Looks pretty good all fifa needs is good gameplay like pes which is not likely to happen yet but fifa might overtake pes in the near future are they will just never over take pes, who nows.
Commented on 2006-10-04 13:00:12 In reply to school
Posted by school
Yeh i saw a few reviews for the current gen version and it was pretty good so this might get a high score as you say.
Yeah I've played the 07 PC demo and it plays really well (although it's actually using the 06 engine, so it looks pretty awful even at high resolutions)...
It's the first Fifa game I will be buying since 99!
I tried the xbox version. and even though I wont deny that it has gotten better in gameplay, it is nowhere near Winning Eleven. and the players still look like they are made of plastic and they have that "divine light from above" effect.
Disabled: It can also be the AA tiling in the engine where the geometry instancing for each tile doesnt quite match up thus hacking the instanced sprites unevenly at the seams of the tiles. The hacking probably occurs when one tile gets lagged out due to slowdown.
Or it can be as harmless as a slight field of field (perspective) problem with the instancing when forcing the game into a higher resolution for PR shots purposes (to be downscaled later).
I would expect they are rendering the background to a seperate render target (texture) periodically, most likely in parts (so they don't have to render again when the camera rotates). So they can then apply the depth of field blur to that texture (and not the entire scene). This would explain why the outlines of the players are very sharp - look at the depth of field in any other game and the outlines of focused objects bleed into the background.
I'd imagine it's also to save fillrate, the crowd is probably mostly static, and only gets updated periodically. Say, only the immediate area around the waving flags, etc, gets updated. This simply could be a bit buggy in that first shot (since the flag is broken in two). Rendering that many character models every frame (even though they are very low detail) would still be very tricky, as the batch sizes would be enormous.
Commented on 2006-10-04 14:35:35 In reply to fcb1899
Posted by fcb1899
I tried the xbox version. and even though I wont deny that it has gotten better in gameplay, it is nowhere near Winning Eleven. and the players still look like they are made of plastic and they have that "divine light from above" effect.
first mistake ;) This game is NOTHING like the current gen versions. It is an all new engine entirely for the next gen version of the game :D
Blur filters cannot blur the very edges of an image seamlessly when the outside of the image doesnt exist and theres no data to interpolate from. So in order to apply excessive blur to tiles they'd need a few pixels of data outside the frame of the tile.
Could it be that they have rendered the entire scene in high-resolution tiles on the devkit and then merged them, then downscaled to 720p. But the tiles dont quite match up at the edges and some pixel rows are even duplicated in the foreground objects which means they overlapped the tiles.
The oddball 1279x720 resolution also suggests tinkering (absolutely not buffer grabs for sure).
I'd have to put these in the bullshot basket until I see some real shots.
I'm so hoping this game destroys PES6 just so Konami thinks a bit before coming out with such horrible graphics. I'm really hoping FIFA has incredible gameplay this time around.......REALLY hoping.
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Commented on 2006-10-04 11:40:14
Commented on 2006-10-04 11:47:32
Commented on 2006-10-04 11:55:17
Commented on 2006-10-04 11:57:05Fifa 07 plays much, much closer to PES. I expect very high review scores for this.
Commented on 2006-10-04 12:09:48 In reply to rupbertFifa 07 plays much, much closer to PES. I expect very high review scores for this.
Commented on 2006-10-04 12:23:22Look at:
http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/4366/1134...
http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/4366/1134...
http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/4366/1134...
and every other screen too...
Commented on 2006-10-04 12:27:18 In reply to DisabledLook at:
http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/4366/1134...
http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/4366/1134...
http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/4366/1134...
and every other screen too...
Commented on 2006-10-04 12:56:51 In reply to school
Commented on 2006-10-04 13:00:12 In reply to schoolIt's the first Fifa game I will be buying since 99!
Commented on 2006-10-04 13:14:15
Commented on 2006-10-04 13:52:33Or it can be as harmless as a slight field of field (perspective) problem with the instancing when forcing the game into a higher resolution for PR shots purposes (to be downscaled later).
Commented on 2006-10-04 14:04:39 In reply to Joergen
Commented on 2006-10-04 14:33:35I would expect they are rendering the background to a seperate render target (texture) periodically, most likely in parts (so they don't have to render again when the camera rotates). So they can then apply the depth of field blur to that texture (and not the entire scene). This would explain why the outlines of the players are very sharp - look at the depth of field in any other game and the outlines of focused objects bleed into the background.
I'd imagine it's also to save fillrate, the crowd is probably mostly static, and only gets updated periodically. Say, only the immediate area around the waving flags, etc, gets updated. This simply could be a bit buggy in that first shot (since the flag is broken in two). Rendering that many character models every frame (even though they are very low detail) would still be very tricky, as the batch sizes would be enormous.
Commented on 2006-10-04 14:35:35 In reply to fcb1899
Commented on 2006-10-04 15:03:22 In reply to Optimusv2
Commented on 2006-10-04 15:04:10 In reply to Optimusv2
Commented on 2006-10-04 15:14:15 In reply to rupbert
Commented on 2006-10-04 16:25:16 In reply to Slabs
Commented on 2006-10-04 16:26:10
Commented on 2006-10-04 16:38:38
Commented on 2006-10-04 17:27:57
Commented on 2006-10-04 18:55:41http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/4366/1134...
Blur filters cannot blur the very edges of an image seamlessly when the outside of the image doesnt exist and theres no data to interpolate from. So in order to apply excessive blur to tiles they'd need a few pixels of data outside the frame of the tile.
Could it be that they have rendered the entire scene in high-resolution tiles on the devkit and then merged them, then downscaled to 720p. But the tiles dont quite match up at the edges and some pixel rows are even duplicated in the foreground objects which means they overlapped the tiles.
The oddball 1279x720 resolution also suggests tinkering (absolutely not buffer grabs for sure).
I'd have to put these in the bullshot basket until I see some real shots.
Commented on 2006-10-04 19:49:06
Commented on 2006-10-04 22:59:43 In reply to Slabs
Commented on 2006-10-05 03:31:05Picture #25 : The Players look kinda scary LOL!
Their EYES!
Its like dead rising meats Soccer field :D