Xbox Series S videos

Commented on 2020-09-14 14:58:49

Thanks. Great to have these in high quality.

That loading times demonstration is very nice. Long loading times can go the way of the dodo. Quick Resume is also great. I wish more games put an emphasis on immediate start up. On PC that's more than possible and doesn't even need a SSD, let alone a NVMe drive.

Durante - the same person who did the Dark Souls mod - helped the developers of Trails of Cold Steel 2 make the PC version "instant-continue" by basically creating a save state of the game and loading that instantaneously. The same concept Emulators use. Whille different, it achieves the same result as Quick Resume.

Trails of Cold Steel 2 PC - Continue?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5EhwJvJqDk

Hopefully more developers adopt these on PC, because with some games, those splash screens with logos sometimes take over a minute before you finally reach a game's main menu.

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wevafa

Commented on 2020-09-14 16:37:18

Hi bois

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agni_rzm

Commented on 2020-09-15 10:42:51

isn't that gears5 videos originally 120fps?

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Driftwood

Commented on 2020-09-15 12:59:03

It is, but you need to download it. Neither our stream not YT's can play at 120 fps.

Edit: my bad, even the original file is at 60, good move Microsoft...

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andrewsqual

Commented on 2020-09-15 13:23:02

Here are the console generation ruining, developer constraining, weak specs to go along with it, straight from Microsoft.

TECH SPECS
PROCESSOR

CPU. 8X Cores @ 3.6 GHz (3.4 GHz w/SMT) Custom Zen 2 CPU

GPU. 4 TFLOPS, 20 CUs @1.565 GHz

SOC Die Size. 197.05 mm2
MEMORY & STORAGE

Memory. 10GB GDDR6 128 bit-wide bus

Memory Bandwidth. 8GB @ 224 GB/s, 2GB @ 56 GB/s.

Internal Storage. 512GB Custom NVME SSD

I/O Throughput. 2.4 GB/s (Raw), 4.8 GB/s (Compressed, with custom hardware decompression block)

Expandable Storage. Support for 1TB Seagate Expansion Card for Xbox Series X|S matches internal storage exactly (sold separately). Support for USB 3.1 external HDD (sold separately).
VIDEO CAPABILITIES

Gaming Resolution. 1440p

Performance Target. Up to 120 FPS

HDMI Features. Auto Low Latency Mode. HDMI Variable Refresh Rate. AMD FreeSync.
SOUND CAPABILITIES

L-PCM, up to 7.1

Dolby Digital 5.1

DTS 5.1

Dolby TrueHD with Atmos

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andrewsqual

Commented on 2020-09-15 13:26:50 In reply to Sdarts

Killzone Shadow Fall had immediate start up at launch on PS4, no logos, no nothing. Like 60fps on Insomniac Games' games years ago, nobody cared or praised it and so IT went the way of the dodo because of that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFGxWgfmbGg

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agni_rzm

Commented on 2020-09-15 17:48:21 In reply to Driftwood

cheers. I don't have a 120hz display anyways

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MrWhite

Commented on 2020-09-15 18:35:47

Honestly, what is the point of this console? It's almost as redundant as the X1X is, and it's not even out yet. MS are making that cardinal sin in the industry in releasing too many pieces of hardware, and all with confusing marketing or branding. Look at the naming for these systems, then the pricing respective to each one. It's a fucking mess from them. They're getting stomped again by Sony straight out of the gate. Shambles. What the fuck happened to them?

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agni_rzm

Commented on 2020-09-15 20:01:15 In reply to MrWhite

Many don't give a flying F about 4k and 8k or 120fps because they have 1080p 60hz displays and for these people XSS is a god sent. Also, now a lot of people can afford to have the next xbox and playstation both

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nostradamus

Commented on 2020-09-15 21:37:28 In reply to andrewsqual

Posted by andrewsqual

Killzone Shadow Fall had immediate start up at launch on PS4, no logos, no nothing. Like 60fps on Insomniac Games' games years ago, nobody cared or praised it and so IT went the way of the dodo because of that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFGxWgfmbGg

Nobody cared or remembers because its A PIECE OF SHIT game. The only thing that matters. but nice whataboutism.

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b0vril

Commented on 2020-09-15 23:35:16 In reply to MrWhite

Posted by MrWhite

Honestly, what is the point of this console? It's almost as redundant as the X1X is, and it's not even out yet. MS are making that cardinal sin in the industry in releasing too many pieces of hardware, and all with confusing marketing or branding. Look at the naming for these systems, then the pricing respective to each one. It's a fucking mess from them. They're getting stomped again by Sony straight out of the gate. Shambles. What the fuck happened to them?

I think the point of the Series S is to pose as a budget "next-gen" system to try and scrape up as much of a user base as they can right from the get go. Get people into their Xbox ecosystem.

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Sdarts

Commented on 2020-09-15 23:56:14 In reply to andrewsqual

Posted by andrewsqual

Killzone Shadow Fall had immediate start up at launch on PS4, no logos, no nothing. Like 60fps on Insomniac Games' games years ago, nobody cared or praised it and so IT went the way of the dodo because of that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFGxWgfmbGg

Thanks for the info. That's quite cool. I hope that now with NVMe drives being so fast, more developers go this route. Although I get that they want players to see their companies' logos so that the players remember them.

@b0vril:

That's exactly what Microsoft wants. They're not interested that people buy Xboxes, they are interesting in people subscribing to Game Pass. That's their true goal. This has been analyzed and scrutinized endlessly, I feel, by gaming sites, forums, threads, etc.

The Xbox Series S is for people who don't care about graphics or power and are only interested in the games. It's a very cheap way to enter the next generation of games. I know a lot of people who only bought a PS4/XB1 in the past 2 years. So while we've been into this generation since 2013, they're only starting.

Also, I've read a lot of comments of people who will buy it for their kids or as a present to others. And if it actually becomes known in the mainstream consciousness by people as that type of thing, it will be a huge success. That's why GTA 5 is recommended, because everybody knows it, even people outside gaming. So when people go buy a game, of course it's GTA 5, CoD, Fifa, Mario, etc.

If Microsoft markets the hell out of XSS, it will be very successful. It will be the thing people don't think is that expensive and that others would love. If I was Microsoft, I would also make deals with Hollywood studios to show it as that and as fun console to reach as much people as possible. And send as much as they can to "influencers", famous people, etc. If marketed right, XSS will be a great success.

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[quote=andrewsqual]Killzone Shadow Fall had immediate start up at launch on PS4, no logos, no nothing. Like 60fps on Insomniac Games' games years ago, nobody cared or praised it and so IT went the way of the dodo because of that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFGxWgfmbGg[/quote]
Thanks for the info. That's quite cool. I hope that now with NVMe drives being so fast, more developers go this route. Although I get that they want players to see their companies' logos so that the players remember them.

@b0vril:

That's exactly what Microsoft wants. They're not interested that people buy Xboxes, they are interesting in people subscribing to Game Pass. That's their true goal. This has been analyzed and scrutinized endlessly, I feel, by gaming sites, forums, threads, etc.

The Xbox Series S is for people who don't care about graphics or power and are only interested in the games. It's a very cheap way to enter the next generation of games. I know a lot of people who only bought a PS4/XB1 in the past 2 years. So while we've been into this generation since 2013, they're only starting.

Also, I've read a lot of comments of people who will buy it for their kids or as a present to others. And if it actually becomes known in the mainstream consciousness by people as that type of thing, it will be a huge success. That's why GTA 5 is recommended, because everybody knows it, even people outside gaming. So when people go buy a game, of course it's GTA 5, CoD, Fifa, Mario, etc.

If Microsoft markets the hell out of XSS, it will be very successful. It will be the thing people don't think is that expensive and that others would love. If I was Microsoft, I would also make deals with Hollywood studios to show it as that and as fun console to reach as much people as possible. And send as much as they can to "influencers", famous people, etc. If marketed right, XSS will be a great success.

spacemanjupiter

Commented on 2020-09-16 10:41:12

The S will be popular. It's a good move. Most console (and even PC gamers) are casual gamers that don't care about 4k. Most PC rigs on steam are potatoes. People will be able to play certain games at 120 fps on a 4TF machine. 144hz monitors can be had for 200 dollars with HDMI 2.0. People that already have 120hz tv's and monitors will appreciate the higher frame rates in a cheap option. My roommate wants the S. My brother wants the S. Me and my cousin are getting the X.

Regardless of how many fanboys visit forums and comment sections of websites, they are a small minority. There are not as many Sony loyalists as you might think, and a lot of those previous Xbox players that went Sony last gen will not hesitate to go back to Xbox for the right price, the right options, services, and games. So far I see nothing but the right stuff for the Xbox. They may not win next gen but it will be closer than this last one. Comparing Sony and MS is kinda apples and oranges now days anyway. Hardware sales won't matter nearly as much when it comes to debates. Software and services will be king.

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The S will be popular. It's a good move. Most console (and even PC gamers) are casual gamers that don't care about 4k. Most PC rigs on steam are potatoes. People will be able to play certain games at 120 fps on a 4TF machine. 144hz monitors can be had for 200 dollars with HDMI 2.0. People that already have 120hz tv's and monitors will appreciate the higher frame rates in a cheap option. My roommate wants the S. My brother wants the S. Me and my cousin are getting the X.

Regardless of how many fanboys visit forums and comment sections of websites, they are a small minority. There are not as many Sony loyalists as you might think, and a lot of those previous Xbox players that went Sony last gen will not hesitate to go back to Xbox for the right price, the right options, services, and games. So far I see nothing but the right stuff for the Xbox. They may not win next gen but it will be closer than this last one. Comparing Sony and MS is kinda apples and oranges now days anyway. Hardware sales won't matter nearly as much when it comes to debates. Software and services will be king.

MrWhite

Commented on 2020-09-16 19:17:36 In reply to b0vril

Posted by b0vril

Posted by MrWhite

Honestly, what is the point of this console? It's almost as redundant as the X1X is, and it's not even out yet. MS are making that cardinal sin in the industry in releasing too many pieces of hardware, and all with confusing marketing or branding. Look at the naming for these systems, then the pricing respective to each one. It's a fucking mess from them. They're getting stomped again by Sony straight out of the gate. Shambles. What the fuck happened to them?

I think the point of the Series S is to pose as a budget "next-gen" system to try and scrape up as much of a user base as they can right from the get go. Get people into their Xbox ecosystem.

So they're taking the Nintendo route, and at the same time trying to take on Sony with their main console. It's a Switch without all the main appeal of a Switch. Do you see what I'm getting at? Far too many eggs in the same basket for MS. They've been handed a shovel and they've started digging already. It never works out in the industry. Just look at the history of companies that do things like this. HTC being the latest victim in the VR space.

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[quote=b0vril][quote=MrWhite]Honestly, what is the point of this console? It's almost as redundant as the X1X is, and it's not even out yet. MS are making that cardinal sin in the industry in releasing too many pieces of hardware, and all with confusing marketing or branding. Look at the naming for these systems, then the pricing respective to each one. It's a fucking mess from them. They're getting stomped again by Sony straight out of the gate. Shambles. What the fuck happened to them?[/quote]
I think the point of the Series S is to pose as a budget "next-gen" system to try and scrape up as much of a user base as they can right from the get go. Get people into their Xbox ecosystem.[/quote]
So they're taking the Nintendo route, and at the same time trying to take on Sony with their main console. It's a Switch without all the main appeal of a Switch. Do you see what I'm getting at? Far too many eggs in the same basket for MS. They've been handed a shovel and they've started digging already. It never works out in the industry. Just look at the history of companies that do things like this. HTC being the latest victim in the VR space.

b0vril

Commented on 2020-09-16 23:52:34 In reply to MrWhite

Posted by MrWhite

Posted by b0vril

Posted by MrWhite

Honestly, what is the point of this console? It's almost as redundant as the X1X is, and it's not even out yet. MS are making that cardinal sin in the industry in releasing too many pieces of hardware, and all with confusing marketing or branding. Look at the naming for these systems, then the pricing respective to each one. It's a fucking mess from them. They're getting stomped again by Sony straight out of the gate. Shambles. What the fuck happened to them?

I think the point of the Series S is to pose as a budget "next-gen" system to try and scrape up as much of a user base as they can right from the get go. Get people into their Xbox ecosystem.

So they're taking the Nintendo route, and at the same time trying to take on Sony with their main console. It's a Switch without all the main appeal of a Switch. Do you see what I'm getting at? Far too many eggs in the same basket for MS. They've been handed a shovel and they've started digging already. It never works out in the industry. Just look at the history of companies that do things like this. HTC being the latest victim in the VR space.

Maybe. Though unlike Sony or Nintendo, MS has positioned Xbox as a platform that isn't tied to a piece of hardware, so they aren't as necessarily dependent on the success of a piece of hardware.

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[quote=MrWhite][quote=b0vril][quote=MrWhite]Honestly, what is the point of this console? It's almost as redundant as the X1X is, and it's not even out yet. MS are making that cardinal sin in the industry in releasing too many pieces of hardware, and all with confusing marketing or branding. Look at the naming for these systems, then the pricing respective to each one. It's a fucking mess from them. They're getting stomped again by Sony straight out of the gate. Shambles. What the fuck happened to them?[/quote]
I think the point of the Series S is to pose as a budget "next-gen" system to try and scrape up as much of a user base as they can right from the get go. Get people into their Xbox ecosystem.[/quote]
So they're taking the Nintendo route, and at the same time trying to take on Sony with their main console. It's a Switch without all the main appeal of a Switch. Do you see what I'm getting at? Far too many eggs in the same basket for MS. They've been handed a shovel and they've started digging already. It never works out in the industry. Just look at the history of companies that do things like this. HTC being the latest victim in the VR space. [/quote]
Maybe. Though unlike Sony or Nintendo, MS has positioned Xbox as a platform that isn't tied to a piece of hardware, so they aren't as necessarily dependent on the success of a piece of hardware.