 3 years for a game that you finish in a sitting.

Microsoft and Sony should be applauding nintendo for bringing more new customers to the gaming industry than either could only have dreamt about.
These noobs are coming in their thousands every week and only need to be tapped into.
I bet will be seeing a lot more 'pathetic' games from MS and Sony over the next few years to entice these strange new people to buy their shiny new boxes.

Maybe something like Trauma Center or Zack and Wiki is "pathetic" in the face of Halo 3, but at least it's something we didn't play at Xbox launch. In fact, even a game like Eledees/Elebits won't win awards, but I still find it genuinely exciting to play because it reaches into previously unexplored parts of our gaming brains instead of insisting to wank off the parts we've been wanking off for the last six years.

You can go on until you're blue in the face about how we're all idiots for falling for Nintendo's strategy of "fun", but that really doesn't rob us of the fact that it is just that - fun. New, exciting, inspiring and fun. And if it doesn't, why keep jumping into these threads to tell us how stupid we are (indirectly of course)? The only thing I can think of is that you don't feel this way, and therefore the fact that other people feel it is dangerous to you. Because - GASP - what if the face of gaming changes and the next big thing isn't an extension of the FPS you've been playing over and over for a decade!

There is a place in my heart for that game too, but I am part of the demographic Nintendo talks about that sometimes feel gaming has grown stale. It's not just about the content, it's about them feeling the same way in my hands over and over. Third person camera? Well we have this here template for controls ready! First person? Oh you know what that'll be like. Racing? Fighting? Genre X? It's all become utterly predictable, and in fact playing the exact same game with well implemented Wii controls can make a world of difference to me.

It's not as simple as you make it out to be, you see. I'm not a stupid, gullible person. I am NOT a casual gamer. I am not looking for a quick fix before I do something else. I am not a kid, I'm not a grandmother, I'm not caught up in a fad - I'm a fucking gamer, and the Wii is exciting to me. In fact, it's exciting in a way that perfectly complements traditional, conservative gaming. The Wii is my antidote that lets me appreciate something like Halo 3 because then it doesn't just remind me that we're moving absolutely nowhere.

But if you feel that it's neccessary then by all means, keep insulting us some more.

A lot of the time that's enough. Reloading on RB is fun, it makes a difference to me. It makes Halo 3 feel different from Halo 2. There's a lovely clicking sound when you press it, it feels wonderfully responsive and somehow fits with the subsequent clicking of changing the magazine in whatever gun you're using. I'm like that, I like even the subtle form of change.

Firing the combined charge/missile thing in Metroid Prime you hold the A button with the lower bit of your thumb and sort of tilt upwards to hit Y. The strange layout of the cube pad gives the action personality.

In Mario for NES you held the A button and tilted over to B to jump. The way there was a dent in the buttons made it feel unique. People lose themselves in the visual input, what happens on the screen. Changing input methods will forever mean "new obstacles" to some, but to me it's incredibly important.

Of course, the Wii does more than just the same thing again with new controls, but since that's obviously the only thing you see in it I'll stick to that.


Oh and one out of three games mentioned isn't "most of them".

I agree. The sales numbers do not reflect the size of the audience waiting for the next "proper game", but I'm not sure that's a huge problem. At least not for developers.

The Playstation established itself in homes long before it had half of the awesome games that eventually made it a proper success, and the same is true of the PS2 with its cheapo DVD player functionality. Eventually though the install base - growing for whatever reason, bowling or DVD playback - will increase the likelihood of someone picking up your game, and that encourages development. The amount of quality titles the DS is seeing (prolly the most of all current consoles/handhelds) is NOT thanks only to the hardcore players, it's because the thing is still selling like hotcakes - again for whatever reason - so it makes development a more risk free situation.

The Wii is rapidly approaching that same position with companies suddenly realising "they underestimated it" or "fucked up when they didn't work on it sooner", et cetera, and just like something like Dragon Quest 9 gravitated towards the DS because of its likely reception there, so will titles for the Wii.

At least I reckon that's why stuff like Monster Hunter 3 and Project Zero (4?) is suddenly heading there.

So yes, I agree that it's a valid concern, but it's not an entirely uncommon situation for new hardware.

Have you been out to get one lately? I was was out last weekend and they had all sold out, again and shops had longer waiting list than my penis (which is long).
And i've not seen the ratio but i'd hazard a guess at 3:1.They bought the Wii didn't they.