Bethesda starts PAX Prime with a new gameplay video of Rage, showing the Gearheads, a tough bandit clan. It will be out on October 4 in North America and three days later in Europe.
I'm back on the fence again with this one. As a whole i'm expecting it to be a nice adventure type experience, but the combat here i found a bit boring
I find you can often tell these things by watching a video but maybe there is just a lot more to it that isn't shown or indicated that well. Maybe the videos themselves do a poor job
Commented on 2011-08-26 10:36:43 In reply to Frozpot
Posted by Frozpot
Same. It looks like all those sentry bots do is alleviate the need to actually shoot for yourself. It looks pretty stale right now, IMO...
Doesn't help that the person playing this obviously knows where every enemy and or threat is. Not to mention how to handle them. I think part of what makes it look boring, is the person playing it frankly.
Commented on 2011-08-26 11:52:23 In reply to Frozpot
Posted by Frozpot
Same. It looks like all those sentry bots do is alleviate the need to actually shoot for yourself. It looks pretty stale right now, IMO...
this, but i've thought as much since the first gameplay trailer was released. love the style of it, and graphically it's pretty nice. but the gameplay seems a bit underwhelming.
people rave about how Id where the creators of the genre, and for some reason that allows them to be excused for dated design and gameplay? was doom good, hell yes, it was amazing. but for the fathers of the first person shooter, they really arnt doing much to improve upon it.
KORN, mind telling us what you think what would improve upon the FPS genre that hasent been done before.
I seriously cant think of any.
Titles like Bioshock, Borderlands, Deus Ex...etc. they have done so much other than run and gone that if some other developer implement such a thing as well people would still say "oh so they copied *this* and *that* so there is no improvement, boring".
I am just curious to know what you think would be great idea to improve the genre upton, if you can that is.
IMO, if you are going to do something that already has been done before, make sure you do it perfectly, and that is something I see in RAGE.
The gameplay has that slight loot/quest/explore think going on and inventory menu you usually see in RPGs, gunplay is great, visuals are unique and amazing, it runs 60fps especially on consoles and STILL looks one of the best titles. I think RAGE is easily one of the best upcoming titles this year even though it doesnt improve the genre (which is very hard to do these days with so much FPS on the market), it sure as hell seem to deliver atleast.
its weird, it seemed like when it was announced everyone was excited and i was like "meh boring" but as gameplay videos and interviews have come out i want it more and more but people that were excited before hate it or something
impressed, shame there is so many other great games coming out near the release.
ID usually makes fun shooters.. But I'm not really impressed by the texturedetail in this clip.. Hopefully this was the consoleversion and PC will be better..
Commented on 2011-08-26 16:39:25 In reply to Inflatable
Posted by Inflatable
ID usually makes fun shooters.. But I'm not really impressed by the texturedetail in this clip.. Hopefully this was the consoleversion and PC will be better..
This was PC version! Notice the "Enter" prompt come up?
Commented on 2011-08-26 16:43:01 In reply to ManThatYouFear
Posted by ManThatYouFear
i think thats kind of the problem, i dont think you can..
of course you can. it's difficult, but surely the inventors of the genre has some idea's up their sleeves aside from "point and shoot" but then again, Id has never being about much aside from the tech, so it's not really surprising to me that the game is how it is. even if it's just borrowing elements from multiple games and genres and combine them to make something different (esentially what games like borderlands or deus ex or even uncharted do). RAGE is as straight forward as an FPS can get. there is no deviation from the path they created what? 20 years ago. i just kinda wished they tried to do a bit more then just "run and gun". because atm, and as with doom 3, i'm seeing great tech and art mixed with quite dated design.
and no, rage shouldnt be exactly like killzone since it borrows far too many elements from COD, but i would like the combat to at least be as frenetic and brutal as killzone. combat is what is killing rage for me atm. the enemies have great reaction to impacts, but they act dumb, the guns sound weak, and as a result combat looks very unsatisfying and "hollow". as froz said....stale. doom 3 seemed to have nailed the combat better then this. which makes it even more depressing that the next game from that studio has made those elements worse.
i want to like it, since it's clear it's a big budget, well polished release. but footage has done nothing but put me off. i just dont think it looks particularly entertaining.
The diference KORN here is that RAGE "will" have awesome gunplay and it will still be a FPS not a RPG not a racing game, so in that aspect it is indeed making something diferent, there is no compromise in gameplay.
I don't actually know what are you seeing or if you are mistaken as to what is RAGE, is not a regular FPS, it has sidemissions, loot, inventory, racing, main missions, mini games, its not just pouint a to point b shooter.
And the other thing you metion well thats subjective because I think it looks great in that deparment.
I agree with what some folks are saying, that this game looks a bit stale in terms of the action. I feel alot of shooters just give the player a pile weapons and dump a load of enemies at him. The player just has to strife around the environment shooting until the enemies are dead; there is little else going on in alot of shooters.
I always think battles with one or two super smart A.I.. would make for a much more interesting game. Make it less about big bangs and more about trying to out whit the foes.
Commented on 2011-08-26 16:59:42 In reply to IRAIPT0IR
Posted by IRAIPT0IR
The diference KORN here is that RAGE "will" have awesome gunplay and it will still be a FPS not a RPG not a racing game, so in that aspect it is indeed making something diferent, there is no compromise in gameplay.
I don't actually know what are you seeing or if you are mistaken as to what is RAGE, is not a regular FPS, it has sidemissions, loot, inventory, racing, main missions, mini games, its not just pouint a to point b shooter.
And the other thing you metion well thats subjective because I think it looks great in that deparment.
i know what elements make up the game, and the lesser elements look fine (exploration, talking to characters, etc) but the core of the experience is going to be driving combat, and shooting. and both of those elements look kinda wank. driving has been reported as being far too floaty in previews and by far the weakest element of the game. and footage shows just how tame the combat looks. it should be viceral, and brutal, and intense and exciting. but it looks boring. spawn a few spider-bots, and shoot some weak sounding guns...combat is just too stale imo. especially for a game called RAGE and especially for a game that is very much a shooter created by the people who pretty much created the genre. hell, the combat in bodycount looks more impactfull and impressive then this, and that game is shite.
Commented on 2011-08-26 17:30:24 In reply to GangStarr
Posted by Sath
KORN, mind telling us what you think what would improve upon the FPS genre that hasent been done before.
.
It's not about doing something new or improving it necessarily, but at least meeting the standards of the better shooters out there. You don't have to reinvent the wheel (it's a shooter at it's core) but it should roll as well as possible. I'm just not seeing a great shooter- I'm seeing what will ultimately be a run-of-the-mill shooter with nice graphics (low-rez textures not withstanding). I could be wrong.
Posted by crookedmind
Doesn't help that the person playing this obviously knows where every enemy and or threat is. Not to mention how to handle them. I think part of what makes it look boring, is the person playing it frankly.
That's even worse. I've been playing Halo 1 (as well as Uncharted 2 and Gears 2) recently, and I am shocked at how incredible the game-play is. The AI is just fantastic, and it doesn't matter one whit beyond the first strike that you knew where those enemies start in whatever engagement. This game doesn't seem to even need the 60 fps as the play is looking so slow. They should just drop it and put in destruction, lol.
Posted by GangStarr
its weird, it seemed like when it was announced everyone was excited and i was like "meh boring" but as gameplay videos and interviews have come out i want it more and more but people that were excited before hate it or something
impressed, shame there is so many other great games coming out near the release.
I've always been on the fence with this game. The bad part is that I've always wanted to like it, but the more I see of it, it just seems to be lacking something special...
How anyone can say the combat looks boring is beyond me. To me it just looks like the same kind of combat found in Half Life 2, and oh boy, was that game boring? Yeah, that's exactly what I thought too.
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Commented on 2011-08-26 07:08:46
Commented on 2011-08-26 07:18:42
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Commented on 2011-08-26 08:16:59
Commented on 2011-08-26 08:32:20Great visuals, detail, music, artdesign, intense firefights, just great.
Day 1 purchase!
Commented on 2011-08-26 09:12:50
Commented on 2011-08-26 09:13:40 In reply to SathGreat visuals, detail, music, artdesign, intense firefights, just great.
The game looks better and better.^^
Not sure if i will have enough money to buy it day1. Before that i need to get gears 3, 4200MSP card and few games that i have missed before.
Commented on 2011-08-26 10:36:43 In reply to Frozpot
Commented on 2011-08-26 11:52:23 In reply to Frozpotpeople rave about how Id where the creators of the genre, and for some reason that allows them to be excused for dated design and gameplay? was doom good, hell yes, it was amazing. but for the fathers of the first person shooter, they really arnt doing much to improve upon it.
Commented on 2011-08-26 13:31:56
Commented on 2011-08-26 13:51:35I seriously cant think of any.
Titles like Bioshock, Borderlands, Deus Ex...etc. they have done so much other than run and gone that if some other developer implement such a thing as well people would still say "oh so they copied *this* and *that* so there is no improvement, boring".
I am just curious to know what you think would be great idea to improve the genre upton, if you can that is.
IMO, if you are going to do something that already has been done before, make sure you do it perfectly, and that is something I see in RAGE.
The gameplay has that slight loot/quest/explore think going on and inventory menu you usually see in RPGs, gunplay is great, visuals are unique and amazing, it runs 60fps especially on consoles and STILL looks one of the best titles. I think RAGE is easily one of the best upcoming titles this year even though it doesnt improve the genre (which is very hard to do these days with so much FPS on the market), it sure as hell seem to deliver atleast.
Commented on 2011-08-26 13:57:45 In reply to Sath
Commented on 2011-08-26 14:03:00
Commented on 2011-08-26 14:08:31 In reply to Sath.
Commented on 2011-08-26 14:22:56impressed, shame there is so many other great games coming out near the release.
Commented on 2011-08-26 14:57:14 In reply to Seth
Commented on 2011-08-26 15:24:32
Commented on 2011-08-26 15:37:51Day one for me, I agree with Sath though, this game will blend various genres perfectly not found in shoters this days.
Commented on 2011-08-26 16:39:25 In reply to Inflatable
Commented on 2011-08-26 16:43:01 In reply to ManThatYouFearand no, rage shouldnt be exactly like killzone since it borrows far too many elements from COD, but i would like the combat to at least be as frenetic and brutal as killzone. combat is what is killing rage for me atm. the enemies have great reaction to impacts, but they act dumb, the guns sound weak, and as a result combat looks very unsatisfying and "hollow". as froz said....stale. doom 3 seemed to have nailed the combat better then this. which makes it even more depressing that the next game from that studio has made those elements worse.
i want to like it, since it's clear it's a big budget, well polished release. but footage has done nothing but put me off. i just dont think it looks particularly entertaining.
Commented on 2011-08-26 16:50:20I don't actually know what are you seeing or if you are mistaken as to what is RAGE, is not a regular FPS, it has sidemissions, loot, inventory, racing, main missions, mini games, its not just pouint a to point b shooter.
And the other thing you metion well thats subjective because I think it looks great in that deparment.
Commented on 2011-08-26 16:52:56I always think battles with one or two super smart A.I.. would make for a much more interesting game. Make it less about big bangs and more about trying to out whit the foes.
Commented on 2011-08-26 16:59:42 In reply to IRAIPT0IRI don't actually know what are you seeing or if you are mistaken as to what is RAGE, is not a regular FPS, it has sidemissions, loot, inventory, racing, main missions, mini games, its not just pouint a to point b shooter.
And the other thing you metion well thats subjective because I think it looks great in that deparment.
Commented on 2011-08-26 17:30:24 In reply to GangStarr.
impressed, shame there is so many other great games coming out near the release.
Commented on 2011-08-26 17:43:37