KORNdog
KORNdog
Since 6407 Days
Posted by IRAIPT0IR
I palyed it man,and while I think its fun its nowhere near this level of fun I mean not to underappreciate that game I liked it alot back in the day but to say it has better core gameplay not a chance.
LMAO, see. this is precisely why i didnt give you an entire list. my list would have been demolished by raptors frantic masturbation over vanquish...lol

nothing good would come of me saying the games i prefer. and lo and behold. i was right.
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5711 Days
Posted by KORNdog
LMAO, see. this is precisely why i didnt give you an entire list. my list would have been demolished by raptors frantic masturbation over vanquish...lol

nothing good would come of me saying the games i prefer. and lo and behold. i was right.
Please don't bite your tongue.....
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 6869 Days
LOL Raptor is a Platinum Games fan, even I know what to expect :P

But I do agree with him though interms of gameplay, Vanquish does offer something fresh on the table in the genre.
So for us fans that love stylish action games this is the best one for US in the shooting genre because of how the character moves while doing the shooting stuff, and melee.
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KORNdog
KORNdog
Since 6407 Days
Posted by Sath
LOL Raptor is a Platinum Games fan, even I know what to expect :P
and that's exactly why i didnt want to post anything. or at least, not the list i could have posted.

trying to talk about stuff in a comparative way when bayonetta or vanquish is concerned is like trying to justrify science to a devout christian. he's made up his mind. there is no discussion to be had. you should have just accepted my statement and moved on....lol
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 6869 Days
I am more respectful on opinions, even though I dont agree :P

But its all good :)
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5711 Days
Posted by KORNdog
and that's exactly why i didnt want to post anything. or at least, not the list i could have posted.

trying to talk about stuff in a comparative way when bayonetta or vanquish is concerned is like trying to justrify science to a devout christian. he's made up his mind. there is no discussion to be had. you should have just accepted my statement and moved on....lol
No,trying to talk about Bayonetta or Vanquish with me its like if you are a normal dude and you are trying to talk about Rockets Science to a Rocket Scientist.

You simply would be wrong.

:P
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 6988 Days
Posted by IRAIPT0IR
No,trying to talk about Bayonetta or Vanquish with me its like if you are a normal dude and you are trying to talk about Rockets Science to a Rocket Scientist.

You simply would be wrong.

:P
No. A normal guy could talk to a rocket scientist and say something like "rocket science is cool, but I prefer quantum mechanics for the following reasons...." and the rocket scientist would reply "fair enough." KORN hit the nail on the head when comparing you to a devout Christian. Blind devotion for no other reason than you're programmed that way seems to be the case.
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Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
Acert93
Since 6974 Days
Lets leave religion out of this... lets just keep name calling and insults out of this all together, mmmkay?

Or one of the devout may get midevil and just ban you all in the name of stereotype fulfillment.
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5711 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
No. A normal guy could talk to a rocket scientist and say something like "rocket science is cool, but I prefer quantum mechanics for the following reasons...." and the rocket scientist would reply "fair enough." KORN hit the nail on the head when comparing you to a devout Christian. Blind devotion for no other reason than you're programmed that way seems to be the case.
Out of respect for this site I will simply say this post its pretty much one of the most ignorant stuff I ever read and I will leave it at that
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 6988 Days
Posted by IRAIPT0IR
Out of respect for this site I will simply say this post its pretty much one of the most ignorant stuff I ever read and I will leave it at that
It really isn't though(maybe a touch on the over-generalizing side), but since I'm not allowed to explain any further, I will leave it at that.
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IIGrayFoxII
IIGrayFoxII
Since 6305 Days
Somehow going from Bayonetta to this...feels...off.

The button layout to me....feels odd and not logical compared to netta. (especially L1&L2)

I feel like the melee could have been done better...I mean losing ur energy -completely- is a bit overkill.

Gliding to cover should be seemless...yet here I have to press a button (at the right time) when near a cover and press another button to leap over it...and then again press the glide button. It ruins the flow of battle.

I understand what I try to do here..dont get me wrong. It's just that I think I expected way more fluidness.

The option to change the button-layout would be a step in the right direction.

Getting suits that won't suffer from the energy depletion (or atleast not that fast) would be a second step.

The lost planet vibe I get from it is not a good thing to me. I liked lost planet 1 though alot. But the shooting could've been I dunno....less loose. It's hard to explain.

Anyway I like the setting/story even though it sounds corny sometimes and way to much USA.

Also I played and own PN03 and I am one of the few people who actually beat that game -including- all trials. And back then, even knowing the game didn't have much development time, I was in love with it and I still am today.

Thats why it's funny to conclude, that I really think PN03 should've been remade or continued. It deserves a second chance.The character is to me, more interesting than a standard American guy with a face that again to me.. doesn't stick with you.

As for Vanessa, I will never forget her face/voice/suit/style. She is truly -unique-. (play the game and u will understand why)

But for mikami's sake I hope Vanquish will sell well. He deserves it and so does platinum games. I love all their games. And they are one of the few japanese devs that still posess some real talent.

-enfin-
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 6869 Days
I can just say that the controls are fine to me, it is no worse than what Lost Planet games did though. If you cana adapt to that then you can with this.
About cover, you have to press a button or else if you keep sliding and get stuck to an cover object he will automatically go to cover and ruin the momentum, happens to me quite a few times.

I do agree that the melee should have been better, but Mikami said this isnt going to be a melee or 50/50 shoot and melee. He said this is a shooting game first and foremost, melee comes second if you are close and are in danger.
But the energy depletes with one single punch hit or whatever, it is overkill...really sad :(

Also...Mikami didnt do Bayonetta, Kamiya did, different people different visions for their games. Not fair to judge Vanquish off Bayonetta considering its not the same people in charge.
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IIGrayFoxII
IIGrayFoxII
Since 6305 Days
Its just my first impression coming from the netta kind of gameplay into vanquish's kind of gameplay and......thats it.

But thanks for letting me know the obvious Sath (I'm not blonde) :P

Also I have come to the conclusion that again (as with Bayonetta) I find the 360 version feel better controller wise. I was playing on the ps3 and somehow I can't feel the game using the ps3 pad.

With the 360 I can do the slide (LB) into witchtime (LT) much easier.

Also whats the deal with the ammo? I was like..."I need ammo" every minute of the demo. Probably because again I am just used to playing Bayonetta (inf.ammo) Im hitting that trigger all the time >_< Fighting the boss with no ammo isn't working.

Which brings me to the no jump-choice they made. Why? seriously, a suit like that and no jump? Darpa failed. Imagine Jumping on to that big boss (no pund intended) and shooting it in the air.

I should stop thinking about what this game lacks, it isnt doing me any good. :(
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 6869 Days
But thats the thing, you are going from a action title to a shooting, you cant compare them, not even with cotnrols.
With Lost Planet, its more understandable.

Also with the ammo, I never ran out of ammo, even if I was I always switched weapons until I found more ammo, and ammo is there ALOT.

I wanted jump button as well, dont know why they didnt do that.

But its all good, first impressions :)
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5711 Days
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 6869 Days
Techno, trance music...gives me headaches LOL

Hopefully they add Sam Gideon trailer music, orchestra with some electronic in it.
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 6988 Days
Posted by Sath
Also with the ammo, I never ran out of ammo, even if I was I always switched weapons until I found more ammo, and ammo is there ALOT.
My roommate ran out of ammo as well.
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5711 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
My roommate ran out of ammo as well.
Lack of skill is not a game fault.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 6869 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
My roommate ran out of ammo as well.
Bad at shooters.
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 6988 Days
Actually, he's quite good at shooters. It was his first attempt, and during the boss fight, the game threw up some odd invisible walls preventing him from hitting the core when he obviously should have been.

But you guys are pretty ridiculous, so I fully expect you to ignore what I wrote.
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5711 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
Actually, he's quite good at shooters. It was his first attempt, and during the boss fight, the game threw up some odd invisible walls preventing him from hitting the core when he obviously should have been.

But you guys are pretty ridiculous, so I fully expect you to ignore what I wrote.
So he is so good at shooters that he ran out of ammo?

That is what you are telling here right?

Im not even that good at shooters and I beated the boss with both my assault rifles with 300+ bullets left so yes he sucks so bad.

Sorry man you can't always be right no matter how hard you try.
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 6988 Days
See...ignored what I said completely.
And really, he was just messing around on his first play through. He wasn't trying to impress anyone or do particularly well...so fast, efficient, ammo-conserving gameplay wasn't the goal.
Posted by IRAIPT0IR
Sorry man you can't always be right no matter how hard you try.
Sorry, what am I wrong about here? What did I say that could even moderately be considered incorrect?

Also, why didn't you guys jump all over GrayFox for running out of ammo?
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5711 Days
From what Grayfox wrote to what Sath responded to what you responed it was pretty much evident to me what you were trying to say but sorry if that was not what you were implying or saying at all.

Im just saying that I never run out of ammo here and if you run out its because or you are playing it very wrong or you are shooting like crazy at walls and stuff too.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 6869 Days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpYWRIFmRcU&fmt=22

Always from Japan, always LOL

Damn he is awesome.
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5711 Days
He is sick!!
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