Ace Combat 7 also coming to PC/X1

KORNdog

Commented on 2017-01-26 19:12:17

Lost interest in this last year when i found out the VR was just a mode and not the full game. Cop out.

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MrWhite

Commented on 2017-01-26 20:13:28 In reply to KORNdog

Posted by KORNdog

Lost interest in this last year when i found out the VR was just a mode and not the full game. Cop out.

A mode? What, like just a mission or something worse like just flying a jet around an empty sky? I seriously hope they come to their senses and patch in VR support like Codemasters did with Dirt, so we know that can be done.

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AMDman18

Commented on 2017-01-26 20:51:05 In reply to KORNdog

Posted by KORNdog

Lost interest in this last year when i found out the VR was just a mode and not the full game. Cop out.

Damn that's disappointing. Where'd you hear that? I was quite looking forward to playing this in VR. Haven't really cared about Ace Combat since Shattered Skies on PS2. VR had me on board again...

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KORNdog

Commented on 2017-01-26 21:03:21 In reply to AMDman18

Posted by AMDman18

Damn that's disappointing. Where'd you hear that? I was quite looking forward to playing this in VR. Haven't really cared about Ace Combat since Shattered Skies on PS2. VR had me on board again...

Interview with the creator. Reasons being the graphical downgrade in VR and then not knowing where to put the camera in cutscenes. Something like that. Just sounds like weird excuses to me.

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Jabosha

Commented on 2017-01-26 23:21:49 In reply to KORNdog

There's a new article posted by http://uploadvr.com/ace-combat-7-skies-unknown-psv...

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KORNdog

Commented on 2017-01-26 23:52:01 In reply to Jabosha

Posted by Jabosha

There's a new article posted by http://uploadvr.com/ace-combat-7-skies-unknown-psv...

Yup

"I was hoping the entire game would be playable inside of Sony’s headset when it releases, but alas, that’s not the case. Only a handful of specific missions will support the PS VR, similar to Gran Turismo Sport’s VR mode"

:/

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GriftGFX

Commented on 2017-01-27 00:27:14

Keep up the PC releases, Namco! Pretty sweet.

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Tinks

Commented on 2017-01-27 02:17:43 In reply to KORNdog

Posted by KORNdog

Lost interest in this last year when i found out the VR was just a mode and not the full game. Cop out.

Most VR is gonna be a cop out for a few years. Get used to it I'd say

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King_Grunt

Commented on 2017-01-27 02:59:38

This gen of VR is trash anyways so no big suprises there.

Can't wait to play this, great news with the PC release.

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Akumajo

Commented on 2017-01-27 03:25:51 In reply to KORNdog

Posted by KORNdog

Lost interest in this last year when i found out the VR was just a mode and not the full game. Cop out.

We have to cut Namco some slack...Ace Combat hasn't had a full retsil release since the PS2 days...that PS3 game was a Digital Download and despite the hype from both big companies the "easier to dev for" is bolocks as it takes a squadron of programmers to make this type of genre and ONLINE is even harder and costliest specially if dweebs turn around and buy Call of Dooky instead...the casual gamers are the dominant buyers...hardcore gamers are fickle and way too whiny...for everything these days...

Even though you want V.R. keep in mind that it still takes an average of two years to make a game from concept of vision to retail...

Perhaps if they used PS4 Pro for Arcade hardware use we would have seen an Arcade version where consumer testing could be done then a regular disc version for console...but besides Japan what other places are seriously supporting Arcades?

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[quote=KORNdog]Lost interest in this last year when i found out the VR was just a mode and not the full game. Cop out.[/quote]

We have to cut Namco some slack...Ace Combat hasn't had a full retsil release since the PS2 days...that PS3 game was a Digital Download and despite the hype from both big companies the "easier to dev for" is bolocks as it takes a squadron of programmers to make this type of genre and ONLINE is even harder and costliest specially if dweebs turn around and buy Call of Dooky instead...the casual gamers are the dominant buyers...hardcore gamers are fickle and way too whiny...for everything these days...

Even though you want V.R. keep in mind that it still takes an average of two years to make a game from concept of vision to retail...

Perhaps if they used PS4 Pro for Arcade hardware use we would have seen an Arcade version where consumer testing could be done then a regular disc version for console...but besides Japan what other places are seriously supporting Arcades?

Akumajo

Commented on 2017-01-27 05:08:08 In reply to Jabosha

Posted by Jabosha

There's a new article posted by http://uploadvr.com/ace-combat-7-skies-unknown-psv...

Wow I am so disappointed at how freaking clueless these "gamer journalists fanboys" are...

He starts off calling the game...the first version on PlayStation in Japan as called "Air Combat" originally...what an idiot...

And he states "Bandai Namco made it...in PlayStation 1..." wow...revisionist history or just plain fake fanboys...

I bought the North American region "Air Combat" made by Namco who haf not merged with Bandai Computer Entertainment until barely mid-2000s around 2003 to 2004... damn!

The PS1 version in Japan was called "Ace Combat" and for whatever reasons Namco U.S.A. either couldn't get the legal use of "Ace Combat" or some idiots who do localization jobs changed the name of the game...

Reading that "article" was painful as he "wishes...game was completely PSVR" as a whiny weakness filled way of talking about a game in development which is still a relatively new thing for home affordable console use...plus it has to be exclusive to PS4 because that is the soul of how you gamers got this series in sequels.

Perhaps we should start wishing that Halo and Gears are on PS4VR...

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[quote=Jabosha]There's a new article posted by http://uploadvr.com/ace-combat-7-skies-unknown-psvr-preview/[/quote]

Wow I am so disappointed at how freaking clueless these "gamer journalists fanboys" are...

He starts off calling the game...the first version on PlayStation in Japan as called "Air Combat" originally...what an idiot...

And he states "Bandai Namco made it...in PlayStation 1..." wow...revisionist history or just plain fake fanboys...

I bought the North American region "Air Combat" made by Namco who haf not merged with Bandai Computer Entertainment until barely mid-2000s around 2003 to 2004... damn!

The PS1 version in Japan was called "Ace Combat" and for whatever reasons Namco U.S.A. either couldn't get the legal use of "Ace Combat" or some idiots who do localization jobs changed the name of the game...

Reading that "article" was painful as he "wishes...game was completely PSVR" as a whiny weakness filled way of talking about a game in development which is still a relatively new thing for home affordable console use...plus it has to be exclusive to PS4 because that is the soul of how you gamers got this series in sequels.

Perhaps we should start wishing that Halo and Gears are on PS4VR...

KORNdog

Commented on 2017-01-27 10:18:42 In reply to Akumajo

Posted by Akumajo

We have to cut Namco some slack...

I'm not sure we do...we're talking about a genre comprised of an endless sky box, jets and a ground texture with some basic buildings. it's hardly uncharted in complexity now is it? i wouldn't imagine even the jets would need to use a lower poly model seeing as driveclub didn't need to reduce their car models. it just seems like laziness to me. their initial intention was the entire game in VR. now it's a mode. that's BS, no matter how you want to be a bandai apologist.

Posted by Akumajo

Even though you want V.R. keep in mind that it still takes an average of two years to make a game from concept of vision to retail...

VR is often just a case of optimized assets (in the case of a flight sim, as simple as reduced LOD jets and maybe ground detail) and ticking a checkbox. hell, there have been instances of UE4 engine games ACCIDENTALLY releasing with VR support because they ticked the box. vanishing of ethan carter as an example. it didn't work well for obvious reasons, but that's how "difficult" it is to activate. you honestly think it takes 2 years to incorporate VR into a game you're making anyway? no.

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[quote=Akumajo]

We have to cut Namco some slack...

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I'm not sure we do...we're talking about a genre comprised of an endless sky box, jets and a ground texture with some basic buildings. it's hardly uncharted in complexity now is it? i wouldn't imagine even the jets would need to use a lower poly model seeing as driveclub didn't need to reduce their car models. it just seems like laziness to me. their initial intention was the entire game in VR. now it's a mode. that's BS, no matter how you want to be a bandai apologist.

[quote=Akumajo]

Even though you want V.R. keep in mind that it still takes an average of two years to make a game from concept of vision to retail...
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VR is often just a case of optimized assets (in the case of a flight sim, as simple as reduced LOD jets and maybe ground detail) and ticking a checkbox. hell, there have been instances of UE4 engine games ACCIDENTALLY releasing with VR support because they ticked the box. vanishing of ethan carter as an example. it didn't work well for obvious reasons, but that's how "difficult" it is to activate. you honestly think it takes 2 years to incorporate VR into a game you're making anyway? no.

KillerX21

Commented on 2017-01-27 23:34:38

I really hate film grain.

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AMDman18

Commented on 2017-01-27 23:38:23 In reply to KORNdog

Posted by KORNdog

VR is often just a case of optimized assets (in the case of a flight sim, as simple as reduced LOD jets and maybe ground detail) and ticking a checkbox. hell, there have been instances of UE4 engine games ACCIDENTALLY releasing with VR support because they ticked the box. vanishing of ethan carter as an example. it didn't work well for obvious reasons, but that's how "difficult" it is to activate. you honestly think it takes 2 years to incorporate VR into a game you're making anyway? no.

Agreed. Me thinks that they just either didn't want to, or didn't have the resources to make it a "good" full VR experience. But you can look at RE7 as a great example of a game being fully ported to VR. And the weakest VR platform at that. So clearly it's doable. Especially since the hooks are already built into UE4 from what I understand. But if they're saying, "Hey, we didn't have the time to really do the whole game in this way and still have it meet our quality standards." then I get that. It's disappointing, but I get it.

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[quote=KORNdog]

VR is often just a case of optimized assets (in the case of a flight sim, as simple as reduced LOD jets and maybe ground detail) and ticking a checkbox. hell, there have been instances of UE4 engine games ACCIDENTALLY releasing with VR support because they ticked the box. vanishing of ethan carter as an example. it didn't work well for obvious reasons, but that's how "difficult" it is to activate. you honestly think it takes 2 years to incorporate VR into a game you're making anyway? no.[/quote]
Agreed.  Me thinks that they just either didn't want to, or didn't have the resources to make it a "good" full VR experience.  But you can look at RE7 as a great example of a game being fully ported to VR.  And the weakest VR platform at that.  So clearly it's doable.  Especially since the hooks are already built into UE4 from what I understand.  But if they're saying, "Hey, we didn't have the time to really do the whole game in this way and still have it meet our quality standards." then I get that.  It's disappointing, but I get it.