LOTR: Battle for Middle Earth 2 video

MOIREbass

Commented on 2006-01-25 15:39:17

i am actually excited for this game, but i am just worried how an RTS will play on the consols.

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Nossy

Commented on 2006-01-25 15:47:07

I think it's possible for a developer to utilize a USB Keyboard/Mouse for their games for the 360.

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GriftGFX

Commented on 2006-01-25 15:52:21 In reply to Nossy

Posted by Nossy

I think it's possible for a developer to utilize a USB Keyboard/Mouse for their games for the 360.

It's absolutly POSSIBLE, although MS has said again and again that they don't want people to see the Mouse/KB as a game controller on the console front..I disagree with this decision--but mostly because I'm an FPS nut who would simply love to see Halo 3 support KB+M properly (say what you will, I used a Frag to play Halo 2..and loved it. Ultimately the device was flawed and probably made the game WORSE, but that was because of the nature of the game and the adapter, not the nature of mouselook)

FFXI certainly supports KB for text input, but doesn't provide mouse support, for whatever reason..some people are pretty opposed to mouselooking on a console..for a variety of reasons that I shall not get into. I can't say I see eye to eye with that opinion, but I won't argue against it (I may beg for support later though, heh)

I think EA's already hinted though that they've come up with some nice new way of controlling this title on a gamepad...guess we'll see soon enough.

Game looks nice though...if it works well, I wouldn't mind seeing more console RTS. Medevial 2:TW would be fun on XBL :)

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[quote=Nossy]I think it's possible for a developer to utilize a USB Keyboard/Mouse for their games for the 360.[/quote]

It's absolutly POSSIBLE, although MS has said again and again that they don't want people to see the Mouse/KB as a game controller on the console front..I disagree with this decision--but mostly because I'm an FPS nut who would simply love to see Halo 3 support KB+M properly (say what you will, I used a Frag to play Halo 2..and loved it.  Ultimately the device was flawed and probably made the game WORSE, but that was because of the nature of the game and the adapter, not the nature of mouselook)

FFXI certainly supports KB for text input, but doesn't provide mouse support, for whatever reason..some people are pretty opposed to mouselooking on a console..for a variety of reasons that I shall not get into.  I can't say I see eye to eye with that opinion, but I won't argue against it (I may beg for support later though, heh)

I think EA's already hinted though that they've come up with some nice new way of controlling this title on a gamepad...guess we'll see soon enough.

Game looks nice though...if it works well, I wouldn't mind seeing more console RTS.  Medevial 2:TW would be fun on XBL :)

FireWire

Commented on 2006-01-25 20:16:03

Don't want to be a hater but this vid is pretty old, i'm gonna get this for pc though :D

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pr0cs

Commented on 2006-01-25 20:18:38

While it doesn't appear to show anything new (your standard RTS with a few tweaks/ideas thrown in).. What i'm most curious about is how this will ever work well on the 360 without using a mouse/keyboard.

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INDIGO

Commented on 2006-01-25 21:01:20

That guy didn't seem to have any problem using whatever input device he was using.

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FireWire

Commented on 2006-01-25 21:04:59

mouse and keyboard it's an pc vid:

tadaa:
"EA released this long video of Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle-Earth 2. It's recorded from the PC-version but it should give you an idea of how the game plays, as it shows 12 minutes of multiplayer action while being commented by one of the developers."

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INDIGO

Commented on 2006-01-25 21:20:57

*smacks forehead*

I guess I could have read a little slower. Thanks. ;)

I'm thinking an auto-centering cursor would work well for an analog stick. Then you could just flick it this way and that, not having to worry about tracking it across the screen so much. The other stick could be used for panning.

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Optimusv2

Commented on 2006-01-25 21:37:20

Microsoft has said numerous times the developers can choose to add keyboard and mouse support....

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FrostFox

Commented on 2006-01-25 23:10:58

Not my type of game but i wont diss it though its for people that like these type....But im glad they put it on the x360 for the people that love it..

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Franner

Commented on 2006-01-25 23:19:48

Hey there, new to the forum but have been viewing for a good few months and I'm extremely impressed Blim. Looking forward to this game and was a huge fan of the first one. I'll be getting this for the 360 as I've neglected my PC for a while now and would like to see this on the widescreen with 5.1. It'll be rather nostalgic! Has to be one of the best looking RTS around.

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FireWire

Commented on 2006-01-25 23:29:57

hey franner welcome to the forums! yeah this game is pretty good lookin, i've played the first iteration of this game and i can tell you it also plays very nice... (dunno how it's gonna play on the 360 though :D)

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Myro

Commented on 2006-01-25 23:32:36 In reply to MOIREbass

Posted by MOIREbass

i am actually excited for this game, but i am just worried how an RTS will play on the consols.

Same here. I've never even played an RTS here though.
Another game to add to my long list. I wish i was David Beckham, he has so much damn money!

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TheNumberOfTheBeast

Commented on 2006-01-25 23:33:48

I'm really looking forward to this game. Can't wait to see how it comes along.

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FireWire

Commented on 2006-01-25 23:33:59 In reply to Myro

Posted by Myro

Same here. I've never even played an RTS here though.
Another game to add to my long list. I wish i was David Beckham, he has so much damn money!

if it's the money you want go for bill gates, he's got more :)

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Burglarize

Commented on 2006-01-26 00:28:01

Yeh but everyone hates Bill Gates... rather unfairly in my opinion but still...

Anyway, RTS on the 360.. it'll never work! Anybody else want to reiterate that again?

Heck, I'm not complaining, we need all the games we can get.

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Franner

Commented on 2006-01-26 00:53:44 In reply to Burglarize

Posted by cooleo_no1

Anyway, RTS on the 360.. it'll never work! Anybody else want to reiterate that again?

Heck, I'm not complaining, we need all the games we can get.

I remember enjoying Command and Conquer on the PS1. Sure when playing on the PC, I tend never to use any of the hot keys and just point and click. Just refine the movement of the cursor for a joypad. It would look stunning! The water effects in this are very pretty.

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Myro

Commented on 2006-01-26 03:34:25 In reply to Burglarize

Posted by FireWire

if it's the money you want go for bill gates, he's got more :)

lol i dont care where i get the money, as long as i get it!

Posted by cooleo_no1

Yeh but everyone hates Bill Gates... rather unfairly in my opinion but still...

Anyway, RTS on the 360.. it'll never work! Anybody else want to reiterate that again?

Heck, I'm not complaining, we need all the games we can get.

I remember people say FPS's on consoles dont work, how wrong they were...

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Inflatable

Commented on 2006-01-26 09:23:36 In reply to Myro

Posted by Myro

I remember people say FPS's on consoles dont work, how wrong they were...

It works, but at a pretty dumbed down gameplaylevel compared to FPS on the PC.. As with RTS, I have no clue how they are gonna do it on the Xbox 360.. RTS requires very fast precision clicking on tiny units among many other untis, bassicly *a lot* of micromanagement etc.. I have no idea how you would control that with a controller, but we'll see what they come up with.. My guess is again dumbed down gameplay, only even much worse then with FPS..

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GriftGFX

Commented on 2006-01-26 18:38:03 In reply to Inflatable

Posted by Inflatable

It works, but at a pretty dumbed down gameplaylevel compared to FPS on the PC.. As with RTS, I have no clue how they are gonna do it on the Xbox 360.. RTS requires very fast precision clicking on tiny units among many other untis, bassicly *a lot* of micromanagement etc.. I have no idea how you would control that with a controller, but we'll see what they come up with.. My guess is again dumbed down gameplay, only even much worse then with FPS..

This opinion isn't very popular with a lot of console gamers--but I totally agree. Give me kb+M pwease MS, don't make me beg :(

I'm a huge FPS nut..I like the idea of console FPS games--and I loved Halo 2--but even then I played the majority of my games with a SmartJoy. Not because I had to, or that it even made it better (it would have, but Halo isn't set up correctly for the SmartJoy to work well with it) but because I wanted to. I can't wait for Halo 3...but man...I'd kill for kb+M support for it. But it's not gonna happen...unless we beg for it.

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[quote=Inflatable]
It works, but at a pretty dumbed down gameplaylevel compared to FPS on the PC.. As with RTS, I have no clue how they are gonna do it on the Xbox 360.. RTS requires very fast precision clicking on tiny units among many other untis, bassicly *a lot* of micromanagement etc.. I have no idea how you would control that with a controller, but we'll see what they come up with.. My guess is again dumbed down gameplay, only even much worse then with FPS..[/quote]

This opinion isn't very popular with a lot of console gamers--but I totally agree.  Give me kb+M pwease MS, don't make me beg :(

I'm a huge FPS nut..I like the idea of console FPS games--and I loved Halo 2--but even then I played the majority of my games with a SmartJoy.  Not because I had to, or that it even made it better (it would have, but Halo isn't set up correctly for the SmartJoy to work well with it) but because I wanted to.  I can't wait for Halo 3...but man...I'd kill for kb+M support for it.  But it's not gonna happen...unless we beg for it.

Inflatable

Commented on 2006-01-26 22:12:40 In reply to GriftGFX

Posted by GriftGFX

This opinion isn't very popular with a lot of console gamers--but I totally agree. Give me kb+M pwease MS, don't make me beg :(

I'm a huge FPS nut..I like the idea of console FPS games--and I loved Halo 2--but even then I played the majority of my games with a SmartJoy. Not because I had to, or that it even made it better (it would have, but Halo isn't set up correctly for the SmartJoy to work well with it) but because I wanted to. I can't wait for Halo 3...but man...I'd kill for kb+M support for it. But it's not gonna happen...unless we beg for it.

It's not gonna happen any time soon (for understandable reasons), so just give it up..

Just stick to FPS on your PC if you really can't adapt to the less(er) control with console FPS games.. It kindof sucks to spend a lot of money on keeping that PC uptotdate, I know, but it's the only way if you want to keep playing FPS like it's meant to be played (same with RTS, although that luckily is usually a bit less demanding on the hardware end then FPS).. ;)

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[quote=GriftGFX]

This opinion isn't very popular with a lot of console gamers--but I totally agree.  Give me kb+M pwease MS, don't make me beg :(

I'm a huge FPS nut..I like the idea of console FPS games--and I loved Halo 2--but even then I played the majority of my games with a SmartJoy.  Not because I had to, or that it even made it better (it would have, but Halo isn't set up correctly for the SmartJoy to work well with it) but because I wanted to.  I can't wait for Halo 3...but man...I'd kill for kb+M support for it.  But it's not gonna happen...unless we beg for it.[/quote]
It's not gonna happen any time soon (for understandable reasons), so just give it up..

Just stick to FPS on your PC if you really can't adapt to the less(er) control with console FPS games.. It kindof sucks to spend a lot of money on keeping that PC uptotdate, I know, but it's the only way if you want to keep playing FPS like it's meant to be played (same with RTS, although that luckily is usually a bit less demanding on the hardware end then FPS).. ;)

Jollipop

Commented on 2006-01-27 02:20:51

I don't think FPS console games should use mouse and keyboard mainly because it uneven's the playing field, but for games like this it would be hard to see how else you could play them successfully.

Does anyone know if huxley is going to support cross platform servers ?

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