The Game Convention is almost over on Gamersyde, and I think it's interesting to do a direct comparison of two of the most popular games there: Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 and Fifa 09. So I encoded two full videos at 60 fps so you guys can compare both games with the best quality possible. Be aware that the stream will still run at 30 fps though, so you'll have to download the video (in whatever format you want) to see it running at full speed.
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Until Konami invest in a new engine that can meet the demands for visuals on a par with Fifa, that can bring the gameplay into the modern age, that features animations that don't look like they date back to the mega drive, that features commentary that has an ounce of passion then PES will remain to be the bastard child of football gaming.
it was a joke
The thing thats stands out the most is the off-the-ball player a.i, the runs they make feels like they are human controlled, always trying to get into space, never static like PES.
I watched the PES vid first and I liked what I saw, then I put the FIfa vid on and it was like a breath of fresh air, I would go as far as saying Fifa looks miles better. Its a shame really as I will genuinely miss the Master League :(
I've never really liked the look of Fifa - I know everyone thinks it looks better, but it looks too filtered, like they're trying to make it look like a render, it just doesn't do it to me visually. The pace is far more realistic, but it's more of a passing game.
PES was always the most realistic, and perhaps it's not now, but I like the faster pace, the more responsive players, the perfectly timed through ball, the gloriously different every time goal. It's still realistic, perhaps with more of a nod to keeping it fun and making you feel like a super star where Fifa concentrates on the grind of a real game, but can feel like a slog. Sometimes it's nice to get the ball to Kaka, take it past 3 players and score a blinder to set up a nice through ball to one of the fwds. PES always gives you that adrenalin rush, and it's cleaner graphics may not have the Fifa bling and EA filtering, but for me it always has looked better for it. I may change my mind, but right now I'm thinking of defecting back to PES again.
I've never really liked the look of Fifa - I know everyone thinks it looks better, but it looks too filtered, like they're trying to make it look like a render, it just doesn't do it to me visually. The pace is far more realistic, but it's more of a passing game.
PES was always the most realistic, and perhaps it's not now, but I like the faster pace, the more responsive players, the perfectly timed through ball, the gloriously different every time goal. It's still realistic, perhaps with more of a nod to keeping it fun and making you feel like a super star where Fifa concentrates on the grind of a real game, but can feel like a slog. Sometimes it's nice to get the ball to Kaka, take it past 3 players and score a blinder to set up a nice through ball to one of the fwds. PES always gives you that adrenalin rush, and it's cleaner graphics may not have the Fifa bling and EA filtering, but for me it always has looked better for it. I may change my mind, but right now I'm thinking of defecting back to PES again.
I could never get past the awful development 'effort' that went in to PES08 - the clear 'blur' at the top of the pitch where the engine wasn't optimised enough to draw the grass correctly just reeked of poor programming. Not to mention the general downward spiral with the online game mode since PES5, each version having more lag than the previous. Now this year there seems to be very little change from what was already a poor game.
Perhaps there's a few new animations and better player models, but the awful grass blur still appears to be there, and the same old user interface/HUD - which looks like an MSDOS version of Windows Media Player 10.
FIFA seems to be taking a very notable step forward with each version. FIFA 07 introduced the next gen engine, FIFA 08 introduced Be a Pro and Be a Pro online, Euro 2008 introduced Captain Your Country (a variation of Be A Pro, but career based throughout the tournament), and FIFA 09 is introducing a further development of this, where you captain your favourite team in a career - along with 10 v 10 Be A Pro online.
PES... seems to be sticking to the same. I felt robbed when I bought PES08 to be brutally honest, and quickly sold the game. The trade-in price of £20 (when I paid £40) a week after release showed just how many trade-ins the game shops were receiving.
Let me put this straight. No FIFA game has ever been remotely close to the splendid PES gameplay. FIFA 2007 was horrible, FIFA 2008 was impossible to control and EURO 2008 was a bit better but slow and boring as heck.
FIFA 2009 is the first in the whole series that seems to take a significant gameplay approach reminiscent to PES, which is good, really good, with a remarkably superior visual look. In terms of animation both of them are equal.
It will be a matter of testing both to know which one handles better and has more dept (very important here) PES also needs to include many more game modes and not limit to regular 1 vs 1 online matches which is where FIFA has taken the cake for a long shot.
On the other side, PES 2009 gameplay and framerate looks much better than the horrible PES 2008 (being PES 2007 the best so far, despite bugs) It's fast, it's spectacular and those guys playing are probably the best ones I've seen in this game's previews (very hard defenses) which gives us a clue of the dept of the game. Lets hope Konami goes back to the right track. We don't care if it doesn't look as fantastic as FIFA (it never has) but if it plays better, then we fans will eventually be sold.
BUGS: I have noticed some bugs in FIFA gameplay. The goalkeepers pretty much suck. One of them almost commited an auto goal when trying to catch an easy ball. Then the other let it slip from a pass from the defense almost striking another auto-goal and the only goal in the match was stoppable in my opinion.
However, it doesn't mean FIFA 2008 was a better game. Visually it was, but the gameplay was even worse than any PES. Currently, the best gameplay in a football game to date PES 2007 and that's what most people in the Top 100 rank I play with say (I'm in the top 500)
FIFA 2008 gameplay just couldn't get you hooked, it was slow and the ball terribly difficult to deal with in key situations. You'd have to wait until the field and the ball get their crap togheter before you could finish or control an splendid pass, leading to a lot of frustration.
To me, the best football game would be a combination of FIFA visuals and gameplay modes + PES 2007 gameplay with its bugs fixed (deselecting players, slowing down for passes, etc...) That, by current standards. Who knows if PES 2009 of FIFA 09 can improve the gameplay standards imposed by PES 2007.
Let me put this straight. No FIFA game has ever been remotely close to the splendid PES gameplay. FIFA 2007 was horrible, FIFA 2008 was impossible to control and EURO 2008 was a bit better but slow and boring as heck.