GC: Mass Effect 2 announced for PS3

Commented on 2010-08-17 21:25:33

My guess at the extra content is remade sequences from Mass Effect 1 which would allow PS3 owners to choose what carries over. Cause that is the only way outside of completely remaking the first game that would be acceptable. Add to that new dialogue choices that stealth some of the less important Mass Effect 1 decisions (like Conrad Verner, though that was glitched up in the PC version). That would explain the Jan. 2011 release.

Unless Bioware gives you no choice and instead gives a pre-rendered, two hour movie that recaps Mass Effect.

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Sath

Commented on 2010-08-17 21:34:22

Really liked ME1, I liked ME2, but I couldnt be satistfied with the keyboard/mouse (I hate it).

So this is a great option for me to play it properly with a controller just the way I like it.

The thing is that Bioware made a bad misstake by not taking ME1 as well, as a trilogy it is important, and gameplay wise a bit, especially when you can transfer your character to ME2.

From my point of view, I am happy I had a 360 when ME1 came out, so I experienced it :)
From the little of ME2 I played, I prefer it more when it comes to gameplay. better combat and polishness and classes with nice abilities.

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KORNdog

Commented on 2010-08-17 21:34:53 In reply to jackdoe

Posted by jackdoe

My guess at the extra content is remade sequences from Mass Effect 1 which would allow PS3 owners to choose what carries over. Cause that is the only way outside of completely remaking the first game that would be acceptable. Add to that new dialogue choices that stealth some Mass Effect 1 decisions (like Conrad Verner, though that was glitched up in the PC version). That would explain the Jan. 2011 release.

Unless Bioware gives you no choice and instead gives a pre-rendered, two hour movie that recaps Mass Effect.

the story in mass effect 1 was largely unchanged no matter what choices you made, it was small things most of the time, things that may give you a dialogue option in the sequel, or see a character you recognise. but hardly massive.

ideally, the whole first game would be included, but i doubt it'll happen. an interactive "recap" video could be good, but again, unlikely. some people jumped straight into the second game on the 360 without playing the first, and i think that's going to be the one and only option for PS3 owners. the additional content will probably be all the DLC that is out and is to come out. maybe a few "exclusive" ones too.

unless they're going to surprise everyone and litterally say the "addtional hours of content" is in fact the entire first game...lol. what else would take till fall 2011, unless contracts are in place with Ms or something?

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[quote=jackdoe]My guess at the extra content is remade sequences from Mass Effect 1 which would allow PS3 owners to choose what carries over. Cause that is the only way outside of completely remaking the first game that would be acceptable. Add to that new dialogue choices that stealth some Mass Effect 1 decisions (like Conrad Verner, though that was glitched up in the PC version). That would explain the Jan. 2011 release.

Unless Bioware gives you no choice and instead gives a pre-rendered, two hour movie that recaps Mass Effect.[/quote]

the story in mass effect 1 was largely unchanged no matter what choices you made, it was small things most of the time, things that may give you a dialogue option in the sequel, or see a character you recognise. but hardly massive.

ideally, the whole first game would be included, but i doubt it'll happen. an interactive "recap" video could be good, but again, unlikely. some people jumped straight into the second game on the 360 without playing the first, and i think that's going to be the one and only option for PS3 owners. the additional content will probably be all the DLC that is out and is to come out. maybe a few "exclusive" ones too.

unless they're going to surprise everyone and litterally say the "addtional hours of content" is in fact the entire first game...lol. what else would take till fall 2011, unless contracts are in place with Ms or something?

Xion4360

Commented on 2010-08-17 23:00:31

Unless you really just want to play ME1, the re-cap video that was included with the 360 demo, and will for sure be included in the PS3 version does a good enough job letting you know what you need to know going into ME2. Ultimately the decisions you made in ME1 arent all that important to ME2. The game still goes through its paces more or less the same way.

The more important part of this announcement is that ME3 will likely be multiplatform as well. Its great news for PS3 owners because its an outstanding series.

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Tinks

Commented on 2010-08-17 23:17:32

ME 1 is important because it provides an experience of maintaining a character over a trilogy. What's it matter if the choices you make have a huge impact on 2? It just makes 2 better to have something you created carrying on into the continuation.

2 isn't as good without playing 1, period. It's still a great game mind you, but the fact remains the same.

January 2011 sounds like a contract situation.

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TeTBCN

Commented on 2010-08-18 00:01:38

More of 70 perfects in Xbox 360.
And now in multi game? the quality down for need divide the team of developers?
I only wait the same of all titles multi, the double of sales in Xbox 360 vs PS 3. Bioware need really it sales?
I boubt.

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Xion4360

Commented on 2010-08-18 01:28:47 In reply to Tinks

Posted by Tinks

ME 1 is important because it provides an experience of maintaining a character over a trilogy. What's it matter if the choices you make have a huge impact on 2? It just makes 2 better to have something you created carrying on into the continuation.

2 isn't as good without playing 1, period. It's still a great game mind you, but the fact remains the same.

I played ME2 the first round without loading my ME1 character because I deleted the save and thought it couldnt be recovered...later on I discovered it could be recovered and played with my original sheppard. and guess what, it made no real difference. The plot was the same, my squad was the same, and my sheppard was the same. Its not of any real benefit. I had a way of playing the game and I chose it that way without importing the first time, and so it went on just the same. You can pick up on the plot and go from there, not much would be different either way.

ME1 is a great game, and IMO ME2 is even better. A quick recap of the main plot of ME1 is all they really need, and they could always play ME1 on 360 or PC. The important thing is having it go multiplatform now so ME3 can be available for all platforms from the start.

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[quote=Tinks]ME 1 is important because it provides an experience of maintaining a character over a trilogy. What's it matter if the choices you make have a huge impact on 2? It just makes 2 better to have something you created carrying on into the continuation.

2 isn't as good without playing 1, period. It's still a great game mind you, but the fact remains the same.[/quote]

I played ME2 the first round without loading my ME1 character because I deleted the save and thought it couldnt be recovered...later on I discovered it could be recovered and played with my original sheppard. and guess what, it made no real difference. The plot was the same, my squad was the same, and my sheppard was the same. Its not of any real benefit. I had a way of playing the game and I chose it that way without importing the first time, and so it went on just the same. You can pick up on the plot and go from there, not much would be different either way.

ME1 is a great game, and IMO ME2 is even better. A quick recap of the main plot of ME1 is all they really need, and they could always play ME1 on 360 or PC. The important thing is having it go multiplatform now so ME3 can be available for all platforms from the start.

bleachedsmiles

Commented on 2010-08-18 02:00:23

my moneys on ME3 hitting 2011 on the 360 atleast 6 months ahead of the ps3 version. I think MS will atleast of secured some sort of deal with EA.

MS are so stupid investing and marketing these IP's that they don't actually own. They establish them to be the huge franchises they are today yet leave it open for their competitors to reap the rewards. I dont understand how that can make good business sense.

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Sath

Commented on 2010-08-18 02:04:42

Xbox 360 got Final Fantasy XIII and DMC4, should be okay IMO that ME2 is coming to PS3.

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Xion4360

Commented on 2010-08-18 02:28:43 In reply to bleachedsmiles

Posted by bleachedsmiles

MS are so stupid investing and marketing these IP's that they don't actually own. They establish them to be the huge franchises they are today yet leave it open for their competitors to reap the rewards. I dont understand how that can make good business sense.

Its not stupid, its smart. Im sure third party publishers are much more willing to sell exclusive rights for a short period of time as opposed to full exclusivity. Having a title release on your platform first 1 year, or even 6 months ahead of time is a big advantage to your platform, It establishes brand recognition with your platform, and lures buyers to it. The attention span of the average consumer is very short. 6 months after release, most games are irrelevant to them. all of the hype happens around release. Once a title is released, it becomes yesterday's news, and its not really all that detrimental to lose it as an exclusive at that point.

now, losing exclusives before they are released, as has been the case with some PS3 games (DMC4, FFXIII like mentioned above) then it matters.

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[quote=bleachedsmiles]MS are so stupid investing and marketing these IP's that they don't actually own. They establish them to be the huge franchises they are today yet leave it open for their competitors to reap the rewards. I dont understand how that can make good business sense.[/quote]

Its not stupid, its smart. Im sure third party publishers are much more willing to sell exclusive rights for a short period of time as opposed to full exclusivity. Having a title release on your platform first 1 year, or even 6 months ahead of time is a big advantage to your platform, It establishes brand recognition with your platform, and lures buyers to it. The attention span of the average consumer is very short. 6 months after release, most games are irrelevant to them. all of the hype happens around release. Once a title is released, it becomes yesterday's news, and its not really all that detrimental to lose it as an exclusive at that point.

now, losing exclusives before they are released, as has been the case with some PS3 games (DMC4, FFXIII like mentioned above) then it matters.

jackdoe

Commented on 2010-08-18 02:48:39

Actually, now that I think about it, Xion4360 is right. Most of your choices from Mass Effect 1 are cosmetic at best. Ashley or Kaidan do nothing, Liara is only expanded upon by DLC, a lot of the side quests are mentioned through e-mails, the council has one scene as does Anderson, and no matter what background you chose from the beginning of Mass Effect 1, your opinion of Cerberus changes little. Hell, I went with "sole survivor" and expected more fight from Shepard about working with Cerberus. Wrex is just about the only major choice that impacts the story.

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Tinks

Commented on 2010-08-18 04:59:24

ME1 is better than ME2 to me. I like micromanagement though, and I prefer the less casual game it is in comparison to ME2.

Choosing courses in a story still isn't substantial enough even in the Mass Effect games. It'd either take too much time for a dev or they're too afraid to take the risk I think.

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Megido

Commented on 2010-08-18 05:22:00

I think both games has pros and cons but all in all i have to agree that i enjoyed ME1 more. The story jsut felt more impactfull, the environment felt a lot more open, i liked the characters better and even though the item management was terrible i prefer terrible item managemnt to no item management. Also the bloody planet scanning is tedious as all hell, driving the car around sucked balls but it was a million times better than the scanning.

Me2 was still pretty damn fun so this is certainly good news for people who only have the PS3 :)

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ebola9717

Commented on 2010-08-18 05:23:51

They better not add anything that's not in the 360 version. I don't want to have to buy another copy of this game.

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Xion4360

Commented on 2010-08-18 05:49:39 In reply to ebola9717

Posted by ebola9717

They better not add anything that's not in the 360 version. I don't want to have to buy another copy of this game.

its almost guaranteed to include new content..in fact "The PlayStation 3 edition will include the full Mass Effect 2 game and hours of bonus content"..some of that bonus content must be new

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jackdoe

Commented on 2010-08-18 05:59:58

Some of that bonus content will explain what happened in Mass Effect 1. Actually, Bioware should change the story so that Shepard has amnesia so that the player could then piece together what happened in the past. This would be a great way to solve the no Mass Effect 1 problem while delivering the information in a fresher way than a mere video recap.

Of course, Bioware is probably too lazy to do this (still waiting for a ME2 PC core affinity patch) and will port it like for like while including a crappy recap video.

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Xion4360

Commented on 2010-08-18 06:25:41

ummm..changing the story like that would make this NOT Mass Effect 2.

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Megido

Commented on 2010-08-18 06:35:49

I assume that they will try to tell what happened in ME1 in some way, but it'll probably just be a little digest movie or something i'd guess. Like the dvd you got with Shenmue 2 on xbox or something :P

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DeadSaint

Commented on 2010-08-18 10:49:04

Hope ME1 staying 360 only wont effect ME3 now that its multiformat? Cause PS3 owners wont meet Rex and so on.

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Megido

Commented on 2010-08-18 11:29:47

Seeing as how ME was always planned as a trilogy arch, i assume that they allready have the story outlined and as such i doubt that this will affect it much :P

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