Batman: Arkham Asylum: Thread

Sath - Missed the<br>hay
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Blmbox...if I treated every combat to games like NG and DMC then they wouldnt stand a chance, ever...unless someone shockingly makes a better one, which is yet to see.

I did say it is fine with the way they did it, but "I" would like to see me being more in control in the attacks between medium and heavy but I am not (unless I am missing something here that I havent picked up i the game).
However it is nice to keep pressing the attack button and not focusing much on the movelist and be able to watch every attack and enemy around you.

And besides, saying "primarily because it's the small part of a larger picture in terms of what you do in the game." is a bad excuse, I dont agree with that.
If the devs wanted a in-depth combat system they could easily do so with all the other stuff they currently have, but they wanted very easy controls so any Batman fan that isn't in "beat em up/hack and slash" games can pick it up and play and I do understand why and I am OKAY with that.

As I said before, the game is good for any Batman fan and I definitely see that and feel that and the devs did indeed have that fan service and easy access for this game, and it is nothing wrong with that.
I am just saying this from my own experience that, the combat in this game do get worned, a bit...unless you use batarang inbetween the attacks which IS awesome!

But I do hope my mind changes the further I get into the game with enemies that is a bit more challenging.

Challenge Mode is very good though, haven't tried it much but I will definitely get into it more, maybe I will appreciate the combat more than I do now.
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Sath please for the love of God just give it up!!
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
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Sath please for the love of God just give it up!!
I didn't know negative comments wasent allowed in this thread even though I throw in some good as well.

But its okay, now I know how to "play the game" in this forum, I will leave you fans alone.
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Thank F@#! for that!
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Posté par Sath
I didn't know negative comments wasent allowed in this thread even though I throw in some good as well.
It's kind of reminiscent of the Ninja Gaiden threads and how nobody could mention the tiniest criticism without you jumping in like a fucking ninja to tell them why they are wrong. Smells like hypocrisy!
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Oooh, don't be so dramatic Sath!

Fair enough, the combat system isn't for everybody, but I still think you want it to be something it's not - the emphasis in Batman: AA's combat system is in timing and counters, which wouldn't be the case with the addition of heavy and medium attacks in my opinion.

Besides, many people find hack 'n' slash games dull, so at least this game has tried to stay away from that and boasts some strategy to it.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
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It's kind of reminiscent of the Ninja Gaiden threads and how nobody could mention the tiniest criticism without you jumping in like a fucking ninja to tell them why they are wrong. Smells like hypocrisy!
Just like you didnt nitpick on co-op not being on story for NGS2, im i right?
But whatever, lets put that aside, not the place.

Blmbox...I am still saying the combat for Batman is still fine because I understand what kind of people the devs is aiming for with this game. But "I" (dont know how many times I can say this) hoped for another combat system, but its not that much of a crucial thing that breaks the game for me.
What could break the game for me was the animations, weight of the attacks and hit detection, but these devs nailed those down pretty good.
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Ronsauce
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Just like you didnt nitpick on co-op not being on story for NGS2, im i right?
But whatever, lets put that aside, not the place.
If I recall, I would have been fine with two palette-swapped Ryus running around in co-op. I feel that way about co-op in most games. I don't really play games co-op for the story as I've usually beat the game already in SP.

Regardless, YOU are the one acting all shocked that fans of the game are defending it after you put on one of the biggest displays of fanboy game defense I had ever seen. That's where you are a hypocrite.

Also, my beef isn't with you wanting a different combat system. It's the fact that you said it was a button masher when it isn't. Button mashing and not fighting intelligently will get you locked into attacking enemies when you shouldn't or attacking enemies that you shouldn't(as they'll break your combo), and the result is getting attacked without the ability to counter.
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Posté par Sath
Blmbox...I am still saying the combat for Batman is still fine because I understand what kind of people the devs is aiming for with this game.
What kind of people are you talking about here?

Because Im a super fan of Ninja Gaiden Black and 2 and DMC too and I think combat in those games especially in the Ninja Gaiden Series are the best out there and I love the combat in Batman AA so I dont know what kinda of people are you talking about here.

Again if you want to make some good decent combos in this game you cant button mash its just not possible,this game combat is more deeper than you are giving credit for.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
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"Running around"...wtf do you do in the game, standing still? Thats why there is co-op mission modes (speed mode which is the same thing). Besides, if they added co-op then they had to redesign the entire single player, might as well call it Ninja Gaiden 3 *sigh*...whatever.

I am not shocked the fans of the game are defending their favorite game, they have the right to do that as much as they want, do it for the rest of your life if I care.

But I AM playing the same game as you are, experiencing the same game, and I am just adding my opinion on the experience I had, so far...you had NO experience with the co-op whatsoever in NGS2 and you kept dragging on how much you wanted that to be in like if that feature was not in the game would suck, even so you cant say your opinion ONCE and then leave it at that.

Any fan will defend their game and try to explain more or so to people who dont understand the franchise, that is what I was trying to do.
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Posté par IRAIPT0IR
What kind of people are you talking about here?

Because Im a super fan of Ninja Gaiden Black and 2 and DMC too and I think combat in those games especially in the Ninja Gaiden Series are the best out there and I love the combat in Batman AA so I dont know what kinda of people are you talking about here.

Again if you want to make some good decent combos in this game you cant button mash its just not possible,this game combat is more deeper than you are giving credit for.
People who are not into games like NG, DMC, God of War...etc. game with alot of movelist to remember to make it out alive in a brawler.
They made it so even though you are not into those type of combo style game can pick up and play right away and do some sweet moves...awesome counter attacks in this game BTW.

And yes, I do know you cant button mash in this game, hell I tried and died like 3 times hahaha, but I am saying I want control over my medium and heavy attacks, but I am not saying "omfg the game sucks" just because it doesnt, because it doesnt suck, its one of the best western devs has done along side God of War and Wolverine...and probably Dante's Inferno (dont see much hope in Darksiders IMO, no offence but thats just me).

I hope you guys understand now what I am trying to say here, if not, then forget what I said anything about this game, its not worth going on with this.
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Posted by Sath
2009-09-09 10:43:24

It is a button masher though, you pretty much press one button rapidly until now and then you make some counter (which is extremely automatic to do and very easy, even BEFORE they go into attack animation) and some dodges, but other than that, its the same button you press all the time.
Sath just give it up as you keep digging yourself a bigger hole every-time, your first paragraph of comments was a rant at how bad your thought Batmans combat was, and that it WAS a button masher.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
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Technically it is a button masher though...but I did understand how at the same time its not...so I made a misstake.
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technically every game that requires to push a button its a button masher then,yeah even Ninja Gaiden you mash the button even if they are different.

Batman Arkham Asylum its as far as button masher a game could get

Button mash in AA = Not very good player

Timing and directing and countering and doing special moves and takedowns = A gamer playing like its suposed to be played.

IMo of course
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
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I do agree with you.
Well my bad at saying it is button masher when the obvious thing all games with this genre is a button masher.
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It's only a button masher if you don't know how to play video games and randomly press random buttons. I agree with everyone else; you're not giving the game's combat system nearly enough credit.

Oh, and FYI: I'm not defending the game because I love it; I'm defending it because I believe it's being unfairly criticised.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
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Fair enough with button masher stuff, stand corrected :)

FYI - for your information ?
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Ronsauce
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Posté par Sath
"Running around"...wtf do you do in the game, standing still? Thats why there is co-op mission modes (speed mode which is the same thing). Besides, if they added co-op then they had to redesign the entire single player, might as well call it Ninja Gaiden 3 *sigh*...whatever.
Dude! What the fuck are you even talking about anymore? Are you seriously quoting my "running around?" That's fucking retarded. Do you take every single thing that someones types literally?!
I am not shocked the fans of the game are defending their favorite game, they have the right to do that as much as they want, do it for the rest of your life if I care.
I didn't know negative comments wasent allowed in this thread even though I throw in some good as well.

But its okay, now I know how to "play the game" in this forum, I will leave you fans alone.
You either seem shocked or you're a damn drama queen, but at least you're consistently inconsistent.
But I AM playing the same game as you are, experiencing the same game, and I am just adding my opinion on the experience I had, so far...you had NO experience with the co-op whatsoever in NGS2 and you kept dragging on how much you wanted that to be in like if that feature was not in the game would suck, even so you cant say your opinion ONCE and then leave it at that.
I'm pretty sure all I said about NG2's co-op was that they could allow for two players without changing the story. It wouldn't make a ton of sense seeing two Ryus "running around," but it wouldn't have to; the co-op campaign would just be a nice bonus. I don't get how you can dispute that. I didn't criticize the co-op in NGS2, nor did I say the game sucked.
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Ok.
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Yes, FYI does mean 'For Your Information'.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
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Posté par blmbox
Yes, FYI does mean 'For Your Information'.
I thought it was something like "fuck you idiot" :P
But good to know its not such a thing :)
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Posté par Sath
I thought it was something like "fuck you idiot" :P
But good to know its not such a thing :)
LOL!! Sath that was pure gold :)
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
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Posté par dcdelgado
LOL!! Sath that was pure gold :)
I don't keep up much with short words in forums, I don't use them myself so I had to take a guess ;)
But I am learning though, took me a while to know what "LTTP" was :P (Late to the party) haha, ah well.

By the way, I think by now you guys know that there is gonna be a new FREE Batman DLC coming on 17 (or was it 18th?) for all platforms.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
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The game is picking up now, finally :P
Yeah I did meet those with electric nightstick enemies, hard indeed, definitely needed a bigger wait until I meet various enemy times :)

Now, I didnt mention this before...but am I the only one who thought of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoTG1nR84MU when meeting Scarecrow everytime?
Awesome way to bring back that nice old school 2D Batman memories from NES version for this one.
Sure easy to get pass his lights, but I dont mind it at all, feels and looks awesome.
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Has anybody got the Glide Achievement yet? if so how?
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