Spectral Force 3 trailer

Commented on 2006-05-15 22:11:36

I don't remember a cell shading game catching my attention since Zelda: The Wind Waker.

And it seems that it wont change for now =)

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roxwell

Commented on 2006-05-15 22:24:52

I think i'll leave this one to Jolli :P

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Bossz

Commented on 2006-05-15 22:30:42

Wow, you have to be pretty sad if you base your decisions on graphics alone. Graphics aren't important, gameplay is. If I had to choose between a game with good graphics and poor gameplay and game with great gameplay and ok graphics I would choose the latter everytime.

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QuezcatoL

Commented on 2006-05-15 22:35:51

I hope it will be good..however was impossible to judge it from this trailer.

Btw bossz i rather take story/characters then gameplay,and before someone write,"read a book then" look at FF8 did anyone really like to fight with that shit system?

The story made us go through each battle/boss not because of the gameplay or battle system.

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Lobogaara

Commented on 2006-05-15 22:36:56

Boosz couldnt agree more pro evo is a fine example of that and so is for alot of ppl 1.6 counterstrike to its source counterpart next generation isant just about graphics or a new paint job its also about being able to create and do new orginal things...anyway you never know it could be quite a good rpg just got to wait and see.

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Manager

Commented on 2006-05-15 22:38:49 In reply to Bossz

Posted by Bossz

Wow, you have to be pretty sad if you base your decisions on graphics alone. Graphics aren't important, gameplay is. If I had to choose between a game with good graphics and poor gameplay and game with great gameplay and ok graphics I would choose the latter everytime.

Of course it's not all about graphics. The Spectral Force series is quite famous as far as I've understood, and I've actually read about the third one quite alot. Anyway, the (in-game) combat images explains themselves pretty much.
And - RPGs doesn't interest me a bit. It's sad, I know, but I can't play offline RPGs. I got boored with Final Fantasy X, Kingdom Hearts was OK but nothing more - for me. I even stopped playing WoW after like two weeks, and that's scary.

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QuezcatoL

Commented on 2006-05-15 22:42:51 In reply to Manager

Posted by Manager

Of course it's not all about graphics. The Spectral Force series is quite famous as far as I've understood, and I've actually read about the third one quite alot. Anyway, the (in-game) combat images explains themselves pretty much.
And - RPGs doesn't interest me a bit. It's sad, I know, but I can't play offline RPGs. I got boored with Final Fantasy X, Kingdom Hearts was OK but nothing more - for me. I even stopped playing WoW after like two weeks, and that's scary.

FFX/kingdom hearts even made me sick...

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LightHeaven

Commented on 2006-05-15 22:46:13

Is it just my impression or did you say that this trailer shows in game graphics using Cell shadding?

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omegaheat

Commented on 2006-05-15 22:46:55 In reply to Bossz

Perhaps you won't be so defensive if you paid $60 for a game that could have been done on your last generation machine. Game developers are using the excuse that games are costing $10 more than last gen games because of development cost and larger development teams. That indeed maybe true, but consumers aren't stupid either. We can tell when a developer has bent over backwards to deliver something quality and when a developer put something on the shelves to claim some poor casual gamer as a sucker. Keep in mind that Gears of War has development team of about 30 people. Now that is a game worthy of the extra $10. I think that's why people are so harsh on graphics now. It's supposed to be pretty because there really aren't any limitations on visuals with the new hardware.

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Manager

Commented on 2006-05-15 22:48:14 In reply to Lobogaara

Posted by Lobogaara

Boosz couldnt agree more pro evo is a fine example of that and so is for alot of ppl 1.6 counterstrike to its source counterpart next generation isant just about graphics or a new paint job its also about being able to create and do new orginal things...anyway you never know it could be quite a good rpg just got to wait and see.

I don't think PES has crappy graphics. I've played the series almost 3-4 days a week since PES2 came out, and the animation system makes up for the poor "textures". I choose the PES graphics over Fifa any day.
People always use PES in the gameplay-vs-graphics-discussions, but I don't get it. It's not THAT bad. The faces looks real, and it's hard to have a fluent framerate when 22 players are running around on the pitch, doing advanced animations.

Posted by LightHeaven

Is it just my impression or did you say that this trailer shows in game graphics using Cell shadding?

I'm sorry, nah - I can't read or understand Japanese, and I really don't know much about cel-shading. But the game uses some kind of cel-shading CG for the movie sequences, as you can see here:
http://www.xboxyde.com/news_2492_en.html

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[quote=Lobogaara]Boosz couldnt agree more pro evo is a fine example of that and so is for alot of ppl 1.6 counterstrike to its source counterpart next generation isant just about graphics or a new paint job its also about being able to create and do new orginal things...anyway you never know it could be quite a good rpg just got to wait and see.[/quote]

I don't think PES has crappy graphics. I've played the series almost 3-4 days a week since PES2 came out, and the animation system makes up for the poor "textures". I choose the PES graphics over Fifa any day.
People always use PES in the gameplay-vs-graphics-discussions, but I don't get it. It's not THAT bad. The faces looks real, and it's hard to have a fluent framerate when 22 players are running around on the pitch, doing advanced animations.

[quote=LightHeaven]Is it just my impression or did you say that this trailer shows in game graphics using Cell shadding?[/quote]

I'm sorry, nah - I can't read or understand Japanese, and I really don't know much about cel-shading. But the game uses some kind of cel-shading CG for the movie sequences, as you can see here:
http://www.xboxyde.com/news_2492_en.html

ManThatYouFear

Commented on 2006-05-15 23:18:23

*goes back to world of warcraft hoping one day there will be a upcoming game to bring him off it apart from dead rising and halo 3*

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Ajsomfan

Commented on 2006-05-16 00:16:08 In reply to QuezcatoL

Posted by QuezcatoL

look at FF8 did anyone really like to fight with that shit system?

No they did not, and thats what made it so booooring, muahaha...

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El_Cadz

Commented on 2006-05-16 00:21:15

Interesting, I certainly hope this game made it outside Asia.

Ps: I heard that Far East Of Eden: Ziria is coming in North America, any truth to that?

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Jollipop

Commented on 2006-05-16 00:55:27 In reply to ManThatYouFear

Posted by ManThatYouFear

*goes back to world of warcraft hoping one day there will be a upcoming game to bring him off it apart from dead rising and halo 3*

You play WoW "that's too bad my friend"

This game looks awesome.. Looks like an anime, too be hnest i couldn't care less if this was stuck in 2D i would still get it .. :P (if it ever gets it's ass to europe that is)

From what i can tell there is no in game graphics in that trailer, reminds me of a tales of game though.

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davidnay

Commented on 2006-05-16 01:31:54 In reply to Bossz

Posted by Bossz

Wow, you have to be pretty sad if you base your decisions on graphics alone. Graphics aren't important, gameplay is. If I had to choose between a game with good graphics and poor gameplay and game with great gameplay and ok graphics I would choose the latter everytime.

In this day and age graphics ARE important, and so is gameplay. But just because someone says 'wow these graphics are awesome' doesn't mean they're gonna buy the game based soley on that. But graphics are the first impression and they play a large part in making the gaming experience pleasant.

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Jollipop

Commented on 2006-05-16 01:53:31 In reply to El_Cadz

Posted by El_Cadz

Interesting, I certainly hope this game made it outside Asia.

Ps: I heard that Far East Of Eden: Ziria is coming in North America, any truth to that?

AHHHhh man i hope so , where did you hear that from ?

In this day and age graphics ARE important, and so is gameplay. But just because someone says 'wow these graphics are awesome' doesn't mean they're gonna buy the game based soley on that. But graphics are the first impression and they play a large part in making the gaming experience pleasant.

I agree to some extent, but it's clear to pretty much anyone that these are nothing more than scenes captured from FMV sequences.

It seems to me that the art style and voice acting is of a pretty high qauilty so hopefully the game will be decent.

This game comes out on the 29th of June so hopefully Blim will test it out for us :P

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El_Cadz

Commented on 2006-05-16 02:21:14

Just found this, while searching:
http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2006/1247.html

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Jollipop

Commented on 2006-05-16 02:28:42

Hudson stated that there was a definite possibility they will include the original Japanese dialogue with English subtitles in addition to the English voice-overs, but that since they are so early in the localization process, anything can happen.

Yippie!!!!

And news of a new RPG for the 360, I guess they must like devloping for the 360.

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El_Cadz

Commented on 2006-05-16 02:49:49

After Enchanted Arms and Far East Of Eden, Im starting to have hopes for this one getting released here!

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wuffyx

Commented on 2006-05-16 03:29:12

Very good news!!! I was looking forward to getting Ziria as well!

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graf1k

Commented on 2006-05-16 06:18:06 In reply to Aquan0x

Posted by Aquan0x

I don't remember a cell shading game catching my attention since Zelda: The Wind Waker.

And it seems that it wont change for now =)

Okami looks awesome IMO.

This game on the other hand...well, the Japanese can have it.

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Jollipop

Commented on 2006-05-16 08:22:23 In reply to graf1k

Posted by graf1k

Okami looks awesome IMO.

This game on the other hand...well, the Japanese can have it.

And why is that, have you played it, have you seen it in motion even ?

Okami looks nice if you can get past the jaggied mess that is the PS2.

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killklamer

Commented on 2006-05-16 08:56:17

looks awesome ^^ :D and i rather pla ff8 than ff7 any day of the week but i got a feeling of starting to make my own game on alundra 1 :P ^^ a remake :D

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bloke

Commented on 2006-05-16 14:08:05

Wow, they've shown like zero gameplay or ingame graphics in that trailer.

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Jollipop

Commented on 2006-05-16 15:24:09 In reply to bloke

Posted by bloke

Wow, they've shown like zero gameplay or ingame graphics in that trailer.

3 in game pics .. it's no graphical master piece but looks nice enough to me.

http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/2536/946_...

http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/2536/946_...

http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/2536/946_...

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