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INDIGO
INDIGO
Since 7709 Days
Holy crap Jin, that 1st pic you posted is STUNNING. :O


Oh, and I'd like to kill whoever started that rumor about the demo coming out tomorrow. >:(
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  • 2007-05-03 22:14:04
LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Since 7129 Days
Posted by Milhouse
The lighting is far far better that GTHD (if you mean it).
NO. Better lighting? Formula 1

And what you said about GTHD's lighting I think perfectly fits what I think of the FM2 lighting.........
"If i look at the car the lighting looks almost so static. Totally regardles if the car turns around the corner or turns around by 360° or whatever, it always looks like the light source are always shining on the same places of the car (there are only some shadows)."
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  • 2007-05-03 22:45:06
Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6899 Days
There wont be any damage in GT5?

Damn that sucks :/
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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

  • 2007-05-03 22:46:35
LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Since 7129 Days
Posted by Optimusv2
There wont be any damage in GT5?

Damn that sucks :/
I have seen no confirmation of that, if anything I remember them saying they were going to have damage. But yeah, that would suck because the game would be too stuck in the past to be considered AAA much less competition to Forza
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  • 2007-05-03 22:49:18
rayy
rayy
Since 6981 Days
Hey carb from where you get that GT5 wont have damage. From what I remember, maybe im mistaking, they guys of Poliphony said that GT5 will have damage.
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  • 2007-05-03 22:50:43
INDIGO
INDIGO
Since 7709 Days
Honestly, Polyphony needs to do major work on physics before they add semi-frivolous features like vehicle damage... which probably means they won't. ;)
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  • 2007-05-03 22:56:29
Milhouse
Since 6411 Days
Posted by LEBATO
NO. Better lighting? Formula 1
Stop kidding! F1 uses some reflections on the hood, but the overall lighting is awful. Look at the hood, it's "always" the same brightness, there is no lightsource moving around or just making one part more brighter than the other. You just see some environment reflection with the same opacity. Sure, there are some nice sunhines through the cloud, but this has almost nothing to do with real lighting and how it applys to the objects.
Look at this video:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=16987&ty...
or this
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=16959&ty...

Still in replay camera the cars just don't have any shadow or something. Really anything looks so homogenous. on the whole car.

Forza 2 is has without any doubt the most realistic lighting up to now.
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  • 2007-05-03 23:01:07
CARB
CARB
Since 6560 Days
Posted by rayy
Hey carb from where you get that GT5 wont have damage. From what I remember, maybe im mistaking, they guys of Poliphony said that GT5 will have damage.
nope...trust me , no damage in gt5, i will find the link and will post back some one from polyphony or sony have gone on record saying that there wil be no damage in gt5
it might be tomorrow when i post or later tonight,
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  • 2007-05-03 23:01:22
CARB
CARB
Since 6560 Days
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/04/20/gran-turismo-5...

http://www.playstatic.com/news/434

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/91...

http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/16/no-damage-in-gra...

shark is on tv...im outta here
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  • 2007-05-03 23:06:27
GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7007 Days
Posted by CARB
and to others...forget GTHD and its ONE FREEKIN CAR on track at any one time....lets se what GT5 can do.....because the GT series can ony dream of doing what forza is doing with regards to physics and online and car customisation and car damage, and the graphics sure are sweet .....and there is going to be NO damage model in GT5,
forza2 is the daddy now
hope to bump(not literally) in to some of you online when forza ships :D
Why in the world do people insist on going on about the one car thing? GTHD is a rushed demo.. why don't you wait until GT5 is actually ya know.. revealed before you give them a hard time?

And did someone just call F1:CE's lighting awful? What in the world? Where are the beautiful volumetric lights in Forza 2? (unless that's sarcasm -- it's getting pretty hard to tell around here)

What's with all these ridiculous comparisons anyway?
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  • 2007-05-03 23:12:02
LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Since 7129 Days
Posted by Milhouse
Stop kidding! F1 uses some reflections on the hood, but the overall lighting is awful. Look at the hood, it's "always" the same brightness, there is no lightsource moving around or just making one part more brighter than the other. You just see some environment reflection with the same opacity. Sure, there are some nice sunhines through the cloud, but this has almost nothing to do with real lighting and how it applys to the objects.
Look at this video:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=16987&ty...
or this
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=16959&ty...

Still in replay camera the cars just don't have any shadow or something. Really anything looks so homogenous. on the whole car.

Forza 2 is has without any doubt the most realistic lighting up to now.
lol, I thought you were serious until the point where you linked me to those videos, the sarcasm was strong throughout your post though.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/767/7676...
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/748/7486...
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/748/7486...
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  • 2007-05-03 23:12:33
Milhouse
Since 6411 Days
Posted by LEBATO
The videos are gameplay, your screenshots _not_.
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  • 2007-05-03 23:19:17
LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Since 7129 Days
Posted by CARB
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/04/20/gran-turismo-5-confirmed-to-have-no-damage-to-vehicles/

http://www.playstatic.com/news/434

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/91...

http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/16/no-damage-in-gra...

shark is on tv...im outta here
lol, what a shame really.

"From our standards, what other games are doing is "simplified damage". You know how [anal] we are when making our games... we would want to simulate every single dent differently."

That's pretty sad because, well............that's not a good excuse. The most simplified damage is no damage at all. No damage allows for much more detailed car models, but leaves realism completely out. And why bother about calculating dents when you can't calculate the physics first.

Bah. I guess if they did damage they would no longer have those 700+ cars, and so I guess they prefer content instead of realistic gameplay. It makes no sense since they call it a simulation but anyways.......

EDIT: And that's not to say FM2's damage is not simplified, but at leas they try. It helps balancing things out. You crash, you are out of the race. In GT you crash and the game becomes pinball and you actually take advantage of that--where's the realism? If they plan on somehow slowing down your car after a crash, it would be even more ridiculous and even less realistic now. The reality is that they are stuck in the past, and simply keep on adding content, but not improving the gameplay that much.
Posted by Milhouse
The videos are gameplay, your screenshots _not_.
EDIT: Forget it, we are going nowhere.
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  • 2007-05-03 23:25:44
Milhouse
Since 6411 Days
Posted by LEBATO
And what you said about GTHD's lighting I think perfectly fits what I think of the FM2 lighting.........
Look at these video:

http://www.msxbox-world.com/movies360/download.php...

http://www.msxbox-world.com/movies360/download.php...

http://www.msxbox-world.com/movies360/download.php...

or look here for much more downloads:

http://www.msxbox-world.com/xbox360/movies/view/95...
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change

  • 2007-05-03 23:32:09
INDIGO
INDIGO
Since 7709 Days
Ugh, stop it. >_<
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  • 2007-05-04 00:50:13
Scarface
Scarface
Since 6993 Days
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GTHD has better more natural lighting. Thats just the fact. Forza has better physics, sound, sense of speed, and looks so much fucking fun with the steering wheel. cant wait:)

"Black people are called coloured, because we come in all colours" - michael jackson

  • 2007-05-04 00:55:48
Milhouse
Since 6411 Days
This message is in "Boulet Time" (TM), If you still *really* want to see it, click here
Posted by Scarface
Thats just the fact.
No, this is not a fact.
  • 2007-05-04 08:19:41
PlumbDrumb - Still drinking
PlumbDrumb
Since 7001 Days
Posted by INDIGO
Ugh, stop it. >_<
yes, please.
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freely hated by all

  • 2007-05-04 08:28:28
docLEXfisti
docLEXfisti
Since 7125 Days
119 (!!) new screens from the preview build ;)

Nordschleife:
http://www.xboxfront.de/screenshots-945-3433-Forza...
http://www.xboxfront.de/screenshots-945-3434-Forza...
http://www.xboxfront.de/screenshots-945-3435-Forza...
http://www.xboxfront.de/screenshots-945-3436-Forza...

New York:
http://www.xboxfront.de/screenshots-945-3439-Forza...
http://www.xboxfront.de/screenshots-945-3440-Forza...
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the only tyrant I accept is my inner voice

  • 2007-05-04 18:49:33
Driftwood - Dictateur en chef
Driftwood
Since 7670 Days
Some more: http://www.jeuxactu.com/article-22241-page-15066-p...

I couldn't not post these: ;)



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Every cloud has a silver lining...

The Dreadful Unit #7

  • 2007-05-04 19:54:15
InjaT
InjaT
Since 7000 Days
BlimBlim got his preview version of Forza 2 now :)
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  • 2007-05-04 20:16:33
Bingham67
Since 6624 Days
Posted by InjaT
BlimBlim got his preview version of Forza 2 now :)
Awesome cant wait for the videos :)

*Expects video blowout*
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  • 2007-05-04 20:20:57
InjaT
InjaT
Since 7000 Days
He is not allowed to make videos. Doh!
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  • 2007-05-04 20:23:13
Bingham67
Since 6624 Days
Posted by InjaT
He is not allowed to make videos. Doh!
huh :O

How come everyone else has lol
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  • 2007-05-04 20:24:27
bloodforge
bloodforge
Since 7000 Days
Posted by Bingham67
huh :O

How come everyone else has lol
They didn't follow the rules.
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  • 2007-05-04 20:27:21
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