BF2MC demo thread (it's up!)

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http://www.battlefield.ea.com/BF2MC/news/view.asp?...

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We had this info in the Marketplace thread, but as alot of people probably will play the info, I'm changing the topic and then we can use this on friday.

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Manager

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It's up. Let the criticism begin!

400 MB badboy.

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roxwell

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Just in time for the free live weekend.
They really don't miss a trick do they.

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Acert93

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Posté par Manager

It's up. Let the criticism begin!

If it played like the PC version there would be little criticism to have ;)

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Myro

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That's why it was delayed. M$ probably kept the demo till the free weekend.

EA still suck...

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roxwell

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You played it yet Myro?
I'm still on 7% D/L

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Myro

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Nope im at 59%, it was going fast but then i decided to post on every damn forum and now it's slow as hell.

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dec0y

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i'm already at 59 too, and i literally JUST started

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Myro

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okay, mine has finished, im off to play!

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Myro

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It's alright, not as good as the PC version imo.

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roxwell

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Why KB/mouse, graphics..you can't look at porn whilst loading?

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dec0y

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i like it as much / more than the pc version just from what I've seen in the demo...graphics are improved, faster pace, nicely streamlined for the console (i never played it on xbox so this was all new to me).

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you can't look at porn whilst loading?

Exactly! Next gen my arse!

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If it played like the PC version there would be little criticism to have ;)

w/o kb+M support it would be impossible to recreate BF2 on consoles--you can only do so much when it comes to budgeting on controls..people often think that the mouse is the only real advantage to the kb+M combo, but i use all five of my fingers at once on my left hand, which means--more keys, and more fingers to press them with--which means, more mobility, because you can do more things at once...and that's not even considering commander mode..

This game shouldn't be compared to BF2--there is no "PC version" of this game--because Modern Combat is not BF2.

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Graphics are amazing just look at the gun and when you reload (check his hand) I'm almost positive the single player game looks much better though ;)

the games graphics are great, but I didn't enjoy myself too much as the only kill I got was the ONLY target I saw all game. I locked on to a helicopter in the air and took him out in style ;)

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[b] Never judge a game too harshly via screenshots or videos, because they are in no way capable of properly representing what the game truly looks like were you to see it running in front of you on a 360 [/b]

Acert93

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This game shouldn't be compared to BF2--there is no "PC version" of this game--because Modern Combat is not BF2.

Its not just the KB/MS. Having played a lot of BF2 (stupid broken patches grumble grumble) it is more how it moves and "feels". BF2 has big open maps and quite a bit of detail in the buildings (giant cranes, nuke cooling towers etc) and a lot of color, different times of day, etc.

The Xbox version is greatlly bland in color. Very bare buildings. Small maps. Everything seems "flat". The Xbox 360 version is a graphical upgrade of that -- I would have MUCH preferred the PC version being modified.

Kind of like Far Cry Instincts. The 360 version is an upgraded Xbox version. And while the water looks nice and some nice things here or there, the PC version --as old as it is -- has a better feel.

Partyly because the games are more balanced. All the art is "in theme". Far Cry and BF2MC kind of toss high rez textures and super normal mapped guys and increase poly count on an Xbox1 engine.

I guess what I am saying is I don't like the look/feel of these Xbox 1 engines being upgraded. I MUCH prefer the PC engines. IMO, BF2 PC looks better. The 360 version has some *specific* art assets that look better, but the quality on the whole --and how everything fits together-- looks better on the PC IMO.

Same with FC. I will take FC PC (even with a gamepad) over FC 360 any day of the week. Yeah, the 360 version has nicer water... but the PC version is higher quality across the board IMO.

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[quote=GriftGFX]This game shouldn't be compared to BF2--there is no "PC version" of this game--because Modern Combat is not BF2.[/quote]

Its not just the KB/MS. Having played a lot of BF2 (stupid broken patches grumble grumble) it is more how it moves and "feels". BF2 has big open maps and quite a bit of detail in the buildings (giant cranes, nuke cooling towers etc) and a lot of color, different times of day, etc.

The Xbox version is greatlly bland in color. Very bare buildings. Small maps. Everything seems "flat". The Xbox 360 version is a graphical upgrade of that -- I would have MUCH preferred the PC version being modified.

Kind of like Far Cry Instincts. The 360 version is an upgraded Xbox version. And while the water looks nice and some nice things here or there, the PC version --as old as it is -- has a better feel.

Partyly because the games are more balanced. All the art is "in theme". Far Cry and BF2MC kind of toss high rez textures and super normal mapped guys and increase poly count on an Xbox1 engine.

I guess what I am saying is I don't like the look/feel of these Xbox 1 engines being upgraded. I MUCH prefer the PC engines. IMO, BF2 PC looks better. The 360 version has some *specific* art assets that look better, but the quality on the whole --and how everything fits together-- looks better on the PC IMO.

Same with FC. I will take FC PC (even with a gamepad) over FC 360 any day of the week. Yeah, the 360 version has nicer water... but the PC version is higher quality across the board IMO.

I am too poor to own a 360... therefor I play with paper statistics. The results of my indepth scientific anaylisis determined the most important benchmark is Pi. As in The Ring of Light.

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If it played like the PC version there would be little criticism to have ;)

I totally agree with that.. I tried the demo, and it doesn't even come close to BF2 imho.. But tbh, I am a hardcore PC FPS gamer that will probably never get used to console FPS games if things stay the way they are.. I did gave it a try again though, and again it just didn't work for me.. But it was not just the controls, or gameplay, also the graphics didn't beat BF2.. Maybe it was just this demo map, but it just missed the atmosphere you get in BF2 on the PC..

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I guess what I am saying is I don't like the look/feel of these Xbox 1 engines being upgraded. I MUCH prefer the PC engines. IMO, BF2 PC looks better. The 360 version has some *specific* art assets that look better, but the quality on the whole --and how everything fits together-- looks better on the PC IMO.

Well XNA should help with future games.. although i'm still sceptical about how this will work with high quailty PC titles.

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Optimusv2

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Well it IS only one multiplayer level guys. We shouldn't be so harsh on a demo. Nobody remembers that bf2 gameplay video from gametrailers in the snow??? The game is obviously beautiful. I know someone had to have loved how amazing that assault rifle looked in your hands. I'm not sure if i'll get bf2, but I think alot of people's minds might change about this game when they see more than just a multiplayer level.

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[b] Never judge a game too harshly via screenshots or videos, because they are in no way capable of properly representing what the game truly looks like were you to see it running in front of you on a 360 [/b]

Optimusv2

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http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/715/715590/vids...

Check out the ign videos of the game it looks pretty good, but nowhere in the league of ghost recon.

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I totally agree with that.. I tried the demo, and it doesn't even come close to BF2 imho.. But tbh, I am a hardcore PC FPS gamer that will probably never get used to console FPS games if things stay the way they are.. I did gave it a try again though, and again it just didn't work for me.. But it was not just the controls, or gameplay, also the graphics didn't beat BF2.. Maybe it was just this demo map, but it just missed the atmosphere you get in BF2 on the PC..

I am kind of the same way.

Interestingly some of the best Xbox 1 FPS worked well as PC FPS. e.g. Halo. I think the PC version plays fine and it is basically the same as the console version minus some tweaking. Another console FPS I like is TimeSplitters. Very fast, requires good aim. Reminds me a lot of UT99 in MP in that it is really fast. It works very well as a Console FPS. GRAW is another... tactical, but I can see it translating well to the PC.

I think the clift has less to do with the speed, but more the content/game design.

I think BF2 with a gamepad would work fine (tried it... could only get the RT analog to work). Since everyone would have a "handicap" it would level out. While not as good as a MS, it was not shabby.

I guess the PC version seems more "loose". When I can put my thumb on it I will try to explain it better... but even with a game pad it just has more "depth" to the world; probably because the PC version was aimed at 2GHz, 512MB memory, and PS1.4 hardware with 128MB of memory and the Xbox1 version was aimed at Celeron 733MHz with 64MB of memory and a GF3/4 GPU. As much as you pretty up the graphics, nothing changes the fact the base art/design is for a very low end PC.

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[quote=Inflatable]
I totally agree with that.. I tried the demo, and it doesn't even come close to BF2 imho.. But tbh, I am a hardcore PC FPS gamer that will probably never get used to console FPS games if things stay the way they are.. I did gave it a try again though, and again it just didn't work for me.. But it was not just the controls, or gameplay, also the graphics didn't beat BF2.. Maybe it was just this demo map, but it just missed the atmosphere you get in BF2 on the PC..[/quote]

I am kind of the same way.

Interestingly some of the best Xbox 1 FPS worked well as PC FPS. e.g. Halo. I think the PC version plays fine and it is basically the same as the console version minus some tweaking. Another console FPS I like is TimeSplitters. Very fast, requires good aim. Reminds me a lot of UT99 in MP in that it is really fast. It works very well as a Console FPS. GRAW is another... tactical, but I can see it translating well to the PC.

I think the clift has less to do with the speed, but more the content/game design.

I think BF2 with a gamepad would work fine (tried it... could only get the RT analog to work). Since everyone would have a "handicap" it would level out. While not as good as a MS, it was not shabby.

I guess the PC version seems more "loose". When I can put my thumb on it I will try to explain it better... but even with a game pad it just has more "depth" to the world; probably because the PC version was aimed at 2GHz, 512MB memory, and PS1.4 hardware with 128MB of memory and the Xbox1 version was aimed at Celeron 733MHz with 64MB of memory and a GF3/4 GPU. As much as you pretty up the graphics, nothing changes the fact the base art/design is for a very low end PC.

I am too poor to own a 360... therefor I play with paper statistics. The results of my indepth scientific anaylisis determined the most important benchmark is Pi. As in The Ring of Light.

Acert93

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Not to be all negative, it doesn't look bad. Definately an experience not found on the consoles, so it is unique. And it has acceptible graphics :D Some nice movies here

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/715/715590/vids...

(Man the guy has horrible aim... he seems to really struggle with the gamepad... they need Snoopers, who ROCKS with the gamepad!)

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I am too poor to own a 360... therefor I play with paper statistics. The results of my indepth scientific anaylisis determined the most important benchmark is Pi. As in The Ring of Light.