Or likewise, there's 13 tickets left on attack and more than half your team are in the mountains sniping. Yes. Those people are campers. Campers are fucking lame.

http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/neo%20bogard

The official stats/soldier page is still wonky. It tells me I have to wait for zero seconds to see my stats and has for the last few days. BCS took a while to update, but it finally did.. and that's relatively accurate and relatively recent. The most interesting thing to me is the win/lose spread for me on attack versus defense in Rush. Holy crap is that skewed.. and frankly I would have expected it to lean on defense, especially now that the M-COM's are harder to kill. Wow.



Yes? No? I don't know. I wish they wouldn't touch the M1911.

Well if he gave you a headshot you should go down IMO...

Nonsense. At full range the AN-94 and M-16 do identical damage, and the M-16 has less recoil and a higher rate of fire.

I really hope they don't kill its range damage entirely. It takes more than one headshot in close quarters to kill someone (with magnum ammo), and at least three or four at range. There's no reason that you shouldn't be able to use an LMG at long range. It's not like the effective range is any worse than an assault rifle. I do think that it needs to be tweaked, but I hope they don't go overboard, because the other LMG's sorta blow.

The XM8 is definitely a great weapon.. and better than the AUG imo. I can't stand the AUG or the F2000.You can only deposit 6 C4 at a time even if you refill your ammo.

One or two guns are still going to stand out in every class anyway.. but the distinction between the M60 and the other LMG's is much more defined. With that said, I would hate it if it still weren't the best gun in the class after it gets nerfed. The other LMG's aren't very good, so unless they're going to buff other weapons, they better not be too harsh. I'm more worried about the 1911 getting nerfed though. I'm really, really used to its damage and range, and it's going to feel weird to have to adjust! Plus, I am really quite fond of having a powerful side arm. It's still not quite as powerful as the deagle in COD4.. but I guess it is more accurate, but only from the hip. I can't hit shit with any of the pistols down the sights, and the deagle is a laser beam from its sights in COD4.Are you spraying with the XM8 or something? You have to tap out shots with it, especially at range, but you should almost never hold the trigger down with any of the assault rifles in this game. Even from the hip at close range you shouldn't be holding the trigger down for more than a handful of shots at a time.

The AN-94 may pack slightly more of a punch than the M-16 even at full range.. but I'm not sure. I've seen conflicting numbers on this stuff, but it's pretty clear that the XM8 and M416 are the top shelf autos and the M-16 and AN-94 are the top shelf semis. The AN-94 does more damage than the M-16 and probably has a lower time-to-kill than any other assault rifle if you've got killer aim, but the M-16 definitely has less recoil, a higher rate of fire, and is generally more accurate. It's the classic AK version M-16 dynamic that's been central to almost every modern military shooter ever, and it's no different in Bad Company 2.

Regardless, even with a damage advantage over the M-16, it's no where near as pronounced difference as the M60 versus the rest of the LMG's.

Here's some good analysis of this stuff: http://denkirson.xanga.com/722757523/bad-company-2...

I believe this is the most accurate analysis of the game to date. These charts seem to imply that at full range the M-16 and AN-94 are identical, but even if they're not, it's not a huge gap. The M60 has a giant advantage over other LGM's. Some people cry about this, but I don't think it's a big deal if there are stand-out weapons. When push comes to shove, it's only natural. It's more important that all four classes are balanced in terms of their best weapons, than having perfect in-class balance.

All weapons are useless full auto except in extremely close quarters. The M60 is the only gun that you can get away with spraying, and even then, you still have to be close and zoomed to get it to perform properly. That's all actually sorta realistic though. You wouldn't fire an assault rifle full auto at range and expect it to be perfectly accurate. This isn't Call of Duty where you're basically firing a laser rifle with the M4.

I've also become really fond of the red dot, almost to the point where it's become a bit of a crutch. I know some people can't adapt to it, but now I'm having trouble adapting back to the iron sights :/

Not in ranked pubs, but there are mods like that in most games. There are plenty of TF2 and promodlive (COD4) servers that limit the number of snipers per map. It really does get pretty ridiculous in Bad Company 2, but I guess it comes with the territory. I'm really questioning the validity of Rush as a game mode at all based on my stats. I'd be interested to see if most other users stats aren't similarly skewed. I wouldn't have expected as much without seeing it on paper, but attack almost always wins. Again: I wouldn't have thought as much just from playing the game, but the stats speak for themselves. I figured it would have leaned on defense after they made the M-COM's stronger, but apparently not.

I can't use the damn 4x scope at all. It's completely disorienting, because I use my sights at medium range too.

Oh, and check that link out, they have information on "hardcore," and it's just as nonsensical as it is in Call of Duty. You start with 50 health in hardcore. There's practically no consideration to how damage scales, and like Call of Duty's HC, it rewards reaction time above and beyond anything else. I can't even imagine what it's like on the consoles, where they already have a 1.25 increased damage modifier to compensate for the game pad. Add that multiplier to the magnum ammo's 1.25x mod, and it would turn most weapons into one-hit-kills to the chest. What a joke.

I like the vanilla damage model on the PC just fine. It makes headshots count for a lot.

Oh, and Doomsong, I didn't mean to deny your friend request. Do you think you could resend it? This stupid game only lets you have twenty friends, so I have to make more room. There are more than twenty people in my clan... it's a pain in the ass.

Yeah, I thought that too, until I saw the actual numbers. It's too bad BCS doesn't do console stats yet.