blmbox
blmbox
Since 6338 Days
Master Chief is in the game? Or Cortana?
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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6899 Days
Posted by blmbox
Master Chief is in the game? Or Cortana?
Every copy of Halo Reach comes with Natal at no extra cost, it's still $60.

What other games do Microsoft have in their arsenal with the sheer popularility of Halo that can make Natal a smashing success on the very day it's released?

The impact of packaging Natal with Reach would far outweigh the risks of whatever initial losses Microsoft would sustain for doing such a thing. Hell, Reach's sales alone are likely to more than make up for the losses.

Just a guess obviously :)

Not many other games have the kind of power that Reach will to push Natal. All of Reach's obvious successes can just as easily be passed off as Natal's success.
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 6992 Days
Why did you quote blmbox but then post something completely unrelated, or am I missing something?
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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6899 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
Why did you quote blmbox but then post something completely unrelated, or am I missing something?
I thought it was evident. He offered up an idea of what the announcement could be, and then, taking influence from his, made one of my own. It was an obviously incorrect one, because here is their real announcement for today.

Just a name change, not really that big a deal.

http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/01/08/...

http://twitter.com/Andrew_Reiner
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

blmbox
blmbox
Since 6338 Days
He thinks it'll be what he said; Halo: Reach coming with Natal at no extra cost. That's what I think anyways.
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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6899 Days
Posted by blmbox
He thinks it'll be what he said; Halo: Reach coming with Natal at no extra cost. That's what I think anyways.
You nailed it :)
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7007 Days
Posted by blmbox
He thinks it'll be what he said; Halo: Reach coming with Natal at no extra cost. That's what I think anyways.
I'll just take Reach, thx. I'm not waving my arms around like a lunatic to play Halo. Or anything else.
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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6899 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
I'll just take Reach, thx. I'm not waving my arms around like a lunatic to play Halo. Or anything else.
You don't even have to wave your arms around for Natal to be used in Reach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWkpdtFZoBE&feature...

That isn't Natal, but Natal surely comes off as being more advanced than what we saw there. No lunatic arm waving at all. Now of course that doesn't mean that every single thing showcased there can't be accomplished on the controller, because it can, but it just goes a ways to showing the type of potential that may be there for Natal.

Btw Grift, don't you own a Wii? :P
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7007 Days
That was a cool demo, but like you pointed out, not Natal. Everything that we've seen of Natal has looked pretty silly to me so far.

And no, I don't own a Wii. I do find the idea of a pointer as in Motion Plus or the PS3's orb/wand thingy a lot more appealing than the Natal demos I've seen thus far though.

So far, that is. We'll see if I change my mind when more tangible demos of actual gameplay are shown off, but I sorta doubt it. Natal was built for a different audience.
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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6899 Days
Oh no doubt, it certainly was, but it would be pretty cool if it found a real foothold among even hardcores.

One very successful way of doing that would be to package it with Reach. I don't particularly find 10-15 of one core to be too big a deal, however, if there's any chance of it holding back Reach any, then it can go by the wayside for all I care. I want Bungie to go all out and wouldn't like to see anything hold them back. Perhaps after they finish making Reach, they can find cool ways to incorporate Natal functionality into their already completed game.
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6899 Days
Just can't wait for the Reach Gameinformer issue to be released so I don't have to endure anymore of the torture the milking is already starting to produce :)
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 6992 Days
Posted by Optimusv2
I thought it was evident. He offered up an idea of what the announcement could be, and then, taking influence from his, made one of my own. It was an obviously incorrect one, because here is their real announcement for today.r
I wasn't really following the convo. I just thought he was asking a random question not related to any announcement...which made your comment seem quite unrelated. My bad.
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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6899 Days
No prob, *Reaches over and hugs Ron*
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

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deftangel
Since 6875 Days
I am willing to bet anyone who wants a beer that Natal will not be bundled with Reach.

MS don't need to sell it as an add-on, they need to sell Xboxes to new consumers who wouldn't previously have bought one.

More to the point, who's a Game Informer subscriber?
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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6899 Days
Yea, I know right? Bundling Natal with Reach would be a total master stroke, an absolute master stroke, I say! Just how many other games out there will have the kind of coat tails that Reach will possess this upcoming 2010 holiday?

We don't need to question whether Reach will be a massively successful product launch, we know it will be exactly that, but the possibility of Natal sharing in that success? That's too big of an opportunity to pass up for Microsoft if they're truly taking Natal as seriously as they suggest that they are. Like launching a whole new console, they say? Prove it! :)

The possibility of being able to truthfully claim Natal as being THE most successful entertainment launch in history, if Reach manages to beat Modern Warfare 2's first month in the USA, which I think it has a very strong chance of doing, is too big of an opportunity to pass up. Microsoft has surely made the thing cheapter by throwing the processing requirements to the 360's processor. They won't have many other opportunities aside from bundling this thing with Reach to give it such an incredible degree of opening success.

Also, if Microsoft wants other developers to take this thing serious, they have to lead by example. They can't just be waiting on some other publisher to make Natal sing. At least that's my opinion on the issue.

I'm sure as hell not a Gameinformer subscriber, but I'll probably go out and buy this if it's available somewhere.
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6867 Days
Err Ops i think you misread what Def said?
Posted by deftangel
I am willing to bet anyone who wants a beer that Natal will NOT be bundled with Reach.

MS don't need to sell it as an add-on, they need to sell Xboxes to new consumers who wouldn't previously have bought one.
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** Yes We CAN!! **

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6899 Days
LOL, I know what he said, but I'm just being my usual weird self. :)

Totally lying, I blatantly missed the 'not'
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

TheFuriousOne
TheFuriousOne
Since 7006 Days
For those interested the concept artist is Alex Chu, he may be putting up some more Halo Reach sketches on his blog
http://artbyalexchu.blogspot.com/
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dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6867 Days
lol...
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** Yes We CAN!! **

BLackHawkodst
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Since 5893 Days
Man this game will own 2010!!
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Prepare To Drop!!

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6899 Days
Posted by BLackHawkodst
Man this game will own 2010!!
It seriously will. Maybe I'm just way too overhyped for the game right now, but I think it will end up making Halo far bigger than it has ever been.

I foresee a Halo CE type vibe taking place all over again, as if this is the first Halo title, and it's just going to end up impressing on the same level that the first game did back when it was released on the first Xbox.
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

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LEBATO
Since 7129 Days
Posted by Optimusv2
It seriously will. Maybe I'm just way too overhyped for the game right now, but I think it will end up making Halo far bigger than it has ever been.

I foresee a Halo CE type vibe taking place all over again, as if this is the first Halo title, and it's just going to end up impressing on the same level that the first game did back when it was released on the first Xbox.
I sort of get that vibe too, but man, I just know that can easily change with a few minutes of gameplay or more screenshots.
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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6899 Days
Posted by LEBATO
I sort of get that vibe too, but man, I just know that can easily change with a few minutes of gameplay or more screenshots.
Amen to that. We'll all have our own little imagination about what this game can and might be like and, you know, we just hope that when we eventually see enough of the game, it only serves to further excite and reassure us about its potential, as opposed to doing the opposite.

Well, we shouldn't have too much longer a wait.

This picture here taken from Gameinformer, obviously only the one on the left has anything to do with Reach, may give us some insight into what the in-game models may be like, or at least it's surely not taken from anything else we've seen. Probably a first real in-game render of one of the characters.

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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6867 Days
Only a few days to wait now.
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INDIGO
INDIGO
Since 7709 Days
Posted by TheFuriousOne
For those interested the concept artist is Alex Chu, he may be putting up some more Halo Reach sketches on his blog
http://artbyalexchu.blogspot.com/
Good stuff! Thanks for the link.
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