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Since 7783 Days

For a AAA title this beta is one word... Shoddy.

It is not a good impression that EA or DICE want to put out there, to be indicative of what the retail version might possibly be.

This close to launch and this is what we get?

They might fix a lot of the bugs... but it has left a dim impression on me.

I remember the COD4 beta on Xbox 360 and it was very polished... no problems from what I remember.

Server issues, games dropping, clipping issues, etc.

I just expected more... and if EA wants to be on level footing with Activision and Infinity Ward, they sure didn't bring their A game to the Beta release.

If a lot of these issues aren't fixed in the retail by launch... COD stands to eat BF3's lunch.

This is all based on the Xbox 360 version.

I think EA should have skipped this Beta. It will just frighten people from pre-orders and retail.
I have it pre-ordered, but I'm not near as excited about it as I once was, and have doubts it can equal or unseat COD.

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FireWire

Since 7086 Days

Posted by anm8rjp

I think EA should have skipped this Beta. It will just frighten people from pre-orders and retail.
I have it pre-ordered, but I'm not near as excited about it as I once was, and have doubts it can equal or unseat COD.

I actually cancelled my pre-order after seeing the state of the beta...

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"First come smiles, then comes lies. Last is gunfire"

Phaethon360

Since 6931 Days

Yeah. I'm following suit. I've just been encountering way to many bugs my last few games. There's too many exploits and players are all too happy to game them all. I had purchased a new GFX card, but with this game being the ONLY game I've ever suffered poor performance with, I've decided against it. I'll read reviews/impressions of the final game. Very disappointed.

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FireWire

Since 7086 Days

Posted by Phaethon360

Yeah. I'm following suit. I've just been encountering way to many bugs my last few games. There's too many exploits and players are all too happy to game them all. I had purchased a new GFX card, but with this game being the ONLY game I've ever suffered poor performance with, I've decided against it. I'll read reviews/impressions of the final game. Very disappointed.

Problem is, when it does work, it's absolutely brilliant. I can't wait to have big battle's on a map like wake island but at this time I feel that I have to wait till they've fixed these issues so it won't be one big frustration after another for me.

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"First come smiles, then comes lies. Last is gunfire"

Jin187

Since 6830 Days

Posted by FireWire

I actually cancelled my pre-order after seeing the state of the beta...

I'd imagine many other people have done that too. I just cant believe they released this in such a state so close to its release!?

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GriftGFX

Since 7085 Days

I played for like 6 hours yesterday without any problems. After the back-end reboot everything worked pretty darn well.

I'm rank 35, going on 36. Can't wait to try the .44 magnum next.

Posted by Phaethon360

Yeah. I'm following suit. I've just been encountering way to many bugs my last few games. There's too many exploits and players are all too happy to game them all. I had purchased a new GFX card, but with this game being the ONLY game I've ever suffered poor performance with, I've decided against it. I'll read reviews/impressions of the final game. Very disappointed.

What exploits? I really want to hear this. The only "exploit" I've seen is the clipping glitch.. and since the back-end reboot I have not seen it once.. hell.. basically no body was doing it on purpose either.

Posted by FireWire

Problem is, when it does work, it's absolutely brilliant. I can't wait to have big battle's on a map like wake island but at this time I feel that I have to wait till they've fixed these issues so it won't be one big frustration after another for me.

It being brilliant is why it's worth being patient with. Maybe I just got lucky, but I swear the back end restart did wonders for most servers too. Two days in and things have already improved a bit, and that's without even updating the damn client!

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I played for like 6 hours yesterday without [i]any[/i] problems. After the back-end reboot everything worked pretty darn well.

I'm rank 35, going on 36. Can't wait to try the .44 magnum next.

[quote=Phaethon360]Yeah. I'm following suit. I've just been encountering way to many bugs my last few games. There's too many exploits and players are all too happy to game them all. I had purchased a new GFX card, but with this game being the ONLY game I've ever suffered poor performance with, I've decided against it. I'll read reviews/impressions of the final game. Very disappointed.[/quote]

What exploits? I really want to hear this. The only "exploit" I've seen is the clipping glitch.. and since the back-end reboot I have not seen it once.. hell.. basically no body was doing it on purpose either.

[quote=FireWire]

Problem is, when it does work, it's absolutely brilliant. I can't wait to have big battle's on a map like wake island but at this time I feel that I have to wait till they've fixed these issues so it won't be one big frustration after another for me.[/quote]

It being brilliant is why it's worth being patient with. Maybe I just got lucky, but I swear the back end restart did wonders for most servers too. Two days in and things have already improved a bit, and that's without even updating the damn client!

Phaethon360

Since 6931 Days

Me and Maka played a match where the entire team was going under the map. Players were 17-2 and you could see heads and guns right below the surface of the map. That or they can shoot from inside of rocks, or right through them. I've been in too many consecutive games where a few key players had ridiculously high K/D ratios and not just from them being good. On the flip side, whenever I fall through it just counts as a death or I have to suicide. If it's fixed day one, great. I'll read impressions to see how much better it is. But I have little faith in this game's launch and no desire to test it. If this was that exclusive alpha everyone was playing AND a few months ago I wouldn't be as worried, but this game releases in two weeks and they thought this was good enough to release now.

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FireWire

Since 7086 Days

Posted by Phaethon360

Me and Maka played a match where the entire team was going under the map. Players were 17-2 and you could see heads and guns right below the surface of the map. That or they can shoot from inside of rocks, or right through them. I've been in too many consecutive games where a few key players had ridiculously high K/D ratios and not just from them being good. On the flip side, whenever I fall through it just counts as a death or I have to suicide. If it's fixed day one, great. I'll read impressions to see how much better it is. But I have little faith in this game's launch and no desire to test it. If this was that exclusive alpha everyone was playing AND a few months ago I wouldn't be as worried, but this game releases in two weeks and they thought this was good enough to release now.

Yep this kind of displays what I think of the situation as well.

I don't want to pay for a game and become frustrated by these kind of situations at launch. I'll wait till this shit is fixed...

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[quote=Phaethon360]Me and Maka played a match where the entire team was going under the map. Players were 17-2 and you could see heads and guns right below the surface of the map. That or they can shoot from inside of rocks, or right through them. I've been in too many consecutive games where a few key players had ridiculously high K/D ratios and not just from them being good. On the flip side, whenever I fall through it just counts as a death or I have to suicide. If it's fixed day one, great. I'll read impressions to see how much better it is. But I have little faith in this game's launch and no desire to test it. If this was that exclusive alpha everyone was playing AND a few months ago I wouldn't be as worried, but this game releases in two weeks and they thought this was [b]good enough to release now.[/b][/quote]

Yep this kind of displays what I think of the situation as well.

I don't want to pay for a game and become frustrated by these kind of situations at launch. I'll wait till this shit is fixed...

"First come smiles, then comes lies. Last is gunfire"

Tinks

Since 7015 Days

In BC2 you could clip through portions of maps in the PBR. That's after the game had been out for a few years.

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GriftGFX

Since 7085 Days

Posted by Phaethon360

Me and Maka played a match where the entire team was going under the map. Players were 17-2 and you could see heads and guns right below the surface of the map. That or they can shoot from inside of rocks, or right through them. I've been in too many consecutive games where a few key players had ridiculously high K/D ratios and not just from them being good. On the flip side, whenever I fall through it just counts as a death or I have to suicide. If it's fixed day one, great. I'll read impressions to see how much better it is. But I have little faith in this game's launch and no desire to test it. If this was that exclusive alpha everyone was playing AND a few months ago I wouldn't be as worried, but this game releases in two weeks and they thought this was good enough to release now.

I think this is *mostly* BS. I've played the game a BUNCH since the server restart and I haven't seen people clipping through the level at all. I already saw you mistaking the glitched killcam (which shows a different location, sometimes under the map) with the map clipping glitch. They are entirely different things. I've had games where I've been 20-3 and whatever and above ground the entire time!. Everyone I've been playing with has been having a much better time since the back end reboot too. I know this aint just me. The game basically works fine now. There are bugs, but it's hardly the mess it was the other day.

The only serious bug I've seen in the last 24 hours is the dead-body-but-not-really-dead-guy bug. And that's all been fixed by some back end magic.. we haven't even had a client update.

And yes there are people who are just much better than you and aren't cheating.

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[quote=Phaethon360]Me and Maka played a match where the entire team was going under the map. Players were 17-2 and you could see heads and guns right below the surface of the map. That or they can shoot from inside of rocks, or right through them. I've been in too many consecutive games where a few key players had ridiculously high K/D ratios and not just from them being good. On the flip side, whenever I fall through it just counts as a death or I have to suicide. If it's fixed day one, great. I'll read impressions to see how much better it is. But I have little faith in this game's launch and no desire to test it. If this was that exclusive alpha everyone was playing AND a few months ago I wouldn't be as worried, but this game releases in two weeks and they thought this was [b]good enough to release now.[/b][/quote]

I think this is *mostly* BS. I've played the game a BUNCH since the server restart and I haven't seen people clipping through the level [i]at all[/i]. I already saw you mistaking the glitched killcam (which shows a different location, sometimes under the map) with the map clipping glitch. They are entirely different things. I've had games where I've been 20-3 and whatever and above ground [i]the entire time![/i]. Everyone I've been playing with has been having a much better time since the back end reboot too. I know this aint just me. The game basically works fine now. There are bugs, but it's hardly the mess it was the other day.

The only serious bug I've seen in the last 24 hours is the dead-body-but-not-really-dead-guy bug. And that's all been fixed by some back end magic.. we haven't even had a client update.

And yes there are people who are just much better than you and aren't cheating.

JMadden

Since 5106 Days

^^^
This.

If your angry about dying in a game, there is almost always a way to accuse them of glitching, cheating and hacking.

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Phaethon360

Since 6931 Days

I'm not referring to the killcam. If I see you under the ground, you are under the ground. You will notice guns and body parts glitching funnily and moving around on their own, which I suppose is the game trying to render these guys.

Prior to this game I've put 70+ hrs into BC2 (recently) so I understand when someone is just better than me and when they are under the damn ground.

EDIT: This video PROVES it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVqqTZKJULw

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Frozpot

Since 6844 Days

It's. A. Beta. Test. Not a demo. I think most people forget that. I've really not experienced much of a problem at all. Granted, I only have time to play a couple matches at a time, but it's been good and getting better. Learning to deal with these problems on a large scale is why they do it. I'm glad they did it because I'm sure the feedback will be very helpful.
Most "betas" released are far more "demo". Gears being a perfect example- the Beta came out after the original release date...

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Oooh, Profound, isn't it?

Acert93

Since 7056 Days

I am playing on the 360 ... and man alive is it buggy. Ok, it is a "Beta" but that isn't how casuals will look at it. I never exploit, so it is BAD when I am under ground a lot without even doing something that could initiate it. I am on another forum where peeps were INTENTIONALLY wall hacking against other forum posters. The servers have had big issues, squads seem borked. I LOVE how it feels but it just seems a far cry from the other BETAS I have been in. It also isn't a great map and the graphics are kind of washed out with a lot of slow streaming/fade in.

I like what I am seeing (it is more of a PC Battlefield) and the Caspian map on the PC looks awesome--huge and pretty. I am reserved to the fact the tech implimented is pulled back on the consoles and also means some of the basics also look reserved (comparing this to MW2 at 60Hz or Rage makes it look spartan).

I am hoping this is a REALLY old build w/ low quality assets and that the release version has a TON of big fixes and is smoothed out. BF2, even 1942, tell me I should wait until Feb 2012 to pick this up :P Even though it and FM4, along with the new Trials, are "the" games of the year for me--I have been waiting all year for them!

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I am playing on the 360 ... and man alive is it buggy. Ok, it is a "Beta" but that isn't how casuals will look at it. I never exploit, so it is BAD when I am under ground a lot without even doing something that could initiate it. I am on another forum where peeps were INTENTIONALLY wall hacking against other forum posters. The servers have had big issues, squads seem borked. I LOVE how it feels but it just seems a far cry from the other BETAS I have been in. It also isn't a great map and the graphics are kind of washed out with a lot of slow streaming/fade in.

I like what I am seeing (it is more of a PC Battlefield) and the Caspian map on the PC looks awesome--huge and pretty. I am reserved to the fact the tech implimented is pulled back on the consoles and also means some of the basics also look reserved (comparing this to MW2 at 60Hz or Rage makes it look spartan).

I am hoping this is a REALLY old build w/ low quality assets and that the release version has a TON of big fixes and is smoothed out. BF2, even 1942, tell me I should wait until Feb 2012 to pick this up :P Even though it and FM4, along with the new Trials, are "the" games of the year for me--I have been waiting all year for them!

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Phaethon360

Since 6931 Days

This game releases in two weeks. This is representative of the game. They haven't commented on what's fixed and what isn't. It's up to you to fill in the blanks. You can understand why there's a lapse in confidence.

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Acert93

Since 7056 Days

Posted by Acert93

I am playing on the 360 ... and man alive is it buggy. Ok, it is a "Beta" but that isn't how casuals will look at it. I never exploit, so it is BAD when I am under ground a lot without even doing something that could initiate it. I am on another forum where peeps were INTENTIONALLY wall hacking against other forum posters. The servers have had big issues, squads seem borked. I LOVE how it feels but it just seems a far cry from the other BETAS I have been in. It also isn't a great map and the graphics are kind of washed out with a lot of slow streaming/fade in.

I like what I am seeing (it is more of a PC Battlefield) and the Caspian map on the PC looks awesome--huge and pretty. I am reserved to the fact the tech implimented is pulled back on the consoles and also means some of the basics also look reserved (comparing this to MW2 at 60Hz or Rage makes it look spartan).

I am hoping this is a REALLY old build w/ low quality assets and that the release version has a TON of big fixes and is smoothed out. BF2, even 1942, tell me I should wait until Feb 2012 to pick this up :P Even though it and FM4, along with the new Trials, are "the" games of the year for me--I have been waiting all year for them!

I played for about 2 hours tonight. First game went 10-8 and second went 18-6. I don't like rush much or metro or the menus, but the gameplay is tense and intense and a lot of fun. It still feels very glitchy which can detract at times, but overall the gameplay is golden.

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[quote=Acert93]I am playing on the 360 ... and man alive is it buggy. Ok, it is a "Beta" but that isn't how casuals will look at it. I never exploit, so it is BAD when I am under ground a lot without even doing something that could initiate it. I am on another forum where peeps were INTENTIONALLY wall hacking against other forum posters. The servers have had big issues, squads seem borked. I LOVE how it feels but it just seems a far cry from the other BETAS I have been in. It also isn't a great map and the graphics are kind of washed out with a lot of slow streaming/fade in.

I like what I am seeing (it is more of a PC Battlefield) and the Caspian map on the PC looks awesome--huge and pretty. I am reserved to the fact the tech implimented is pulled back on the consoles and also means some of the basics also look reserved (comparing this to MW2 at 60Hz or Rage makes it look spartan).

I am hoping this is a REALLY old build w/ low quality assets and that the release version has a TON of big fixes and is smoothed out. BF2, even 1942, tell me I should wait until Feb 2012 to pick this up :P Even though it and FM4, along with the new Trials, are "the" games of the year for me--I have been waiting all year for them![/quote]

I played for about 2 hours tonight. First game went 10-8 and second went 18-6. I don't like rush much or metro or the menus, but the gameplay is tense and intense and a lot of fun. It still feels very glitchy which can detract at times, but overall the gameplay is golden.

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GriftGFX

Since 7085 Days

Posted by Phaethon360

This game releases in two weeks. This is representative of the game. They haven't commented on what's fixed and what isn't. It's up to you to fill in the blanks. You can understand why there's a lapse in confidence.

It's not the final build and is not representative of the final game. The only game breaking glitch (on the PC anyway, the console version could be different) appears to be a back end issue that's mostly been sorted. Overreactionton.

It could still be a messy launch. It's not going to be that bad though. The biggest seems to be largely solved and it's only been a day since they exposed to BF3 to the most players it's had period. There's no way they can test performance on this scale without actually seeing this many people play.

Posted by Phaethon360

I'm not referring to the killcam. If I see you under the ground, you are under the ground. You will notice guns and body parts glitching funnily and moving around on their own, which I suppose is the game trying to render these guys.

Prior to this game I've put 70+ hrs into BC2 (recently) so I understand when someone is just better than me and when they are under the damn ground.

EDIT: This video PROVES it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVqqTZKJULw

Duh, it happened. I'm not saying it didn't. You're bitching about after the back end reboot that has pretty much fixed it though.

Anyway.. back to the game for a minute. I don't know what i think of the .44 Magnum. It's punchy but slow. I think the high rate of fire and relatively awesome accuracy of other pistols makes them a bit easier to kill with.

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[quote=Phaethon360]This game releases in two weeks. This is representative of the game. They haven't commented on what's fixed and what isn't. It's up to you to fill in the blanks. You can understand why there's a lapse in confidence.[/quote]

It's not the final build and is not representative of the final game. The only game breaking glitch (on the PC anyway, the console version could be different) appears to be a back end issue that's mostly been sorted. Overreactionton.

It could still be a messy launch. It's not going to be that bad though. The biggest seems to be largely solved and it's only been a day since they exposed to BF3 to the most players it's had period. There's no way they can test performance on this scale without actually seeing this many people play.

[quote=Phaethon360]I'm not referring to the killcam. [b]If I see you under the ground, you are under the ground.[/b] You will notice guns and body parts glitching funnily and moving around on their own, which I suppose is the game trying to render these guys.

Prior to this game I've put 70+ hrs into BC2 (recently) so I understand when someone is just better than me and when they are under the damn ground.

[b]EDIT: This video PROVES it.[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVqqTZKJULw[/quote]

Duh, it happened. I'm not saying it didn't. You're bitching about after the back end reboot that has pretty much fixed it though.

Anyway.. back to the game for a minute. I don't know what i think of the .44 Magnum. It's punchy but slow. I think the high rate of fire and relatively awesome accuracy of other pistols makes them a bit easier to kill with.

GriftGFX

Since 7085 Days

Posted by Acert93

I played for about 2 hours tonight. First game went 10-8 and second went 18-6. I don't like rush much or metro or the menus, but the gameplay is tense and intense and a lot of fun. It still feels very glitchy which can detract at times, but overall the gameplay is golden.

Metro has grown on me. It's probably my favorite rush map after the improvements from the alpha. I'm not a big rush fan though.

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Isomac

Since 6853 Days

OK this is buggy as hell. oh and I still don't see way to disable bloom/hdr and they use it way too much. It completely ruins the game.

My dude and all the bodies kept moving to left all the time. Then my gun disappeared when I reloaded it. Next match my dude kept moving up and down all the time. Then when I tried to sneak around in prone I went trough the floor. All this in the 10 minutes I played this. BC2 was buggy game long time so I think it's better just wait some 50% off deals before getting this. I am not paying again to play DICE's beta test.

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Hail to the king, baby!
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none.

KORNdog

Since 6489 Days

Posted by Isomac

OK this is buggy as hell. oh and I still don't see way to disable bloom/hdr and they use it way too much. It completely ruins the game.

My dude and all the bodies kept moving to left all the time. Then my gun disappeared when I reloaded it. Next match my dude kept moving up and down all the time. Then when I tried to sneak around in prone I went trough the floor. All this in the 10 minutes I played this. BC2 was buggy game long time so I think it's better just wait some 50% off deals before getting this. I am not paying again to play DICE's beta test.

Definately seems smart to wait. I'd be utterly pissed off if i bought this game day one and i was STILL being dissconected from EA servers constantly...STILL being unable to invite a squad of friends and STILL falling through the god damn map or being killed by corpses, or being killed by invisible opponents, or, or, or.

I honestly dont see all this being fixed for release. I think i'll wait untill i get the greenlight that even the most basic of features are working properly before i buy it. I predict 6 months. Hopefully the game will be cheaper by then.

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[quote=Isomac]OK this is buggy as hell. oh and I still don't see way to disable bloom/hdr and they use it way too much. It completely ruins the game.

My dude and all the bodies kept moving to left all the time. Then my gun disappeared when I reloaded it. Next match my dude kept moving up and down all the time. Then when I tried to sneak around in prone I went trough the floor. All this in the 10 minutes I played this. BC2 was buggy game long time so I think it's better just wait some 50% off deals before getting this. I am not paying again to play DICE's beta test.[/quote]

Definately seems smart to wait. I'd be utterly pissed off if i bought this game day one and i was STILL being dissconected from EA servers constantly...STILL being unable to invite a squad of friends and STILL falling through the god damn map or being killed by corpses, or being killed by invisible opponents, or, or, or.

I honestly dont see all this being fixed for release. I think i'll wait untill i get the greenlight that even the most basic of features are working properly before i buy it. I predict 6 months. Hopefully the game will be cheaper by then.

GriftGFX

Since 7085 Days

I still think that's all very strange (on the PC). The stuff Iso describes sound like server lag (again).

Since the reboot everyone I've been playing with has pretty much had the thing work as intended. I've still seen some bugs (like the dead body bug), but the clipping stuff was clearly related to the rubber-banding lag, which I have not encountered once in the last ten hours of gameplay. I'm not commenting on the state of the console version, but the PC game actually works pretty well now for me. There are some pretty annoying "minor" bugs, and I actually think they're sorta a bigger deal. The stuff that people got all pissy about (the stuff that's *already fixed*) was bound to get immediate attention anyway.

I'm more worried about having zoom freeze up on you until you swap weapons--the little, important stuff, that players don't seem to be paying much attention to. It's understandable that people went directly to the thing that was making the game unplayable.. but now that the problem has been identified and mostly resolved.. I wish people would focus on the little things that will likely take forever to see fixes for.

Posted by KORNdog

I think i'll wait untill i get the greenlight that even the most basic of features are working properly before i buy it.

They already are on the PC.

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I still think that's all very strange (on the PC). The stuff Iso describes sound like server lag (again).

Since the reboot everyone I've been playing with has pretty much had the thing work as intended. I've still seen some bugs (like the dead body bug), but the clipping stuff was clearly related to the rubber-banding lag, which I have not encountered once in the last ten hours of gameplay. I'm not commenting on the state of the console version, but the PC game actually works pretty well now for me. There are some pretty annoying "minor" bugs, and I actually think they're sorta a bigger deal. The stuff that people got all pissy about (the stuff that's *already fixed*) was bound to get immediate attention anyway.

I'm more worried about having zoom freeze up on you until you swap weapons--the little, important stuff, that players don't seem to be paying much attention to. It's understandable that people went directly to the thing that was making the game unplayable.. but now that the problem has been identified and mostly resolved.. I wish people would focus on the little things that will likely take forever to see fixes for.

[quote=KORNdog]I think i'll wait untill i get the greenlight that even the most basic of features are working properly before i buy it.[/quote]

They already are on the PC.

KORNdog

Since 6489 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

They already are on the PC.

That doesnt really recify the shit ton of issues on consoles tho does it. I would like the game to actually work on the system i intend to buy it for. Atm it doesnt, not even close.

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Isomac

Since 6853 Days

I don't know when the reboot was but I played it today on some UK server. Was one of the buggiest game sessions I have had in years and I have played Fallout 3.

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Hail to the king, baby!
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none.

GriftGFX

Since 7085 Days

Posted by Isomac

I don't know when the reboot was but I played it today on some UK server. Was one of the buggiest game sessions I have had in years and I have played Fallout 3.

It was before you started playing. I'd try again. In the last 48 hours most servers seem to be working fine. I haven't even been getting disconnects, let alone rubber banding and level clipping, nor have the vast majority of other PC players it seems. The console servers still sound pretty broken though, unfortunately.

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Acert93

Since 7056 Days

360: I had connection issues for a good 30 minutes and then got bounced out of 2 of 3 games after. My friend had horrible lag and I saw a lot of teleporting this morning as well.

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