Mass Effect 2 Thread

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Ruh Roh!
http://www.vg247.com/2009/07/29/mass-effect-2-shep...

BoWare’s Casey Hudson has told Computer World that players will notice Commander Shepard is not as powerful in Mass Effect 2 as he was towards the end of the first game.

Apparently, stats for the character have been reset to basic abilities so that an improved system could be implemented, but to compensate for the lack of prowess, his storyline will delve into the reasons why he is weaker than before.

“There’s something that’s happening with the story that explains what happens with your abilities,” said Hudson. “It’s something we can’t go into detail about for obvious reasons, but it actually happens the other way around. Our goal with the story, in terms of getting the game started quickly and players into really compelling story situations…that dictated and allowed us to do certain things including changing the way that your abilities work and the way you develop your character.

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Ruh Roh!
http://www.vg247.com/2009/07/29/mass-effect-2-shepard-begins-game-with-abilities-wiped/
[quote]BoWare’s Casey Hudson has told Computer World that players will notice Commander Shepard is not as powerful in Mass Effect 2 as he was towards the end of the first game.

Apparently, stats for the character have been reset to basic abilities so that an improved system could be implemented, but to compensate for the lack of prowess, his storyline will delve into the reasons why he is weaker than before.

“There’s something that’s happening with the story that explains what happens with your abilities,” said Hudson. “It’s something we can’t go into detail about for obvious reasons, but it actually happens the other way around. Our goal with the story, in terms of getting the game started quickly and players into really compelling story situations…that dictated and allowed us to do certain things including changing the way that your abilities work and the way you develop your character.[/quote]

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LEBATO

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I don't want to die if I don't feel I had enough knowledge about the decisions that make me die. It needs to be at least somewhat obvious, no matter how cool they might want to make it.

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Posté par deftangel

Ruh Roh!
http://www.vg247.com/2009/07/29/mass-effect-2-shep...

BoWare’s Casey Hudson has told Computer World that players will notice Commander Shepard is not as powerful in Mass Effect 2 as he was towards the end of the first game.

Apparently, stats for the character have been reset to basic abilities so that an improved system could be implemented, but to compensate for the lack of prowess, his storyline will delve into the reasons why he is weaker than before.

“There’s something that’s happening with the story that explains what happens with your abilities,” said Hudson. “It’s something we can’t go into detail about for obvious reasons, but it actually happens the other way around. Our goal with the story, in terms of getting the game started quickly and players into really compelling story situations…that dictated and allowed us to do certain things including changing the way that your abilities work and the way you develop your character.

Okay I cry foul on this. What's the point of transitioning your game saves into ME2 if your SPECTRE (remember that's what Shepard IS!) skills are taken away?! Hmmm Bioware?

So Shepard not only loses all of his/her biotic abilities, but he's/she's also forgotten how to SHOOT! And this is is going to somehow be explained with some story plot dynamic?! I understand the need to be inclusive for new gamers, but for fuck sake Bioware, was all of the character transitioning talk bullshit?!! :P

I don't understand why Bioware can't employ a two-tier approach to ME2. The rookies who've never picked up ME1..............let THEM start with no skills and no gear. Let us ME veterans start ME2 with a more difficult game setting, a respectable skill level with no required unlockables for previously mastered skills and at least our Spectre gear.

I suppose the next obvious question is what happens to your Paragon or Renegade status? Do those get erased as well? If so then I ask again, what was the point of transitioning your game saves? Bioware is seriously about to mess this whole game save thing up.

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[quote=deftangel]Ruh Roh!
http://www.vg247.com/2009/07/29/mass-effect-2-shepard-begins-game-with-abilities-wiped/
[quote]BoWare’s Casey Hudson has told Computer World that players will notice Commander Shepard is not as powerful in Mass Effect 2 as he was towards the end of the first game.

Apparently, stats for the character have been reset to basic abilities so that an improved system could be implemented, but to compensate for the lack of prowess, his storyline will delve into the reasons why he is weaker than before.

“There’s something that’s happening with the story that explains what happens with your abilities,” said Hudson. “It’s something we can’t go into detail about for obvious reasons, but it actually happens the other way around. Our goal with the story, in terms of getting the game started quickly and players into really compelling story situations…that dictated and allowed us to do certain things including changing the way that your abilities work and the way you develop your character.[/quote][/quote]

Okay I cry foul on this.  What's the point of transitioning your game saves into ME2 if your SPECTRE ([b][i]remember that's what Shepard IS![/i][/b]) skills are taken away?!  Hmmm Bioware?

So Shepard not only loses all of his/her biotic abilities, but he's/she's also forgotten how to SHOOT!  And this is is going to somehow be explained with some story plot dynamic?!  I understand the need to be inclusive for new gamers, but for fuck sake Bioware, was all of the character transitioning talk bullshit?!!  :P

I don't understand why Bioware can't employ a two-tier approach to ME2.  The rookies who've never picked up ME1..............let THEM start with no skills and no gear.   Let us ME veterans start ME2 with a more difficult game setting, a respectable skill level with no required unlockables for previously mastered skills and at least our Spectre gear.

I suppose the next obvious question is what happens to your Paragon or Renegade status?  Do those get erased as well?  If so then I ask again, what was the point of transitioning your game saves?  Bioware is seriously about to mess this whole game save thing up.

deftangel

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Posté par GrimThorne

I suppose the next obvious question is what happens to your Paragon or Renegade status? Do those get erased as well? If so then I ask again, what was the point of transitioning your game saves? Bioware is seriously about to mess this whole game save thing up.[/quote]

He does mention that in the interview, but it's not clear. Doesn't sound like it's zapped entirely though.

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dcdelgado

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Read the whole PCWorld interview there are 4 parts, allot of your questions will be answered there.

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** Yes We CAN!! **

Kaz Hirai - Sony

"We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do" LOLOLOLOL!!

blmbox

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Can't say I'm that bothered about starting all over again ability-wise. As long as my actual character carries over from ME1 to continue the story - which is exactly what's happening - I can have few complaints.

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dcdelgado

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What i really cant wait to find out is what the hell happened to Shepard to cause all this?

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** Yes We CAN!! **

Kaz Hirai - Sony

"We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do" LOLOLOLOL!!

blmbox

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Posté par dcdelgado

What i really cant wait to find out is what the hell happened to Shepard to cause all this?

A deadly STD maybe? I blame Liara... or Ashley.

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dcdelgado

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Posté par blmbox

A deadly STD maybe? I blame Liara... or Ashley.

LOL!!

Damn the Biotic condom its meant to be full proof!!

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** Yes We CAN!! **

Kaz Hirai - Sony

"We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do" LOLOLOLOL!!

LEBATO

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Hmn, that's the real boxart? I wouldn't call it the best to be honest.

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dcdelgado

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I agree its not the best, it may change b4 release but looking at the boxart for ME1 its not were Bioware shine! but hey you cant be great at everything right :)

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Kaz Hirai - Sony

"We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do" LOLOLOLOL!!

KORNdog

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that is some pretty god awful box art.

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BLackHawkodst

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Boxart looks great, i dont what you guys are looking for, it looks epic to me and Miranda is looking hot!!

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blmbox

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It looks better than ME1's box art, and that's good enough for me.

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KORNdog

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It looks better than ME1's box art, and that's good enough for me.

i think it looks worse....WAY worse. ME1 was subtle, this is like they're slapping you in the face "it's an action shooter, ITS A FUCKING ACTION SHOOTER, IF YOU LIKE GEARS YOU'LL LOVE THIS!!!!!111one !!!1!!!"

i dont like it at all, it's just so...bland. it could have done with something that looked designed FOR the box art, rather then the "we just threw on some of our artwork we had in a draw" look.

in both cases (ME1 and ME2) i dont think they should show the face of shepard seeing as you can customise him. but that's just me.

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blmbox

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Posté par KORNdog

i think it looks worse....WAY worse. ME1 was subtle, this is like they're slapping you in the face "it's an action shooter, ITS A FUCKING ACTION SHOOTER, IF YOU LIKE GEARS YOU'LL LOVE THIS!!!!!111one !!!1!!!"

You got that from... a picture of Shepard running with a gun in his hand? It doesn't mean anything really. I've never bought a game because of its box art, nor have I ever dismissed a game because it has crappy box art. And anyone who does is an idiot.

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KORNdog

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You got that from... a picture of Shepard running with a gun in his hand? It doesn't mean anything really. I've never bought a game because of its box art, nor have I ever dismissed a game because it has crappy box art. And anyone who does is an idiot.

i agree. but in this case it's a damn good job box art doesnt have any relation to a titles quality...

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blmbox

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Most box arts aren't exactly amazing. The only one recently that I was genuinely impressed with was The Lord of the Rings: Conquest - the game itself absolutely sucked though, so point proven I guess.

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BLackHawkodst

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You got that from... a picture of Shepard running with a gun in his hand? It doesn't mean anything really. I've never bought a game because of its box art, nor have I ever dismissed a game because it has crappy box art. And anyone who does is an idiot.

Exactly unless your going to picture frame it and put it on you fucking wall who cares, nip picking boxart whatever next!

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KORNdog

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Posté par blmbox

Most box arts aren't exactly amazing. The only one recently that I was genuinely impressed with was The Lord of the Rings: Conquest - the game itself absolutely sucked though, so point proven I guess.

i think thats pretty terrible too. lol

the best box arts for me are the ones that dont stand out like sore thumbs. the ones that look like some thought had been put into them.

burnout paradise stands out as nice box art to me, as does the sabataur box art.

bad ones are the cod series, and anything else with cheesy runing towards 'camera' yelling type illustrations.

@BHODST - i've just fisnished a degree in graphic design, i care about this sort of stuff, and i judge it in the same way i do any type of graphic design or promotional material, some of it is good, some of it blows. it doesnt have any bearing on whether i like or disslike a game. but i DO see it as something worth commenting on. especially if it falls into the "blows" catagory

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[quote=blmbox]Most box arts aren't exactly amazing. The only one recently that I was genuinely impressed with was [url=http://static.gamecrazy.com/images/games/boxart/13282.jpg]The Lord of the Rings: Conquest[/url] - the game itself absolutely sucked though, so point proven I guess.[/quote]

i think thats pretty terrible too. lol

the best box arts for me are the ones that dont stand out like sore thumbs. the ones that look like some thought had been put into them.

burnout paradise stands out as nice box art to me, as does the sabataur box art.

bad ones are the cod series, and anything else with cheesy runing towards 'camera' yelling type illustrations.

@BHODST - i've just fisnished a degree in graphic design, i care about this sort of stuff, and i judge it in the same way i do any type of graphic design or promotional material, some of it is good, some of it blows. it doesnt have any bearing on whether i like or disslike a game. but i DO see it as something worth commenting on. especially if it falls into the "blows" catagory

BLackHawkodst

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I have a degree in Computer Science and i think the boxart Rocks!!

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KORNdog

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Posté par BLackHawkodst

I have a degree in Computer Science and i think the boxart Rocks!!

now you're just being hypocritical, first you say the whole debate doesnt matter, and now you're sharing your opinion on box art? make up your mind.

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dcdelgado

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I have a degree in WTF as in WTF are you ALL arguing about boxart for!!

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** Yes We CAN!! **

Kaz Hirai - Sony

"We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do" LOLOLOLOL!!

blmbox

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Posté par dcdelgado

I have a degree in WTF as in WTF are you ALL arguing about boxart for!!

I failed that course. :(

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Ronsauce

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I second the motion that it's some pretty weak box art. Except for the always stellar Mass Effect design, the art reminds me of old NES and Master System box art.... looks super cheesy.

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