4k doesnt magically improve rendering. It takes the same rendering and adds more pixels.
In a generation where resolution is apparently all that fucking matters, a many great people sure have no idea what the fuck increased resolution does.
Clearer, cleaner, and more crisp, less aliasing. It doesnt add graphical effects. In fact, running a game at this high of resolution often times will make glitches and errors in design, texturing, and modelling much more apparent--we went through this at the beginning of last generation with 720p. Increased res should be paired with visuals that actually require said resolution in order to look the way its supposed to.
If anyone thinks you'll be seeing individual threads, facial hairs, and scratches in armor on a 1080p monitor at 6-7ft away you're wrong. At this point in gaming, thats about all 4k (plus aliasing improvements) will offer.
These are a bit dissapointing imo. But at least it doesn't show that horrible fizzly over sharpened filter that's been on past screenshots. I do hope it's a good game though.
Commented on 2015-04-13 20:38:27 In reply to KORNdog
I agree the last screen shots did look worse with that sharpening, though cant say im that bothered about these new ones either, they don't even look that great on my 4k tv.
cma112087 is totally right. People thinks that 4K automatically makes games looks better but it only makes errors and inconsistencies in the rendering more visible (especially when you're looking at zoomed-in 4K pictures in a 1080p monitor that is close to you). It's similar to what happen in movies, when the high resolution makes make-up errors more visible.
To me, crisp graphics is not always better. For example, I think The Order 1886 graphics looks awesome, and they are not crisp at all thanks to a subtle blur and antialiasing. That gives the game a very cinematic vibe that I love, though.
Commented on 2015-04-14 01:02:41 In reply to cma112087
Posted by cma112087
4k doesnt magically improve rendering. It takes the same rendering and adds more pixels.
In a generation where resolution is apparently all that fucking matters, a many great people sure have no idea what the fuck increased resolution does.
Clearer, cleaner, and more crisp, less aliasing. It doesnt add graphical effects. In fact, running a game at this high of resolution often times will make glitches and errors in design, texturing, and modelling much more apparent--we went through this at the beginning of last generation with 720p. Increased res should be paired with visuals that actually require said resolution in order to look the way its supposed to.
If anyone thinks you'll be seeing individual threads, facial hairs, and scratches in armor on a 1080p monitor at 6-7ft away you're wrong. At this point in gaming, thats about all 4k (plus aliasing improvements) will offer.
Pretty much this, glad someone said it. Resolution doesn't magically add things that were not there before. People argue about this because of fanboyism and bigger numbers=better, when its more then that. Pretty much boys fighting over how big their sticks are.
Commented on 2015-04-14 01:06:55 In reply to cma112087
Posted by cma112087
If anyone thinks you'll be seeing individual threads, facial hairs, and scratches in armor on a 1080p monitor at 6-7ft away you're wrong. At this point in gaming, thats about all 4k (plus aliasing improvements) will offer.
This is the only bit I kinda disagree with. Resolution also impacts visual clarity down range.. it's not just about the close up details. I noticed a significant improvement in image quality in the distance @ 1440p over 1080p, and I like it. It helps me see/assess targets more quickly.
Texturing and modeling detail even within this newer generation and including PC are not high enough to warrant the need for 4K. Not to mention the Nvidia 900 series has been quite disappointing with performance. The world, especially the gaming world, is not and will not be ready for 4K for quite some time. The assets aren't there to take advantage of it, and the performance isn't there to render the assets let alone the much higher resolution as well. GPUs won't be ready for probably another 2 years, at which point consoles will yet again be holding the PC back.
I say enjoy your 1080p - 2k gaming and appreciate it because you are going to be dealing with it for quite some time longer. Even wealthy people running Titans in SLI and gaming at 4K isn't really seeing the benefit of 4K other than higher pixel density, which simply shows even more clearly how muddy and low res assets are in reality. 4K is a huge resolution jump, but textures and geometry detail has not been a huge jump so far to match it and take advantage of it.
GOW2 on PS3 looked awesome I thought. It was great on PS2 but just adding resolution I was surprised how good that game could look. GOW1 on other hand shows its age and psp titles too on PS3. So it depends on assets used and resolution can definitely add detail and make it look great. 4K though is simply ridiculous. I can't believe who thought about this. They should make 1440P or some things TV's rather than 4K.
Well, this looks cool and all, I guess, but, games are still not built at the preposterous standards I have for them in my head - 4K actually brings out more of the things I want to be created with greater detail. Maybe games will start going for 80 - 90$ at that point. As for the game itself, yes, this better be good - the wait has been arduous.
Commented on 2015-04-15 13:11:32 In reply to eternaldragonx
Posted by eternaldragonx
These look great, I really hope the 11 people with 4k capable machines will really enjoy this.
Too true. Maybe in 3 years the rest of us can enjoy it in 4k too.
I don't need 4k. TV manages to never look fake with 720p and 1080p. I need better lighting filters, shaders, and textures as well as higher polygon counts. Fully destructible environments would be nice as well. I would prefer for the games to look realistic first, then look realistic in crystal clear quality.
Im so envious of people with proper gaming machines! This day and age my Xbox One & PS4 are just not cutting it just 1 and a half years into their lives!!!
Problem is i just cannot sell either of my consoles due to really liking the exclusives on them be it Tomb Raider, Forza or Uncharted :(
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Commented on 2015-04-13 19:19:29Looks like 4k is not all that...yet
Commented on 2015-04-13 19:25:17 In reply to marklola1982Looks like 4k is not all that...yet
Looks awesome. No more no less.
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Commented on 2015-04-13 19:30:31 In reply to marklola1982Looks like 4k is not all that...yet
Not sure if anyone will be able to play this game at 4K with a decent frame rate. Maybe if you have 2 Titan Z cards Ha ha!!
Commented on 2015-04-13 19:40:36In a generation where resolution is apparently all that fucking matters, a many great people sure have no idea what the fuck increased resolution does.
Clearer, cleaner, and more crisp, less aliasing. It doesnt add graphical effects. In fact, running a game at this high of resolution often times will make glitches and errors in design, texturing, and modelling much more apparent--we went through this at the beginning of last generation with 720p. Increased res should be paired with visuals that actually require said resolution in order to look the way its supposed to.
If anyone thinks you'll be seeing individual threads, facial hairs, and scratches in armor on a 1080p monitor at 6-7ft away you're wrong. At this point in gaming, thats about all 4k (plus aliasing improvements) will offer.
Commented on 2015-04-13 19:43:43These new generation of cards cannot come fast enough...
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Commented on 2015-04-13 20:38:27 In reply to KORNdog
Commented on 2015-04-13 21:43:08To me, crisp graphics is not always better. For example, I think The Order 1886 graphics looks awesome, and they are not crisp at all thanks to a subtle blur and antialiasing. That gives the game a very cinematic vibe that I love, though.
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Commented on 2015-04-14 01:02:41 In reply to cma112087In a generation where resolution is apparently all that fucking matters, a many great people sure have no idea what the fuck increased resolution does.
Clearer, cleaner, and more crisp, less aliasing. It doesnt add graphical effects. In fact, running a game at this high of resolution often times will make glitches and errors in design, texturing, and modelling much more apparent--we went through this at the beginning of last generation with 720p. Increased res should be paired with visuals that actually require said resolution in order to look the way its supposed to.
If anyone thinks you'll be seeing individual threads, facial hairs, and scratches in armor on a 1080p monitor at 6-7ft away you're wrong. At this point in gaming, thats about all 4k (plus aliasing improvements) will offer.
Commented on 2015-04-14 01:06:55 In reply to cma112087
Commented on 2015-04-14 02:05:49I say enjoy your 1080p - 2k gaming and appreciate it because you are going to be dealing with it for quite some time longer. Even wealthy people running Titans in SLI and gaming at 4K isn't really seeing the benefit of 4K other than higher pixel density, which simply shows even more clearly how muddy and low res assets are in reality. 4K is a huge resolution jump, but textures and geometry detail has not been a huge jump so far to match it and take advantage of it.
Commented on 2015-04-14 02:09:11 In reply to spacemanjupiterOr maybe not. I could see it taking 1-2 years. And I'm also interested in performance beyond 60hz.
Commented on 2015-04-14 03:19:08http://i.imgur.com/CAK7c7k.jpg
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Commented on 2015-04-14 03:35:12http://www.digitalhippos.com/articles/were-going-4...
But yes, I agree, the Witcher 3 shots above are underwhelming :)
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Commented on 2015-04-15 13:11:32 In reply to eternaldragonxI don't need 4k. TV manages to never look fake with 720p and 1080p. I need better lighting filters, shaders, and textures as well as higher polygon counts. Fully destructible environments would be nice as well. I would prefer for the games to look realistic first, then look realistic in crystal clear quality.
Commented on 2015-04-15 13:29:23Problem is i just cannot sell either of my consoles due to really liking the exclusives on them be it Tomb Raider, Forza or Uncharted :(