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Rajman

Commented on 2008-03-13 17:20:06

Wooooooow siccccccccccc.....cant wait man! 2008 year of Street Fighter ;-p

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Contra

Commented on 2008-03-13 17:21:41

This looks simply amazing. A hell of lot better than the art style for SF4. Wonderful job Udon.

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Jigen

Commented on 2008-03-13 17:26:59

I like this new sprite style over the old one. Way better anatomy, Ryu's thumbs aren't bent impossibly, and I like the proportions put into stuff like Ken's face much better.

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plite

Commented on 2008-03-13 17:49:57

This new style looks horrible. Like a cheap cartoon. In motion this even looks worse. Hopefully there will be an option to switch this shit into the original sprites.

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Xeviant

Commented on 2008-03-13 17:57:57

two words: Hell Ya

its back to basics bitsez!

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Zeuxis

Commented on 2008-03-13 18:01:22

darn, the sprite art looks so nice, and the ingame screenshots look so borring :(

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samhain81

Commented on 2008-03-13 18:37:21

this game looks so boring in motion, and it doesn't help that they have remixed the old school songs and jazzed them up making the game even slower with crap theme revisions.

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Rajman

Commented on 2008-03-13 18:50:02

I have some HD footage of this on my Youtube page if you guys wanna see, gotta agree that the animation is crap as hell!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrRTbnVDf1Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R-cioBorNY

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synce

Commented on 2008-03-13 19:09:58

Looks awesome in stills. Not so much in motion. And to think that Capcom has the nerve to say they didn't improve the animation to keep it old school...or something. Why even update the sprites then?

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SimonM7

Commented on 2008-03-13 19:31:33

To be brutally honest I still think SF3: Third Strike kills this and SF4 both with a fuck-sized hadouken.

I've already brought my tooth brush over to the King of Fighters 12 camp.

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Contra

Commented on 2008-03-13 20:09:20 In reply to synce

Posted by plite

This new style looks horrible. Like a cheap cartoon. In motion this even looks worse. Hopefully there will be an option to switch this shit into the original sprites.

Posted by synce

Looks awesome in stills. Not so much in motion. And to think that Capcom has the nerve to say they didn't improve the animation to keep it old school...or something. Why even update the sprites then?

Let me explain it for you both. If they updated the sprites to animate like oh say SF3 sprites, every single character would animate entirely differently than they did in SF2. Thus, if you change the animation, the timing and execution of certain attacks and moves will also change, resulting in a different fighting system. This would create a massive problem and an upset amongst SF2 players and fans, resulting in the entire game not being similar to SF2 at all.

So, no synce, they didn't update the animation for a reason, but they DID updated the sprite quality because normal SF2 would look like garbage in hi def.

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[quote=plite]This new style looks horrible. Like a cheap cartoon. In motion this even looks worse. Hopefully there will be an option to switch this shit into the original sprites.[/quote]
[quote=synce]Looks awesome in stills. Not so much in motion. And to think that Capcom has the nerve to say they didn't improve the animation to keep it old school...or something. Why even update the sprites then?[/quote]

Let me explain it for you both.  If they updated the sprites to animate like oh say SF3 sprites, every single character would animate entirely differently than they did in SF2.  Thus, if you change the animation, the timing and execution of certain attacks and moves will also change, resulting in a different fighting system.  This would create a massive problem and an upset amongst SF2 players and fans, resulting in the entire game not being similar to SF2 at all.

So, no synce, they didn't update the animation for a reason, but they DID updated the sprite quality because normal SF2 would look like garbage in hi def.

macphisto80

Commented on 2008-03-13 20:28:43

Very nice indeed. Very clean looking. If I were to have worked on this myself, it would no doubt turn out just like this, so I'm well pleased. Nothing more could be done to it, really. Change it any more, and it just wouldn't be SF2 visually. This has been taken as far as it could have.

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macphisto80

Commented on 2008-03-13 20:36:11 In reply to Rajman

Posted by Rajman

I have some HD footage of this on my Youtube page if you guys wanna see, gotta agree that the animation is crap as hell!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrRTbnVDf1Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R-cioBorNY

Then the original SF2 must have had some crap animation as well. From what I see, all they've done is separate each individual sprite frame and redone them with sharper detail and then just animated them again. Same number frames as the original. Your eye is probably tricked because of the improved fidelity of the sprites, so you'd expect cleaner animation.

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TheFuriousOne

Commented on 2008-03-13 21:10:05

The game has to be watched in HD. The fireballs look crap in SD, there are some really cool subtle effects going on. Remember this game is still a work in progress, it already looks superb. The new artwork by Udon really looks great.

8 week Beta demo to be released with Commandos 3.

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Tinks

Commented on 2008-03-13 21:35:52

The character models look too stocky and short
Like dwarves fighting or something weird
Udon's characters in the comics always look like they'd be really tall and huge, these are the opposite, I don't get it

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plite

Commented on 2008-03-13 23:00:29

@Contra (lol at the nick)

You don't have explain anything to me, I didn't demand it to polish up the sprites.

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Haseo

Commented on 2008-03-13 23:29:38 In reply to macphisto80

Posted by plite

This new style looks horrible. Like a cheap cartoon. In motion this even looks worse. Hopefully there will be an option to switch this shit into the original sprites.

Posted by samhain81

this game looks so boring in motion, and it doesn't help that they have remixed the old school songs and jazzed them up making the game even slower with crap theme revisions.

Posted by macphisto80

Then the original SF2 must have had some crap animation as well. From what I see, all they've done is separate each individual sprite frame and redone them with sharper detail and then just animated them again. Same number frames as the original. Your eye is probably tricked because of the improved fidelity of the sprites, so you'd expect cleaner animation.

I have to agree with all your statments there this looks even worse than Street Fighter 4 in motion god awful. Well back to Guilty Gear that still looks better than this SF HD crap.

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Megalith

Commented on 2008-03-14 00:33:12

I like how every move is missing 15 frames.

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stormkaiser

Commented on 2008-03-14 01:03:44

There's something not quite right about the fight stance animation. I don't think it's actually finished, or maybe not all the frames are there yet. Everything else looks like sf2 as far as animation goes except the fight stance animation.

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jeenyus

Commented on 2008-03-14 01:06:46

This isn't developed by Capcom.
http://www.backb.com/products/Games/showproduct.as...

Just like SH5,it's one of those Foundation9 owned companies.
BTW isn't that a bad quality vid on YouTube (framerate-wise) ? It's amazing if you think one would fail so hard.

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HDTran

Commented on 2008-03-14 02:30:27 In reply to Contra

Posted by Contra

Let me explain it for you both. If they updated the sprites to animate like oh say SF3 sprites, every single character would animate entirely differently than they did in SF2. Thus, if you change the animation, the timing and execution of certain attacks and moves will also change, resulting in a different fighting system. This would create a massive problem and an upset amongst SF2 players and fans, resulting in the entire game not being similar to SF2 at all.

So, no synce, they didn't update the animation for a reason, but they DID updated the sprite quality because normal SF2 would look like garbage in hi def.

Just a correction, there is no reason they couldn't put intermediate frames (even in a fast move, you can put intermediate frames much like how 3d fighters animate fast moves) to make it look non-jerky. The timing and the animation speed would not change at all if you choose to display them quickly.

An example would be the hadouken animation. Hadoukens in ST only have 3 frames of animation, but the execution animation (the total amount Ryu is in his hadouken animation from startup to release) is 3-5 times that. They could have animated the remainder of the entire execution of the move, thus making the move still execute at the same speed and animate better.

A clearer example would be in IGN's 2nd video where Ken does his knee bash throw. Notice how long it takes between each hit, yet there are only two frames of animation. The time between each hit is at least 2-5 times more than two frames. If it was only two frames (like the two frames of animation), it'd sound like a machine gun whenever Ken knee bashed.

The reason they didn't put intermediate frames in those moves are because the hit-boxes would change and you could get hit during the move in different ways.

As for timing, if more animation frames were added, nothing would change because execution animation (and animation length) wouldn't change.

Now if you're advocating that SF should have 3 exe frames for their 3 frames of animation, that's a different story and I'm sure it'd be a lulz game for sure. Making fireball lockdown possible from fullscreen for sure with any fireball character.

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[quote=Contra]

Let me explain it for you both.  If they updated the sprites to animate like oh say SF3 sprites, every single character would animate entirely differently than they did in SF2.  Thus, if you change the animation, the timing and execution of certain attacks and moves will also change, resulting in a different fighting system.  This would create a massive problem and an upset amongst SF2 players and fans, resulting in the entire game not being similar to SF2 at all.

So, no synce, they didn't update the animation for a reason, but they DID updated the sprite quality because normal SF2 would look like garbage in hi def.[/quote]

Just a correction, there is no reason they couldn't put intermediate frames (even in a fast move, you can put intermediate frames much like how 3d fighters animate fast moves) to make it look non-jerky. The timing and the animation speed would not change at all if you choose to display them quickly.

An example would be the hadouken animation. Hadoukens in ST only have 3 frames of animation, but the execution animation (the total amount Ryu is in his hadouken animation from startup to release) is 3-5 times that. They could have animated the remainder of the entire execution of the move, thus making the move still execute at the same speed and animate better.

A clearer example would be in IGN's 2nd video where Ken does his knee bash throw. Notice how long it takes between each hit, yet there are only two frames of animation. The time between each hit is at least 2-5 times more than two frames. If it was only two frames (like the two frames of animation), it'd sound like a machine gun whenever Ken knee bashed.

The reason they didn't put intermediate frames in those moves are because the hit-boxes would change and you could get hit during the move in different ways.

As for timing, if more animation frames were added, nothing would change because execution animation (and animation length) wouldn't change.

Now if you're advocating that SF should have 3 exe frames for their 3 frames of animation, that's a different story and I'm sure it'd be a lulz game for sure. Making fireball lockdown possible from fullscreen for sure with any fireball character.

INDIGO

Commented on 2008-03-14 04:42:18

It would only work if they removed the hit boxes from the intermediate frames. I think they should do some tests. This game looks pretty bad in motion.

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Kasbr9

Commented on 2008-03-14 15:00:40

Can i Ask U .. The Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix .. Coming On XBLA or What ?!

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Lafiel

Commented on 2008-03-14 15:03:16

a bit disappointing, that the animations still are the same as in the old ssf2

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Isomac

Commented on 2008-03-14 15:07:35 In reply to Kasbr9

Yes it's coming to XBLA. No date announced yet I think.

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