...are the developers in asia really completely oblivious to how utterly cliché this kind of crap is!? OOh, a strong theme of love and hate, wonder where I've seen that before. Oh right, every jrpg ever made.
I don't mean it's crap but it sounds like he thinks it's original or the games strong point or something, when every game in the genre does the exact same thing. A "strong theme of love and hate" is the foundation upon which the whole genre is built, it's like bragging about building a car with wheels!
Hey, walk softly and carry a ten foot sword. It's gotta be longer than your atrocious hair! I would like to know how a dude with stick arms can whip around a sword as big as a motorcycle( it's ok Cloud, you're still my hero). I DO have to thank them for the ladies clothing,though :o As to the "love/hate" theme- it all comes down to how the write it. Will it be like something from an overdramatic teenagers diary? Probably, but at least the combat looks pretty cool...
Commented on 2009-10-17 01:38:18 In reply to Megido
Posted by Megido
...are the developers in asia really completely oblivious to how utterly cliché this kind of crap is!? OOh, a strong theme of love and hate, wonder where I've seen that before. Oh right, every jrpg ever made.
Which is different to all western developed FPSs (for example) which are kill, murder, shoot soldiers in a corridor, AMERICA IS THE BEST. And so on. How original.
Originality is a scarce commodity in video game development now unfortunately, and it's a problem across all genres and all territories. To single out JRPGs for this fault is ridiculous and nonsensical. At least JRPGs still have depth to them, which is more than can be said for most of the other genres still surviving.
JRPGs have depth? Really? Teen angst drama, pseudo philosophy and bible quotations does not make a story deep. There are obviously games that break away from that but generally jrpgs are insanely uninspired. A shooter is not by necessity a story oriented experience, it might focus on the actual game play and thus a bare minimum of "see bad guy and fill him with lead" might suffice, but i think that the good american and european RPGs offer a pretty diverse plethora of plot lines. Just look at stuff like Planescape Torment, Fallout, The Witcher and Baldur's Gate.
Commented on 2009-10-18 22:04:53 In reply to moroboshi
Posted by moroboshi
Which is different to all western developed FPSs (for example) which are kill, murder, shoot soldiers in a corridor, AMERICA IS THE BEST. And so on. How original.
Originality is a scarce commodity in video game development now unfortunately, and it's a problem across all genres and all territories. To single out JRPGs for this fault is ridiculous and nonsensical. At least JRPGs still have depth to them, which is more than can be said for most of the other genres still surviving.
in regards to the game at least, its not as bad (or frankly as completely cliched) as the newbreed 360 wrpg fanboy or western reviewer response has been, but its not as good as some of the jrpg defense force fanboys have proclaimed it to be.
if you're looking for, or don't mind, something with some interesting ideas (that are good but not perfect) surrounded by well enough executed (its not bad, but not particularly good or note-worthy either) rest-of-the-game meat, its worth checking out. i would say its probably not worth $60 though.
This is a Korean game. If you're going to give opinions and negative feedback without having actually played the game, at least make sure you are guided by the light when you do it, and not hiding in ignorant shadows.
And the "Jrpg defense force" wont be all over this game, because a Jrpg defense force knows this isn't a Jrpg, and thus they have no reason to defend it =)
That being said, the game sucks. I liked it better than Star Ocean on the 360, though. You know SO, right? It's that Jrpg game that is pretty popular =)
It's not a jrpg because what? It's developed in korea?
If it plays like a Jrpg, looks like a jrpg, sounds like a jrpg and all over seems to be a goddamn jrpg, it's probably a jrpg. http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/10/16/
Commented on 2009-10-22 06:29:23 In reply to McNutsack
Posted by McNutsack
This is a Korean game. If you're going to give opinions and negative feedback without having actually played the game, at least make sure you are guided by the light when you do it, and not hiding in ignorant shadows.
i return to you sir, "If you're going to give opinions and negative feedback at least make sure you are guided by the light when you do it, and not hiding in ignorant shadows."
you have no idea what i'm talking about. i HAVE played the game. i played it BEFORE most of you out there played it seeing as i played the japanese release.
i didn't say it was a jrpg.
did i?
point that out.
can't do it?
thats probably because i didn't mr. lacking reading comprehension.
but i DID mean the "Jrpg defense force". why? first, personal amusement. i'm usually the first to criticize the rampant wrpg fanboyism out there these days (note the prior statement). second, READ ANY FORUM OF THIS GAME. most of the people on it are those who like jrpgs. half of them don't know its korean.
therefore "Jrpg defense force".
i know EXACTLY what i'm talking bout. i know its korean. I'VE PLAYED THE ORIGINAL MAGNA CARTA THAT'S ONLY IN KOREAN.
YOU haven't a clue and just decided to flap your fingers accompanied with a banal attempt at the appearance of depth.
Loakum
@Driftwood Awesome! I’m loving it! It does show a much crisper picture and the frame rate looks good! I was playing Stella Blade and Dragonball Soarkling Blast! :) (2 Weeks ago)
Driftwood
@Loakum: enjoy, the one Sony sent us will be there on launch day. Coverage will follow asap. (2 Weeks ago)
Loakum
*takes a large sip of victorious grape juice* ok….my PS5 pro arrived early! So much winning! :) (2 Weeks ago)
Driftwood
@reneyvane: non ils l'ont publié le 1er octobre et je crois que tu l'avais déjà linkée. ;) (6 Weeks ago)
reneyvane
Factornews à joué à KingdomComeDeliverance2 au Gamescom 2024 mais ne publie sa preview que maintenant ? [url] (7 Weeks ago)
CraCra
Y a un souci sur les forums ? (9 Weeks ago)
nostradamus
very few with religious beliefs are naive or zealots, but for sure don't find amusing their beliefs being thrown in for clout. maybe STFU with that discourse? (> 3 Months ago)
Driftwood
Download is now functional again on Gamersyde. Sorry for the past 53 days or so when it wasn't. (> 3 Months ago)
Driftwood
Another (French) livestream today at 2:30 CEST but you're welcome to drop by and speak English. I will gladly answer in English when I get a chance to catch a breath. :) (> 3 Months ago)
Driftwood
GSY is getting some nice content at 3 pm CEST with our July podcast and some videos of the Deus Ex Mankind Divided preview build. :) (> 3 Months ago)
Driftwood
For once we'll be live at 4:30 pm CEST. Blim should not even be tired! (> 3 Months ago)
Driftwood
More Quantum Break coverage coming in a few hours, 9:00 a.m CEST. (> 3 Months ago)
Driftwood
We'll have a full review up for Firewatch at 7 pm CET. Videos will only be tomorrow though. (> 3 Months ago)
Driftwood
Tonight's livestream will be at 9:15 GMT+1, not GMT+2 as first stated. (> 3 Months ago)
Patreon
All comments (18)
Commented on 2009-10-16 15:19:24
Commented on 2009-10-16 15:44:11Not my cup o' tea, live and let live.
Commented on 2009-10-16 15:58:10
Commented on 2009-10-16 16:09:24 In reply to Megido
Commented on 2009-10-16 16:32:47 In reply to roxwell
Commented on 2009-10-16 16:39:16
Commented on 2009-10-16 22:25:28
Commented on 2009-10-17 01:38:18 In reply to MegidoOriginality is a scarce commodity in video game development now unfortunately, and it's a problem across all genres and all territories. To single out JRPGs for this fault is ridiculous and nonsensical. At least JRPGs still have depth to them, which is more than can be said for most of the other genres still surviving.
Commented on 2009-10-17 02:08:53
Commented on 2009-10-17 06:33:42All other boring games can be played on pc.
Commented on 2009-10-18 22:04:53 In reply to moroboshiOriginality is a scarce commodity in video game development now unfortunately, and it's a problem across all genres and all territories. To single out JRPGs for this fault is ridiculous and nonsensical. At least JRPGs still have depth to them, which is more than can be said for most of the other genres still surviving.
Commented on 2009-10-19 00:37:56
Commented on 2009-10-19 23:55:06
Commented on 2009-10-21 02:41:59if you're looking for, or don't mind, something with some interesting ideas (that are good but not perfect) surrounded by well enough executed (its not bad, but not particularly good or note-worthy either) rest-of-the-game meat, its worth checking out. i would say its probably not worth $60 though.
Commented on 2009-10-21 22:59:04And the "Jrpg defense force" wont be all over this game, because a Jrpg defense force knows this isn't a Jrpg, and thus they have no reason to defend it =)
That being said, the game sucks. I liked it better than Star Ocean on the 360, though. You know SO, right? It's that Jrpg game that is pretty popular =)
Commented on 2009-10-21 23:30:58If it plays like a Jrpg, looks like a jrpg, sounds like a jrpg and all over seems to be a goddamn jrpg, it's probably a jrpg.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/10/16/
Commented on 2009-10-22 06:29:23 In reply to McNutsackyou have no idea what i'm talking about. i HAVE played the game. i played it BEFORE most of you out there played it seeing as i played the japanese release.
i didn't say it was a jrpg.
did i?
point that out.
can't do it?
thats probably because i didn't mr. lacking reading comprehension.
but i DID mean the "Jrpg defense force". why? first, personal amusement. i'm usually the first to criticize the rampant wrpg fanboyism out there these days (note the prior statement). second, READ ANY FORUM OF THIS GAME. most of the people on it are those who like jrpgs. half of them don't know its korean.
therefore "Jrpg defense force".
i know EXACTLY what i'm talking bout. i know its korean. I'VE PLAYED THE ORIGINAL MAGNA CARTA THAT'S ONLY IN KOREAN.
YOU haven't a clue and just decided to flap your fingers accompanied with a banal attempt at the appearance of depth.
Commented on 2009-10-25 16:13:03But it's a little interesting, though.