lol Optimus, stop being such a drama queen :P

Enjoy the demo, get a feel for the game and prepare yourself to get ass handed by my team of Batman Civics when the game ships at the end the month!

Fact is the game looks better than that shot. I know it and you know it. What is this inherent fear of not co-signing with every negative thing Acert has to say about a game visually?

I'm sure he's having a grand old time laughing at shots that are a terrible representation of what forza 2 looks like.

Hell Blue Dragon looks a crapload better than this shot here

http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/4673/748_...

just an example of why shots can be so deceiving and acert is well aware its deceiving too, but of course he'll do any and everything as long as it serves his agenda. Anyway whatever I'm done.

Yea I suppose I admit forza 2 didn't meet my graphical expectations either (not even close as a matter of fact) but as time has gone on I've come to appreciate the other aspects (which one could say are the most important parts more)

Forza 2 didn't meet my expectations, but I still think it looks good. My biggest gripe is the jaggies if it weren't for them I'd have no issues with the graphics.

Before I got the 360 and even early on while owning it all I was thinking about was graphics graphics graphics. Now I want much more than that. I think due to Acert not yet having a 360 he can't see or refuses to see past graphics. I wonder sometimes if he'd even be remotely interested in assassin's creed, splinter cell conviction, too human, mass effect, GTA4 beyond the graphics of the games. I know the games I listed aren't graphically perfect and probably don't impress acert, BUT do any of the gameplay, game design things even remotely impress him? I think the answer is no. That isn't an insult, but I think when you don't own any of the 2 consoles thats all you really think about or look for is technical superiority sometimes. Before owning a 360 the only games that ACTUALLY interested me (beyond graphics) for what they were or could be were Halo 3, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Cry On. I would've been interested in GTA too, but I didn't know it was coming to the 360. Everything else I was only looking for incredible graphics until I started wising up.

While I'm not pleased with forza 2's visuals all I ask for now is game that is graphically acceptable for these consoles and make sure I'll be interested and have fun with the game.

Yea ima head to bed damn forza 2 demo coming late.

The demo is out in 22 mins :D

I'm about to go lie back down :/

my dumbass drank a Monster drink a few hours back for no reason whatsoever. I'm going to be up for a while :/

Downloading now, lets hope this is as good as they say.

The reviews are starting to flow in eurogamer.de just gave the game a 9/10!!! If you understand german go ahead and read here:

http://www.eurogamer.de/article.php?article_id=761...

64% !!!

I am done, now it's time to start it up!

They are saying nothing good about the graphics. There will be no changes between preview and final version regarding to graphics.

loved driving the Z06, GT, and Mustang.

Its funny...I thought ALL new demos released needs Gold account and then in couple of weeks it gets available to everyone.

Although I hate racing games, I am gonna try it out and delete it :P

If this is the new update doing this, then cool.

And what do they say about the GAME? Actually doesnt matter, gonna be driving it in about 25mins, at 52% cannot wait!!

My thoughts

Was terrible with it first off trying to play like PGR but once you get used to handling its a doddle i wouldnt suggest giving up after a few tries. Assist off taking sometime to get used to but Assist on its a doddle i thought handling was crap at first but got used to it come 1st in last 3 races.

Its just getting used to a sim again graphics are not all that great but there still good and next gen sound is awesome also especially from Mclaren f1. :)

Oh nearly forgot damage its great. :)

It's not a real in-depth review. They are saying that the framerate is rock-solid at 60FPS, even in online matches. The audio is much improved compared to FM2 and sounds really good. They've stated that the action house and Forza TV is not a development of T10 itself, but from a Microsft inhouse team that is availalbe to every first party developer.

I really like the demo and it is quite good imo - and it comes with 25 cars.

I've been watching my replay over and over again. Noticed some ocassional stuttering if some dust is involved between your car and the replay camera and the reflection on the hood is quite low res, but the rest ist just beautiful and amazing to watch. Smooth 60 fps ;)

One thing I found annoying though was the speedometer in the middle of the screen, dunno if you can move it to the right in the options.

Can't wait to get my hands on the game to see a replay from a night-drive!

well let's get real...

what do we have here... Did we wait 2 years since PGR3 to have NO improvment in grafics other than 60fps? no, we even get less... no HDR (its only bloom). can't help it but this is not what I expected.

the gamephysics are outstanding but the grafic is kind of ridicolous...

where is the so much talked about 4xAA? not even the tire marks are remaining after hard braking, the ground looks terrible and the grasshader is a damn joke!

oh my dear... another hyped game that does not deliver.

McErono, going from not even 720p and 30fps to 720p and 60fps with virtually the same graphicalquality is a big step imho (especially considering PGR3 is still the best looking racinggame on any console imho).. Not even mentoning the stuff going on in the background, the physics etc, PGR3 doesn't have..

In the end it comes down to systemlimitations, the Xbox 360 probably just can't do more.. Not strange considering the tech is by now pretty much 2 years old..