Nier : Launch Trailer

Commented on 2010-04-14 19:46:52

My opinion on this is that it looks horribly bland. The art is not in the least appealing to me. I wish they would have made Cry-On

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Drsw36

Commented on 2010-04-14 20:05:59

I like the art. Its dark and intresting.

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alimokrane

Commented on 2010-04-14 20:13:10 In reply to Xion4360

Will pick this up when it hits the sub £20 which I think will be very very soon!

Posted by Xion4360

I wish they would have made Cry-On

Couldnt agree more! No idea why that game was trashed :S

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60Hz

Commented on 2010-04-14 21:13:30

Hmm, jury is still out on this one, but i hear it's in high demand in jp... i will keep an eye on this for sure though... i love me a good action game (i love a great one even more!)

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VegaMan

Commented on 2010-04-15 01:18:52

Wesker becomes a book!? Cool!

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Andromeda18_

Commented on 2010-04-15 04:13:44

I wish they'd release the Replicant version in the rest of the world.
Square's insane! Just because I'm not Japanese doesn't mean I prefer to play a game as an ugly, old men, instead of as a much easier on the eyes, young guy. To be honest, it's not just the guy that looks better in Nier Replicant, the whole game looks better than Nier Gestalt.

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3monthsp

Commented on 2010-04-15 13:01:53 In reply to Andromeda18_

Posted by Andromeda18_

I wish they'd release the Replicant version in the rest of the world.
Square's insane! Just because I'm not Japanese doesn't mean I prefer to play a game as an ugly, old men, instead of as a much easier on the eyes, young guy. To be honest, it's not just the guy that looks better in Nier Replicant, the whole game looks better than Nier Gestalt.

The whole game looks better on Gestalt ( like you I based myself on nothing, and made it a fact. ha ha), and adding that the plot is not as cliche as the 1000th game with a feminine pre-tennager that squeaks like a girl.... No thank you.

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Andromeda18_

Commented on 2010-04-15 15:27:28

It's true, I won't deny it, the only reason why I said Replicant looks better than Gestalt is because in the videos that I saw it does seem to look better. I'm not going to say that it's a fact (it isn't), it's my personal opinion.

Story and gameplay-wise the two games are pretty much the same. The only difference is that the main characters look different and because one is much younger than the other he's the girl's brother and not her father. Other than that it's the exact same game, so I personally would prefer to play the version with the young guy.

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iosomewhere

Commented on 2010-04-15 17:15:13 In reply to Andromeda18_

Posted by Andromeda18_

I wish they'd release the Replicant version in the rest of the world.
Square's insane! Just because I'm not Japanese doesn't mean I prefer to play a game as an ugly, old men, instead of as a much easier on the eyes, young guy. To be honest, it's not just the guy that looks better in Nier Replicant, the whole game looks better than Nier Gestalt.

And one thing I really dislike is how they yhink western taste is different from Asian taste !

Feels already discriminating !

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Megido

Commented on 2010-04-15 19:24:59

Well you'd be pretty stupid to think that different cultures don't clash either. Just look at what happens when fox learns about eroge-games. They flip out in a moral panic. I'm not saying that i understand the change (then again i'm not sure how much has been changed) but still...Different cultures have different values and i guess i can agree that in western culture a father-daughter bond might be considered stronger than a brother-sister one? The graphics suck ass though, the main guy makes me giggle every time i see him. "What happened to your face!?!"

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IRAIPT0IR

Commented on 2010-04-15 19:47:40

Agreed.

I still dotn know how to think of this yet,need to see some solid gameplay videos.

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Andromeda18_

Commented on 2010-04-16 05:48:04 In reply to Megido

Posted by Megido

I'm not saying that i understand the change (then again i'm not sure how much has been changed) but still...

Supposedly, the difference is purely aesthetical.

Posted by Megido

Different cultures have different values

Exactly, which is why they can't assume everyone in the West thinks the same way. For instance, in Europe people don't care about half the stuff that makes Americans flip.
Personally, I think they did it because they think Westerners prefer characters with a more rugged look. To be honest, judging by the look of games made in the West they're not exactly wrong.

Posted by Megido

i guess i can agree that in western culture a father-daughter bond might be considered stronger than a brother-sister one?

That's because you haven't met my boyfriend and his twin brother. I swear those two are joined at the hip!

Posted by Megido

The graphics suck ass though, the main guy makes me giggle every time i see him. "What happened to your face!?!"

That's exactly why the main character looks better as a young guy. Young people have smoother faces and that's easier to model than a wrinkly face. If this game's graphics were good that wouldn't really be a problem, but as it is the result is really quite bad.

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[quote=Megido]I'm not saying that i understand the change (then again i'm not sure how much has been changed) but still...[/quote]

Supposedly, the difference is purely aesthetical.

[quote=Megido]Different cultures have different values[/quote]

Exactly, which is why they can't assume everyone in the West thinks the same way. For instance, in Europe people don't care about half the stuff that makes Americans flip.
Personally, I think they did it because they think Westerners prefer characters with a more rugged look. To be honest, judging by the look of games made in the West they're not exactly wrong.

[quote=Megido] i guess i can agree that in western culture a father-daughter bond might be considered stronger than a brother-sister one?[/quote]

That's because you haven't met my boyfriend and his twin brother.  I swear those two are joined at the hip!

[quote=Megido] The graphics suck ass though, the main guy makes me giggle every time i see him. "What happened to your face!?!"[/quote]

That's exactly why the main character looks better as a young guy. Young people have smoother faces and that's easier to model than a wrinkly face. If this game's graphics were good that wouldn't really be a problem, but as it is the result is really quite bad.

Megido

Commented on 2010-04-16 14:16:19

A wrinkly face is not that harder to model imo. You sculpt it with zbrush or mudbox, they just fucked the proportions up big time. Looks like an intern did it...actually no, an intern wouldn't churn out a face like that. Actually i personally think it's almost harder to get a good looking smooth face, as it requires a lot more subtlety and finesse if you really want to get some expression and character in there :P

As true as the case with your boyfriend and his brother may be we have to talk in very broad and general terms here, and i don't think that the perception of the bond between parent and child as stronger than that between siblings is wrong in both large parts of Europe and America but ofc it won't apply to everyone.

let me just underline that by saying that i think that this is a very niche game that won't really benefit from this attempt at broadening the range of potential customers. The people who are stoked about it now would be stoked about it with the original scenario intact as well.

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A wrinkly face is not that harder to model imo. You sculpt it with zbrush or mudbox, they just fucked the proportions up big time. Looks like an intern did it...actually no, an intern wouldn't churn out a face like that. Actually i personally think it's almost harder to get a good looking smooth face, as it requires a lot more subtlety and finesse if you really want to get some expression and character in there :P

As true as the case with your boyfriend and his brother may be we have to talk in very broad and general terms here, and i don't think that the perception of the bond between parent and child as stronger than that between siblings is wrong in both large parts of Europe and America but ofc it won't apply to everyone.

let me just underline that by saying that i think that this is a very niche game that won't really benefit from this attempt at broadening the range of potential customers. The people who are stoked about it now would be stoked about it with the original scenario intact as well.