GC08: Fallout 3 in October

Commented on 2008-08-20 21:24:47

Halloween? Ouuuuuuu...

After playing Oblivion for the second time and loving it once again, i'm officially pumped for Fallout 3.

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Se777eN

Commented on 2008-08-20 22:06:16

A Week before gow2 and left 4 dead..

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thetowlie

Commented on 2008-08-20 22:25:17 In reply to Se777eN

and again no shadows . . ^ ^

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Gamer

Commented on 2008-08-20 22:31:36

So one week after Fable 2 and Dead Space. I wont be done with those games until mid November. All these excellent games coming out around the same time is an embarrassment of riches.

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mustacio

Commented on 2008-08-20 23:51:35

too many games coming out so close to each other. for people with money thats great, but for middle class a-holes like us we got to wait longer to get what we want.

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DDRMidian

Commented on 2008-08-20 23:54:29 In reply to mustacio

Posted by mustacio

too many games coming out so close to each other. for people with money thats great, but for middle class a-holes like us we got to wait longer to get what we want.

I'm middle class... but I save money. So that's... 11 games I want before the end of the year. Hooray!

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mastes1

Commented on 2008-08-21 00:03:10

God i hope this game plays just like a futuristic Oblivion!.

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Megido

Commented on 2008-08-21 00:45:44 In reply to mastes1

Posted by mastes1

God i hope this game plays just like a futuristic Oblivion!.

God i certainly hope it doesn't...though it probably will. Imo oblivion is stupid. The whole level scaling crap just ruins the exploration...sure you've got a huge world filled wit....whatever armour/weapons/monsters that happen to fit your current level. Going in to a dungeon you know that you'll only find a freaking leather armor and that totally kills the experience for me. Also story was sparse, they had like 3 voice actors and the dialog was terribly uninteresting when present but for the mot part not even that. I hope that fallout does the following:

*Big open world without any form of scaling to fit the character. If you go in to mutant teritory at level one, they SHOULD be able to rip your balls off.

*Witty/fun writing. Please no more NPCs saying the same thing ALL OVER THE WORLD, through the ENTIRE game.

*Plenty of actual choises in the game, affecting the outcome of situations. Not just whooptie do, the guard came after you but REAL effects on the world...like if your actions might change later quests or whatever.

*Actual conversations with characters, and not the old "phrase here" followed by "generic crap response here" style we know bethesda usually goes with.

*Not being able to do EVERYTHING in one run. In oblivion, the mages guild recruits orcs wielding huge clubs? That's just weird. They should at least have some sort of requirement, so that you have to think about how you want to play your character. Orc gets int -10 = stupid = cant cast spells or something. In fallout terms i guess it would be decided by skills and traits :P

Sooo...basically i hope that it fixes all the things that oblivion did incredibly BAD. I just pray bethesda looked to the two original games for more than visual inspiration as those are really two of the best RPGs ever made.

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[quote=mastes1]God i hope this game plays just like a futuristic Oblivion!.[/quote]

God i certainly hope it doesn't...though it probably will. Imo oblivion is stupid. The whole level scaling crap just ruins the exploration...sure you've got a huge world filled wit....whatever armour/weapons/monsters that happen to fit your current level. Going in to a dungeon you know that you'll only find a freaking leather armor and that totally kills the experience for me. Also story was sparse, they had like 3 voice actors and the dialog was terribly uninteresting when present but for the mot part not even that. I hope that fallout does the following:

*[b]Big open world without any form of scaling to fit the character.[/b] If you go in to mutant teritory at level one, they SHOULD be able to rip your balls off.

*[b]Witty/fun writing.[/b] Please no more NPCs saying the same thing ALL OVER THE WORLD, through the ENTIRE game.

*[b]Plenty of actual choises in the game, affecting the outcome of situations.[/b] Not just whooptie do, the guard came after you but REAL effects on the world...like if your actions might change later quests or whatever.

*[b]Actual conversations with characters[/b], and not the old "phrase here" followed by "generic crap response here" style we know bethesda usually goes with.

*[b]Not being able to do EVERYTHING in one run[/b]. In oblivion, the mages guild recruits orcs wielding huge clubs? That's just weird. They should at least have some sort of requirement, so that you have to think about how you want to play your character. Orc gets int -10 = stupid = cant cast spells or something. In fallout terms i guess it would be decided by skills and traits :P

Sooo...basically i hope that it fixes all the things that oblivion did incredibly BAD. I just pray bethesda looked to the two original games for more than visual inspiration as those are really two of the best RPGs ever made.

blmbox

Commented on 2008-08-21 00:54:01 In reply to Megido

Posted by Megido

*Big open world without any form of scaling to fit the character.
*Witty/fun writing
*Plenty of actual choises in the game, affecting the outcome of situations.
*Actual conversations with characters, and not the old "phrase here" followed by "generic crap response here" style we know bethesda usually goes with.

From what i've read, it seems like all of that has been fixed.

For what it's worth, I absolutely love Oblivion and would be very happy with "Oblivion with guns". I guess fans of the actual series (Fallout) would categorically disagree, but i'm not really bothered about them. :)

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Megido

Commented on 2008-08-21 00:55:33

blmbox: i won't complain if i do get oblivion with guns as that would be at least 100-150 ours of entertainment, but a REAL fallout sequel would be very much more appreciated on my behalf ^^

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bleachedsmiles

Commented on 2008-08-21 01:12:58

i really hope this gets delayed and gets the polish it needs. Not just in terms of graphics/animation, but also gameplay...as from what i hear from the lastest eurogamer hands on with a near "finished" build, this games got ALOT of problems. Too Human might not be the only anti climax this year...

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Morgun

Commented on 2008-08-21 01:28:48 In reply to bleachedsmiles

Posted by bleachedsmiles

i really hope this gets delayed and gets the polish it needs. Not just in terms of graphics/animation, but also gameplay...as from what i hear from the lastest eurogamer hands on with a near "finished" build, this games got ALOT of problems.

Just buy it on the PC and wait for the mod community to fix the game. It worked for Morrowind and Oblivion.

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Vonhammer

Commented on 2008-08-21 02:37:09

Nice, This and LBP a few days apart.

I like getting two good but different games at the same time, my fav combo was Zelda OOT and F-Zero X

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pythxvii

Commented on 2008-08-21 03:54:37 In reply to Gamer

AGHHHH. nooooo. I am going to be in more dept then a med student v.v

Too many games to buy v.v

game is looking excellent. I love the character creation effecting how your dad looks. And Liam Neeson pr w/e =FTW

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pythxvii

Commented on 2008-08-21 03:58:37 In reply to Megido

Posted by Megido

God i certainly hope it doesn't...though it probably will. Imo oblivion is stupid. The whole level scaling crap just ruins the exploration...sure you've got a huge world filled wit....whatever armour/weapons/monsters that happen to fit your current level. Going in to a dungeon you know that you'll only find a freaking leather armor and that totally kills the experience for me. Also story was sparse, they had like 3 voice actors and the dialog was terribly uninteresting when present but for the mot part not even that. I hope that fallout does the following:

*Big open world without any form of scaling to fit the character. If you go in to mutant teritory at level one, they SHOULD be able to rip your balls off.

*Witty/fun writing. Please no more NPCs saying the same thing ALL OVER THE WORLD, through the ENTIRE game.

*Plenty of actual choises in the game, affecting the outcome of situations. Not just whooptie do, the guard came after you but REAL effects on the world...like if your actions might change later quests or whatever.

*Actual conversations with characters, and not the old "phrase here" followed by "generic crap response here" style we know bethesda usually goes with.

*Not being able to do EVERYTHING in one run. In oblivion, the mages guild recruits orcs wielding huge clubs? That's just weird. They should at least have some sort of requirement, so that you have to think about how you want to play your character. Orc gets int -10 = stupid = cant cast spells or something. In fallout terms i guess it would be decided by skills and traits :P

Sooo...basically i hope that it fixes all the things that oblivion did incredibly BAD. I just pray bethesda looked to the two original games for more than visual inspiration as those are really two of the best RPGs ever made.

if you had read ANY of the reviews you would realize you just listed all the big things people have noted in Fallout 3. Don't worry, these are all things that are taken care of in Fallout 3. Ther is no scaling, the dialogue is supposed to be really interesting and diverse, and choices in teh game have BIG effects, like you being able to destroy an entire town, etc.

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[quote=Megido]

God i certainly hope it doesn't...though it probably will. Imo oblivion is stupid. The whole level scaling crap just ruins the exploration...sure you've got a huge world filled wit....whatever armour/weapons/monsters that happen to fit your current level. Going in to a dungeon you know that you'll only find a freaking leather armor and that totally kills the experience for me. Also story was sparse, they had like 3 voice actors and the dialog was terribly uninteresting when present but for the mot part not even that. I hope that fallout does the following:

*[b]Big open world without any form of scaling to fit the character.[/b] If you go in to mutant teritory at level one, they SHOULD be able to rip your balls off.

*[b]Witty/fun writing.[/b] Please no more NPCs saying the same thing ALL OVER THE WORLD, through the ENTIRE game.

*[b]Plenty of actual choises in the game, affecting the outcome of situations.[/b] Not just whooptie do, the guard came after you but REAL effects on the world...like if your actions might change later quests or whatever.

*[b]Actual conversations with characters[/b], and not the old "phrase here" followed by "generic crap response here" style we know bethesda usually goes with.

*[b]Not being able to do EVERYTHING in one run[/b]. In oblivion, the mages guild recruits orcs wielding huge clubs? That's just weird. They should at least have some sort of requirement, so that you have to think about how you want to play your character. Orc gets int -10 = stupid = cant cast spells or something. In fallout terms i guess it would be decided by skills and traits :P

Sooo...basically i hope that it fixes all the things that oblivion did incredibly BAD. I just pray bethesda looked to the two original games for more than visual inspiration as those are really two of the best RPGs ever made.[/quote]
if you had read ANY of the reviews you would realize you just listed all the big things people have noted in Fallout 3. Don't worry, these are all things that are taken care of in Fallout 3. Ther is no scaling, the dialogue is supposed to be really interesting and diverse, and choices in teh game have BIG effects, like you being able to destroy an entire town, etc.

blmbox

Commented on 2008-08-21 04:41:36 In reply to bleachedsmiles

Posted by bleachedsmiles

i really hope this gets delayed and gets the polish it needs. Not just in terms of graphics/animation, but also gameplay...as from what i hear from the lastest eurogamer hands on with a near "finished" build, this games got ALOT of problems. Too Human might not be the only anti climax this year...

I wouldn't pay too much attention to Eurogamer. I usually do but, seeing as they're the only site who has been negative about Fallout 3, their opinion can't be that accurate.

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Fenrir

Commented on 2008-08-21 06:57:39

Fallout fanboys should be thankful that, at least, it isn't EA who picked up the Fallout IP. Fans of System Shock, Command and Conquer, Wing Commander... et al have no such respite.

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bleachedsmiles

Commented on 2008-08-22 00:07:20 In reply to blmbox

Posted by blmbox

I wouldn't pay too much attention to Eurogamer. I usually do but, seeing as they're the only site who has been negative about Fallout 3, their opinion can't be that accurate.

Maybe, maybe not... all the problems eurogamer picked up on though werent opinion, they were fact..as in the problems actually existed in the build they played.

You also need to remember that alot of these sites are pretty corrupt when it comes to previews in order to build up hype.. this is because they get alot of advertising money from the publishers of certain games... so if you see ads for games that are being published by the same people that are publishing the games you're reading up on then you really should take everything with a pinch of salt... as surely you've noticed countless times where a games been really hyped up, had positive hands on experiences, positive previews..and then gets a 7? IGN seem to do this alot for example.

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blmbox

Commented on 2008-08-22 00:13:36

Eurogamer is the only negative preview i've read. I'm pretty sure not every gaming site has been paid off.

Anyway it's what we, the potential consumers, make of it that is the most important thing. And I think it looks brilliant.

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