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Ubi has once again put together a trailer, this time presenting the water rendering and depth of view systems. Looks as promising as it did last time.

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Tupacolyte
Tupacolyte
Commented on 2006-02-16 19:38:59
maybe I missed it

where's the PC footage in there/
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Manager - Shemale
Manager
Commented on 2006-02-16 19:41:10 In reply to Tupacolyte
Posted by Tupacolyte
where's the PC footage in there/
I have no idea. *Fixed*
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Commented on 2006-02-16 20:00:09
I find it odd that a pond/river with lily pads has waves in it..

But it looks nice non the less.
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baszs
baszs
Commented on 2006-02-16 20:05:20
maybe it was connected to the sea!
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killermonkey
killermonkey
Commented on 2006-02-16 20:31:53
Have you ever been by the water? Light winds could make the size waves that are in that. Wind makes waves.

Besides... who cares when it looks that good?

Tupac... there is no PC footage. That's another video. What's up man?
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TheFuriousOne
TheFuriousOne
Commented on 2006-02-16 20:34:44
Thought it was a combination of the wind and the moon's gravitational pull..
Looks lush anyway!
Pity the waves dont splace against the rocks or ride up the beach.
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Tupacolyte
Tupacolyte
Commented on 2006-02-16 21:06:21 In reply to killermonkey
Posted by killermonkey
Have you ever been by the water? Light winds could make the size waves that are in that. Wind makes waves.

Besides... who cares when it looks that good?

Tupac... there is no PC footage. That's another video. What's up man?
:o kilmo

wtf is up man



and you should have been here faster

it used to say it was another PC vs 360 video ;)
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Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
Acert93
Commented on 2006-02-16 21:17:39
A little choppy half way through the depth of vision test. I wonder how the LOD is compared to FC PC. i.e. When you move toward the jungle the detail "pops" and things fade in/out and (non-SM3.0) the leaves are sprites until a certain point.
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alimokrane
alimokrane
Commented on 2006-02-16 21:45:18
The water looks great but what about other more intresting stuff other then the water
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Disabled
Disabled
Commented on 2006-02-16 21:54:33
@killermonkey: look how the file is (still) named, there you have your pc...

And you can see that the water is just a "simple" trick, as the water lilys dont move to them. Now that would be awesome if they would and if they would interact with the ship and the rocks and stuff... *dreaming of holidays on an island...*
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Commented on 2006-02-16 22:48:14 In reply to killermonkey
Posted by killermonkey
Have you ever been by the water? Light winds could make the size waves that are in that. Wind makes waves.
Not in a river it wouldn't, a river = flowing water..

And wind would cause ripples not waves.
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mike68
mike68
Commented on 2006-02-16 23:06:01
beautiful!!!
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Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
Acert93
Commented on 2006-02-16 23:06:25 In reply to Jollipop
Posted by Jollipop
Not in a river it wouldn't, a river = flowing water..

And wind would cause ripples not waves.
1. Wind can cause waves. See link and quotes below.

2. In larger rivers (e.g. Columbia River where I used to live) there are waves all the time, even on calm beaches.

http://www.seafriends.org.nz/oceano/waves.htm
Without waves, the world would be a different place. Waves cannot exist by themselves for they are caused by winds.
When the wind blows across the water, it changes the water's surface, first into ripples and then into waves. Storms can make enormous waves, particularly if the wind, blows in the same direction for any length of time. In this chapter, you can learn what waves are and how they behave.
The wind blows over the water, changing its surface into ripples and waves. As waves grow in height, the wind pushes them along faster and higher. Waves can become unexpectedly strong and destructive.
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Prez
Prez
Commented on 2006-02-16 23:11:18
It looks better than i excpected, but i would like to see Crysis on 360
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hob
hob
Commented on 2006-02-16 23:12:05
AHhh.. Budding oceanographers and ...waveologists?

Wind is the source of all waves(almost), where the heck did you think they came from? The last time I check my cup of water never formed waves on a full moon. check that smart dudes link.

Gravitational forces from the sun and the moon cause the TIDES which is a pinwheel circular wave called an AMPHIDROME. which only came to light thanks to satellite intruments( i think)

Although I do think they overdid the waves and they are still too uniform. But i've never been to these island loactations.
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Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
Acert93
Commented on 2006-02-16 23:26:12
Yeah, waves are rarely perfectly uniform.

In Hawaii you definately see how waves come in sets. When I dislocated my shoulder (very painful... even worse getting it back in) body boarding I got trashed on a set of 3. The waves were coming in at 12-15 feet and breaking into the surf instead of out a bit (btw, bad idea to try to do anything with waves like that... I was a noob) and you would time everything knowing there would be 3 sets and then a break. Sucked when I messed up my shoulder because it was the first wave and I got plastered by the next two.

You are right on tides as well. I scuba dive and you are always mindful of the tides--which are, as you mentioned, affected by the moon. Best time to do a shore dive is when there is a very small exchange in the tide; when high tide and low tide have a fast and drastic change you best not be caught out on shore or you will be quickly deposited out in the ocean!
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Commented on 2006-02-17 00:18:18 In reply to Acert93
Waves in the ocean are actually caused more by tides and the effect of the moons gravity. (although wind and storms have an effect on these also)

Also melting Ice caps have an on effect on currents. (East Australian Current for example is when cool water meets warm water)

When fresh water meets salt water can have an effect on waves also.

Saying waves are largely the effect of wind is very wrong.
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Croftanator
Croftanator
Commented on 2006-02-17 00:27:41
Waves are caused by all the little fishies farting at the same time...
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Commented on 2006-02-17 00:34:07
Clever little nemo's :)
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MakyoDetector
MakyoDetector
Commented on 2006-02-17 00:48:39
So the party line has moved on this game... some recent shots got a very cold reception here. What I'm trying to say is: don't let anybody else do your thinking - form your own opinions.
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QuezcatoL
QuezcatoL
Commented on 2006-02-17 01:06:31
:) looks nice.
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davidnay
davidnay
Commented on 2006-02-17 01:35:16
when is this game coming out?
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Commented on 2006-02-17 01:44:07 In reply to davidnay
Posted by davidnay
when is this game coming out?
March 26th
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davidnay
davidnay
Commented on 2006-02-17 01:46:24 In reply to Jollipop
Posted by Jollipop
March 26th
Only a little over a month until this game launches and this is the best they can give us? They need to crank out a trailer or something. At least a few screen shots that DON'T suck.
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Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
Acert93
Commented on 2006-02-17 02:21:36 In reply to Jollipop
Posted by Jollipop
Saying waves are largely the effect of wind is very wrong.
Very wrong? Oceanographers? Gravity (namely the variance of the moon's distance from earth) causes tides. Tides are the rising and lowering of the ocean. While a tidal change can produce waves (especially as they inudate a flow restricted area or bounce) they generally do not cause significant waves. As oceanographers state: winds are the primary cause of ocean waves. Since you don't trust my first link, see these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_surface_wave
Ocean surface waves are surface waves which occur at the surface of an ocean. That is, a wave that is guided along the interface between water and air. As the wind blows, pressure and friction forces associated with the wind perturb the equilibrium of the ocean surface. The wind actually transfers some of its energy into the water. The water is able to gain energy from the wind because of the friction between the wind and the water. This causes the surface particles to move in an elliptical motion, which is a combination of longitudinal (back and forth) and transverse (up and down) wave motions.
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/educate/pacwave.shtml
What causes ocean surface waves?
As the wind blows, it "pushes" the ocean water ahead of it. The wind actually transfers some of its energy into the water. The water is able to "gain" energy from the wind because of the friction between the wind and the water.
http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/resources/ocng_textbook...
Ocean waves are produced by the wind. The faster the wind, the longer the wind blows, and the bigger the area over which the wind blows, the bigger the waves.
http://www.mos.org/oceans/motion/wind.html
When wind blows over the ocean's surface, it creates waves. Their size depends on how far, how fast and how long the wind blows. A brief, gently breeze forms patches of tiny ripples on the surface called catspaws; strong, steady winds over long distances create large waves. But even when you feel no wind at all, you may encounter large swells created by distant storms.

In the open sea, waves make floating boats bob up and down instead of pushing them along. This is because the waves travel through water, the do not take the water with them. As a wave arrives it lifts water particles. These travel forward, then down and back so that each particle completes a circle. Circling movements of particles near the surface set off smaller circling movements below them.
Btw, you can have tidal exchange with no waves. Waves are caused by the trasfer of energy to water, yet with tides there is only a shift in engergy (gravity).
Waves in the ocean are actually caused more by tides and the effect of the moons gravity.
Tides are the result of the moons gravity. It is not "waves = tides + gravity" as tides = effects of shifting gravity.

I don't think anyone would deny tides have an impact on waves, but tides are a phenomina separate from waves and I have never read anything in high school or college that indicated anything but wind was the primary cause of waves. This is why storms and hurricains have such large waves--because the wind can transfer a ton of energy. The difference in energy can be seen by comparing the most extreme tidal exchanges with the most extreme storm surges (like Katrina).

An experiement anyone can do is this: blow a fan over a bowl of water. Then take the same water, turn off the fan, and over a 10 minute period slowly shift the bowl to immitate the effects of tide.

The fan will create a more significant effect on the body of water.
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