Screens for Tony Hawk's Pro Skater HD

Covert

Commented on 2012-01-21 00:49:09

Looks legit. I wonder if they'll be taking a leaf out of SKATE's book when it comes to gameplay.

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KORNdog

Commented on 2012-01-21 01:17:09 In reply to Covert

Posted by Covert

Looks legit. I wonder if they'll be taking a leaf out of SKATE's book when it comes to gameplay.

I fucking well hope not. Skate made skatebording a chore to play. Old school, unrealistic crazy trick combo tony hawks was and always will be more fun to play.

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crookedmind

Commented on 2012-01-21 06:47:56 In reply to KORNdog

Posted by KORNdog

I fucking well hope not. Skate made skatebording a chore to play. Old school, unrealistic crazy trick combo tony hawks was and always will be more fun to play.

... For people who don't know dick about skateboarding.

Seriously, why would you play a Hockey game if you don't know shit about hockey, other than to keep your 8 year old nephew amused?

Exactly. Tony Hawk was a gem when it was first released because 'actual' skateboarders were involved, and it was one of a kind for the time. Skate offers a more realistic (though sometimes not close), and a more accurate approach to the sport which it deserves.

Tony Hawk compared to Skate is like NFL Blitz versus NFL 2K5... A fucking joke.

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KORNdog

Commented on 2012-01-21 14:25:09 In reply to crookedmind

Posted by crookedmind

... For people who don't know dick about skateboarding.

Seriously, why would you play a Hockey game if you don't know shit about hockey, other than to keep your 8 year old nephew amused?

Exactly. Tony Hawk was a gem when it was first released because 'actual' skateboarders were involved, and it was one of a kind for the time. Skate offers a more realistic (though sometimes not close), and a more accurate approach to the sport which it deserves.

Tony Hawk compared to Skate is like NFL Blitz versus NFL 2K5... A fucking joke.

A game is still a game, it's there to give the player a sense of fun. Skate, with it's retarded controls and grounded approach to skating could never achieve that, early tony hawks titles achieved that with ease. Same goes for ssx, burnout, motorstorm. Are amped, GT, or daka rally more realistic and grounded games? Yes. Are they more fun? No.

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b0vril

Commented on 2012-01-21 15:43:27 In reply to KORNdog

huh,

I guess all that fun I had in skate was fake.

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Xoar

Commented on 2012-01-21 15:51:06

Never been a Skater Boi or an emo but i enjoyed the very first Tony Hawk game so might check this out, is it a Arcade/PSN title?

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FormlessLikeWater

Commented on 2012-01-21 20:58:20

Or how about people find different games fun and both can fucking co-exist. Gamers always whine about the lack of diversity in games, but complain when a game isn't "fun" by their definition.

It is a downloadable title Xoar.

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DevilInside23

Commented on 2012-01-22 12:11:10 In reply to KORNdog

Posted by KORNdog

[quote=KORNdog]

A game is still a game, it's there to give the player a sense of fun. Skate, with it's retarded controls and grounded approach to skating could never achieve that, early tony hawks titles achieved that with ease. Same goes for ssx, burnout, motorstorm. Are amped, GT, or daka rally more realistic and grounded games? Yes. Are they more fun? No.

Sure burnout is fun but I enjoy Forza at least as much as I enjoy Arcade Racers. Amped, was much more fun to me than SSX, Cool Boarders etc. It depends on personal preferences . I'm digging the SKATE-approach but I ( ex-Skater and Snake/Streetboarder for the last 15years) have a bit of a hard time doing always the right things with the analog sticks...

Hope they haven't changed the gameplay of the old and good THPS.

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Xoar

Commented on 2012-01-22 13:01:59 In reply to FormlessLikeWater

Posted by FormlessLikeWater

It is a downloadable title Xoar.

Nice one, will defo check it out then!

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eeZee

Commented on 2012-01-22 13:29:07 In reply to crookedmind

Posted by crookedmind

Seriously, why would you play a Hockey game if you don't know shit about hockey, other than to keep your 8 year old nephew amused?

Two things:

1. Games are not the activities they represent. They are entertainment products. If one is such a hockey nut, I suggest he or she drop the twinsticks and pick up a hockey stick. Unless you're a former pro who's been paralyzed and now can only connect with his former love through digital media, I really see _NO_ validity to the idea that games should be exclusively made for and played by those who are real-life enthusiasts of the subject.

2. We don't have to choose between simulation and arcade stylings. There's room for both in the market and the fact that we can bring up so many arcade/sim pairings is proof of that. That said, TH is and has always been an arcade game. Respect that fans no more want to see Skate in their Hawk than you want Wipeout in your Forza or Halo in your Falshpoint (or whatever your genre and style of choice is).

Oh, and this kinda looks crappy. ;)

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[quote=crookedmind]Seriously, why would you play a Hockey game if you don't know shit about hockey, other than to keep your 8 year old nephew amused?[/quote]

Two things:

1.  Games are not the activities they represent.  They are entertainment products.  If one is such a hockey nut, I suggest he or she drop the twinsticks and pick up a hockey stick.  Unless you're a former pro who's been paralyzed and now can only connect with his former love through digital media, I really see _NO_ validity to the idea that games should be exclusively made for and played by those who are real-life enthusiasts of the subject.

2.  We don't have to choose between simulation and arcade stylings.  There's room for both in the market and the fact that we can bring up so many arcade/sim pairings is proof of that.  That said, TH is and has always been an arcade game.  Respect that fans no more want to see Skate in their Hawk than you want Wipeout in your Forza or Halo in your Falshpoint (or whatever your genre and style of choice is).

Oh, and this kinda looks crappy. ;)

Frozpot

Commented on 2012-01-23 03:40:57

^QFT. It's this elusive though process that makes these conversations bearable, lol.

This game better be dirt cheap, IMO...

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GriftGFX

Commented on 2012-01-23 03:49:03 In reply to crookedmind

Posted by crookedmind

... For people who don't know dick about skateboarding.

Seriously, why would you play a Hockey game if you don't know shit about hockey, other than to keep your 8 year old nephew amused?

Exactly. Tony Hawk was a gem when it was first released because 'actual' skateboarders were involved, and it was one of a kind for the time. Skate offers a more realistic (though sometimes not close), and a more accurate approach to the sport which it deserves.

Tony Hawk compared to Skate is like NFL Blitz versus NFL 2K5... A fucking joke.

Because THPS was (was.. it's been a while) fun. Because combos and score attack games are fun. Because games are for fun.

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crookedmind

Commented on 2012-01-23 05:09:13 In reply to GriftGFX

Posted by GriftGFX

Because THPS was (was.. it's been a while) fun. Because combos and score attack games are fun. Because games are for fun.

I agree. It was fun. But saying one is a chore is merely comparing tastes. You wouldn't play a simulation game going into it thinking, "this is going to be some arcadie madness..." or vise versa. I happen to think Skate is better because the level of fun it gives me without getting too bubbly like Tony Hawk. But I also think well-made sports games are not for the mindless or majority.

To each his own, but if you don't know dick about it, it's not going to be as fun for you as it is someone who does. This goes with not being any good either for those who know about it. A level of skill and taste I suppose.

eeZee, you completely contradict #1 with your #2. You're saying games shouldn't be made for enthusiasts, but then you say there is room for both...
My argument had mainly to do with arguing opinions, like a moron. No one is saying they all need to be simulators. And it is possible to do both the activity in real life, and expect a certain level of realism in a video game. And why the hell not? We're not talking about big things like total simulation, it's the difference between a 5 foot air and 500 foot air. Throwing a football, or throwing a cow. Accuracy.

If all games were blown-out-of-proportion-bullshit, what would you have? Cherios that anyone can eat. No thanks, go play in your own sandbox. My idea of entertainment isn't the same as yours, does that mean they shouldn't make something for me without degrading to total mediocrity?

I think as a gamer, you should be able to have that level of fun that comes from non-wacky-gameplay too. And Skate provides that.

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[quote=GriftGFX]

Because THPS was (was.. it's been a while) fun. Because combos and score attack games are fun. Because games are for fun.[/quote]

I agree. It was fun. But saying one is a chore is merely comparing tastes. You wouldn't play a simulation game going into it thinking, "this is going to be some arcadie madness..." or vise versa. I happen to think Skate is better because the level of fun it gives me without getting too bubbly like Tony Hawk. But I also think well-made sports games are not for the mindless or majority.

To each his own, but if you don't know dick about it, it's not going to be as fun for you as it is someone who does. This goes with not being any good either for those who know about it. A level of skill and taste I suppose.

eeZee, you completely contradict #1 with your #2. You're saying games shouldn't be made for enthusiasts, but then you say there is room for both...
My argument had mainly to do with arguing opinions, like a moron. No one is saying they all need to be simulators. And it is possible to do both the activity in real life, and expect a certain level of realism in a video game. And why the hell not? We're not talking about big things like total simulation, it's the difference between a 5 foot air and 500 foot air. Throwing a football, or throwing a cow. Accuracy.

If all games were blown-out-of-proportion-bullshit, what would you have? Cherios that [i]anyone[/i] can eat. No thanks, go play in your own sandbox. My idea of entertainment isn't the same as yours, does that mean they shouldn't make something for me without degrading to total mediocrity?

I think as a gamer, you should be able to have that level of fun that comes from non-wacky-gameplay too. And Skate provides that.

PlumbDrumb

Commented on 2012-01-23 08:04:14

maybe he just has multiple frames of mind.

That's okay

edit
let me rephrase. His enthusiasm may be born of the more outrageous arcade style of Tony Hawk, yet he sees that Skate (whatever game play that may entail) has it's place for those who wish to pursue it.

blah blah blah. Let's argue.

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GriftGFX

Commented on 2012-01-23 09:28:47 In reply to PlumbDrumb

Posted by PlumbDrumb

blah blah blah. Let's argue.

WRONG. We should NOT argue.

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PlumbDrumb

Commented on 2012-01-23 09:32:49

what should we do?

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Frozpot

Commented on 2012-01-23 16:41:09

I'd make a suggestion, but I'm not sure it's legal ;)...

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eeZee

Commented on 2012-01-24 12:52:48 In reply to crookedmind

Posted by crookedmind

eeZee, you completely contradict #1 with your #2. You're saying games shouldn't be made for enthusiasts, but then you say there is room for both...

"exclusively" was the operative word from #1.

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eeZee

Commented on 2012-01-24 13:24:24

And let me clarify a bit in case there's still any confusion. _A GAME_ can certainly be made exclusively for hardcore fans, but games in general should not.

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