Commented on 2009-08-21 12:36:29 In reply to nostradamus
Posted by nostradamus
great in some ares, not so... almost bad in others (blue people).
Erm, you do know they are ALIENS right? What a stupid complaint. Still, the movie of course looks way more impressive than the game but Cameron claims to have been deeply involved with developing the game during the entire time the movie has been made so there could well be that incredibly rare thing known as a good movie game here...
I think he is talking about the graphics and not the art.
Ok, I see, he means that the graphics of the blue people look bad but I still think it's a weird thing to single out as a flaw. The thing that looks bad to me is the overall poor framerate of the whole trailer, hopefully the final product can manage a decent locked framerate.
Ok, I see, he means that the graphics of the blue people look bad but I still think it's a weird thing to single out as a flaw.
No, it really isn't.
I'm gonna see the movie for the character characterization, not even remotelly interested in that generic shooting game shown in this trailer or the movie. Now, the way they moved, had low poly models, and even didn't reacted among each other with facial animation, make'em look like a Generation old dead dolls.
Screams Movie Tie-In, in the worst aspect of It with shitty narrative effort.
After seeing the trailer for the movie, I didn't "geek out" at all, as I was expecting to from all the hype. I think of lot of the designs are lame and the overall feel I get from the movie just doesn't do it for me.
Graphics seem pretty good, but the subject matter doesn't seem right for a really good game.
I'm actually hopeful that this will not turn out to be your typical movie game. It's been developed for quite a few years now, so that it could be released in conjunction with the movie's release and not be a rushed project. Furthermore, Cameron's been involved quite a bit in the game's development, ensuring that the quality is up to scratch.
Anyway, the graphics are mixed to say the least; the environment's graphics are absolutely stunning, but the character models - especially the alien... things - are almost PS2 quality. Hopefully that's fixed before release. The most worrying aspect, however, is the framerate. Very, very bad in that regard.
We'll hopefully see a lot more of this before release, but initial signs are good - the game looks like it could be fun to play, judging from the gameplay snippets showcased in the trailer.
Commented on 2009-08-21 19:56:01 In reply to Nietzsche
@nietzsche: exactly my sentiments! after all the hype, and being a huge cameron-fan i can`t help but "not getting it" ... the aliens look similarily unsympathetic as the things is this (french?) animation movie with madonna voicing some princess - can`t remember title right now. also: everything is too colorful. you know, like world of warcraft :) everything looks 100% artificial. as in not believable.
for now i have to agree, very underwhelming movie trailer, and the game trailer, while technically ok, suffers from the same problems, imho.
Commented on 2009-08-22 09:02:20 In reply to Nietzsche
Posted by Nietzsche
After seeing the trailer for the movie, I didn't "geek out" at all, as I was expecting to from all the hype.
I agree and it's funny, but people said the same kind of things about Titanic and we all know what happened when that film finally was released. Cameron is a great story teller so we have to sort of reserve judgment and give him the benefit of the doubt that he knows what he's doing.
Being one of the people who actually saw the 15 minute IMAX-3D preview I can say the tiny trailer everyone else saw today doesn't even come close to what I saw in theater. Avatar is a HUGE epic being told in a kind Jungle Book meets Tarzan fashion.
Cameron is most obviously telling a story from the perspective of the aliens. And it really doesn't feel right to call them "alien", seeing as how this is THEIR world they're defending against human invasion. I also don't think it's an accident that Cameron has the Na-avi (what they call themselves) all sounding like Africans.
And while I agree with you that the visual spectacle didn't blow my mind, there seems to be a very complex character-driven story underneath it all. A man who can't walk is suddenly and literally living a new life by way of some type of mind transfer. As the preview went on there seemed to be a moral choice the man is given. To go completely native with the Na-avi and repulse the human aggressors.
Make no mistake about it, the humans are the villains of this story, the evil in the paradise garden. Perhaps not unredeemable evil, but humans definitely are the bad guys in this epic. This is how the game will obviously approach it's own elements of play so it should be interesting taking a war to ourselves for a change. lol
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Commented on 2009-08-21 11:48:43Looking very nice indeed.
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Commented on 2009-08-21 12:36:29 In reply to nostradamus
Commented on 2009-08-21 12:41:25I think he is talking about the graphics and not the art.
Commented on 2009-08-21 13:01:42 In reply to SathI think he is talking about the graphics and not the art.
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Commented on 2009-08-21 13:46:55 In reply to munkiniWhos the one with stupid assumptions now, friend?
I'm gonna see the movie for the character characterization, not even remotelly interested in that generic shooting game shown in this trailer or the movie. Now, the way they moved, had low poly models, and even didn't reacted among each other with facial animation, make'em look like a Generation old dead dolls.
Screams Movie Tie-In, in the worst aspect of It with shitty narrative effort.
Commented on 2009-08-21 16:38:46Graphics seem pretty good, but the subject matter doesn't seem right for a really good game.
Commented on 2009-08-21 17:15:08Anyway, the graphics are mixed to say the least; the environment's graphics are absolutely stunning, but the character models - especially the alien... things - are almost PS2 quality. Hopefully that's fixed before release. The most worrying aspect, however, is the framerate. Very, very bad in that regard.
We'll hopefully see a lot more of this before release, but initial signs are good - the game looks like it could be fun to play, judging from the gameplay snippets showcased in the trailer.
Commented on 2009-08-21 19:56:01 In reply to Nietzschefor now i have to agree, very underwhelming movie trailer, and the game trailer, while technically ok, suffers from the same problems, imho.
Commented on 2009-08-22 09:02:20 In reply to NietzscheBeing one of the people who actually saw the 15 minute IMAX-3D preview I can say the tiny trailer everyone else saw today doesn't even come close to what I saw in theater. Avatar is a HUGE epic being told in a kind Jungle Book meets Tarzan fashion.
Cameron is most obviously telling a story from the perspective of the aliens. And it really doesn't feel right to call them "alien", seeing as how this is THEIR world they're defending against human invasion. I also don't think it's an accident that Cameron has the Na-avi (what they call themselves) all sounding like Africans.
And while I agree with you that the visual spectacle didn't blow my mind, there seems to be a very complex character-driven story underneath it all. A man who can't walk is suddenly and literally living a new life by way of some type of mind transfer. As the preview went on there seemed to be a moral choice the man is given. To go completely native with the Na-avi and repulse the human aggressors.
Make no mistake about it, the humans are the villains of this story, the evil in the paradise garden. Perhaps not unredeemable evil, but humans definitely are the bad guys in this epic. This is how the game will obviously approach it's own elements of play so it should be interesting taking a war to ourselves for a change. lol