Thank you Kenshin! You need to stop by here more often, where have you been?!

And I'm not just saying that because you are the only one who agree's with me, haha. :)

QFT

And the animations are more than fine, and the game looks stunning.

LOL! To think I was at that forum at one point, haha, reminded me of good times.

Same, I stopped posting for one reason or another, though.

I do that on a lot of forums for specific titles. I started posting on Assassin's Creed forums, then stopped. Started posting on Splinter Cell Conviction forums, then stopped.

A habit I have.

lol that thread on the AW forums is something else, as I read a few posts and click on next page, another page is added.

Someone posted this one, freaking awesome:


With that said, I'll be really disappointed if the game really isn't 720p. Not because of the look, and it wouldn't affect my purchase decision. I would be very disappointed because it would be yet another freaking lie, another developer spouting bullshit. So we'll see I guess, and I did read the post by the remedy guy, and I want to believe, but I thought those pixel counts were pretty accurate in previous games.

You know, finishing up school and what not. Just thought I'd back you up since they stuck out to me too, like a fat girl at a track meet. Game looks fine graphically, subHD or not, but the animations are garbage. Then again, maybe I've been spoiled by Sir Drake.

Yep, I don't think they've failed to be accurate as of yet.

It would be a bummer if it were truly not 720p, like originally expected, but as long as it still looks good and the game is top notch.

If the pixel counters end up wrong, however, it would be one hefty serving of crow, but I have my doubts about them being wrong. :P

It's just so amazing, though, when you think about it. This game, to just about anyone on GAF looked amazing exactly 24 hours ago, perhaps less than 13 hours ago, and now it's being hammered left and right. Hopefully it doesn't end up hurting the game too much, Remedy pretty much bet the farm on the success of this game.

You know, these two videos just really put things back into perspective for me. Don't care how they did it, game looks great.

http://www.gameblog.fr/news_13854_alan-wake-5-minu...

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/61496/alan-wake...

The implification of the resolution, if it really is as low as it appears to be, is that it may not look as amazing on my hdtv, but I somehow doubt that it won't look fantastic. Haven't pretty much every single game media journo out there, including Blim, been looking at this thing running on an HDTV? Hell, if I remember correctly, it was even played live at Microsoft's E3 press conf on a gigantic screen, and not a single person was the wiser that it could be running at as low a res at it now appears to be.

At like 1:01 and on, and especially at 1:48 in that first vid is just awesome. I've pretty much seen all i needed to see. Now, the only way the game doesn't look like that when I get it, is if the game really wasn't running on an Xbox 360 this entire time.

Callin' me out optimus!? lol, jk. I rarely post on these boards is all, and the fact that I don't really care much about this game. I was just pointing out how I thought it was weird that some major 360 exclusives aren't 720p considering how powerful the video card is (relatively of course, not as powerful as new ATi/nvidia cards).

MS was very short-sighted when it came down to the design of the eDRAM, that's why games with an advanced lighting engine are sub HD. Case in point: Halo 3.

If it's true that Alan Wake is running at sub HD it's very disappointing, that's a loss of over 40% of resolution, it's VERY noticeable.

edit: Community manager said the game runs at 720p. Mind you not a dev, but there is still some hope.

sorry i don't use gaff, visited it once not interested reminded me of gametrailers/n4g

But i see very little hate for it due to i only hang round this site and the others are biased (PS Nintendo and xbox only sites)

Does a resolution make a game ...no does it break it ? no but then again i care little for visuals, for me gameplay is where it is, and alan wake stinks of it :) and i cant wait.

I just hate my 360, my preference is exclusives only for it, i just prefer the machine to use even if the Multiformat game is worse on that system i still choose it for it.

Will i buy alan wake? damn straight..already got the LTD ED on preorder cant fucking wait :) it will be the first game played in my games room and i just cant fucking wait :D

IRAIPT0IR this ones for you ;)

Remedys answer to the lenght of Alan Wakehttp://www.facebook.com/alanwake

Exploring? Sweet!!!

Excellent news.

My biggest problem is the site that this info came from. Were they not the same people who doctored shots of Dante's Inferno make the 360 look worse than it's PS3 counterpart? Then Digital Foundry proved that both games were identical , then those shots "mysteriously disappeared from the site. That alone is enough for me to doubt them. Speaking of Digital Foundry they have done a gameplay trailer analysis for Alan Wake before, yet they mentioned nothing of it having low resolution. Just too many things that make me think people are jumping the gun about this game and prematurely condemning Remedy for lying. I'll take Remedy's side until proven otherwise.

Yea, I agree, it's definitely something that is fairly interesting to see.

In a large majority of cases this generation, the Third Parties just appear to be doing a better job on the platform than Microsoft's first party efforts.

However, with that said, I'm personally very, very impressed with Alan Wake, even if it may turn out to be a sub-hd title, and I've pretty much already come around to accepting it as such. I use to say with some bit of confidence that there was no way the 360 would be able to actually pull off Alan Wake, as it was shown, and I guess the way they managed a lot of those impressive things, was to make a trade off of resolution in exchange for more advanced lighting, particles, post processing, along with 4XMSAA. There's also some truly kick ass environmental detail, the game just looks amazing. It's most glaring issue is the animation at times, but that can slide. In some cases, for those who have ever said they don't care about the resolution and would instead like to see devs target lower resolutions in order to toss in more bells and whistles, which has definitely been said, Alan Wake would be their game.

I know I've said that on quite a few occasions, but I didn't expect Alan Wake to be that game. I especially wouldn't mind this with regards to some major jrpg. Also, it's probably interesting too because it wasn't that long ago, probably sometime late last year, that Microsoft explicitly made some kind of announcement that they wouldn't be requiring developers to target a minimum of 720p anymore, nevermind the fact that more than just a few developers had already not been adhering to that requirement with their titles.

Maybe the official announcement, though, was somehow indicative of Microsoft's internal thinking of not wanting to necessarily be tied down by a 720p requirement going forward, and I guess I can't entirely blame them, as most gamers can't tell the difference anyway, even though we all know some can.

Splinter Cell Conviction, for example, although not a first party title, surely, I think, qualifies as a major 360 exclusive, and that game is only 1024X576 (2xAA). Some say they can tell, I honestly can't, and I think the game looks awesome, even though it isn't perfect by any means. But anyone take notice of the trend?

Which two games for some time have been receiving accolades as some of the 360's best looking titles? Alan Wake, Splinter Cell Conviction. Most of the talk towards those games, besides a few instances in Conviction's case, only went more south, once people actually found out what the resolutions were from pixel counters. Then there is Reach, which looks pretty awesome visually (the SP), that is probably going to end up being sub 720p as well. I say we should expect more sub hd 360 exclusives. There'll be plenty of 720 ones, mind you, just I expect more and more devs to take advantage of sub hd resolutions.

Hell, COD4 wasn't HD, and I thought that looked great. But then we, of course, have quite a bit of 720 lookers too. Ultimately, I make it a priority to not allow such things to hurt my enjoyment of the games themselves any. :)

Yes, they were indeed the very culprits responsible for that one. They totally doctored shots of the 360 version to make it appear as if the ps3 version was well superior. Then when they were proven to be full of it, all the evidence of their shadiness mysteriously disappeared from their site. However, some reputable pixel counters have come to a conclusion on the reso, so I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Even the man at remedy in charge of development stated Alan Wake to be 720p, so that's definitely a digging in on the reso.

But pixel counters have been wrong before. MGS4 for example was said to be running at a similar resolution to the one AW is being accused of pre release, due to poor screen-caps. So like i said for now i will give them the benefit of the doubt.

Please no pictures now, this is spoilerish.

Lol!

Really? Never heard about them making such a mistake with MGS4.