Bad Company 2

Isomac

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Yeah that's true and filter option seems not to be working either.

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GriftGFX

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Posté par Frozpot

It works as long as your teammates are doing their job. It's minor for me anyway, as they have done a much better job of providing mounted guns on overwatch. I am diggin' how they handled the 50 cal. Feels just like I remember...

:/

This is why this game isn't as good as other BF games, because it doesn't require you to work together with you teammates as much. You should absolutely have to rely on your team for resupply.

The game is good though, but I still find the performance pretty disappointing. I even turned down the settings and it still has that sorta slow sluggishness that it does with everything jacked up, so I don't really even know how to explain it. It's not terrible and I'm probably pulling more than 60 frames much of the time, but it's the lack of consistency that I think is getting to me. Going back to COD4 @ an almost steady 125fps feels ridiculously fluid by comparison.

I've heard people with GTX295's complaining. That should tell you something.

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[quote=Frozpot]It works as long as your teammates are doing their job.  It's minor for me anyway, as they have done a much better job of providing mounted guns on overwatch.  I am diggin' how they handled the 50 cal.  Feels just like I remember...[/quote]

:/

This is why this game isn't as good as other BF games, because it [i]doesn't[/i] require you to work together with you teammates as much. You should absolutely have to rely on your team for resupply.

The game is good though, but I still find the performance pretty disappointing. I even turned down the settings and it still has that sorta slow sluggishness that it does with everything jacked up, so I don't really even know how to explain it. It's not [i]terrible[/i] and I'm probably pulling more than 60 frames much of the time, but it's the lack of consistency that I think is getting to me. Going back to COD4 @ an almost steady 125fps feels ridiculously fluid by comparison.

I've heard people with GTX295's complaining. That should tell you something.

GriftGFX

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Does anyone know what last nights patch did?

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Doomsong83

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Posté par GriftGFX

Does anyone know what last nights patch did?

No idea but I'm getting kicked less and less now. The first day I was playing on PC, I couldn't finish a game without the connection crapping out.

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GriftGFX

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Posté par Doomsong83

No idea but I'm getting kicked less and less now. The first day I was playing on PC, I couldn't finish a game without the connection crapping out.

Well it stopped the game from dumping you to desktop after every round, so that's nice at least.

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GriftGFX

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Wow. That's horrible. That's on a fucking 4Ghz quad. Frostbite is garbage :(

No wonder this game runs so poorly on consoles, it runs poorly on everything. I fear for BF3 and Medal of Honor.

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Jin187

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The performance on this game really is teribble! Its the worst i've seen in a very long time!

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Tomarru

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They really need to fix the performance tbh, theres nothing there that should be taxing it this much, its no like it looks phenominal or anything and crysis did the same sorta destruction. It's perhaps one of the worst performing big budget titles ive seen in a long time, it's ok if it at least looks the part, but as ive said, this doesnt.

I played the 360 version a bit and it just feels clunky, have to whack the sensitivity way up near max to make it feel at least ok, but the pc version is superior.

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Doomsong83

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I'm using a GeForce 9800 GX2 and get a frame rate in the mid 20s most of the time, not good. Granted, I need to upgrade my processor.

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GriftGFX

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Posté par Doomsong83

I'm using a GeForce 9800 GX2 and get a frame rate in the mid 20s most of the time, not good. Granted, I need to upgrade my processor.

The fact that a 4GHz C2Q with the fastest GPU on the market is still averaging 30 fps with max details is pretty discouraging. I know I'm CPU limited, I can turn everything down and barely see a hint of improvement.

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Doomsong83

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Posté par GriftGFX

The fact that a 4GHz C2Q with the fastest GPU on the market is still averaging 30 fps with max details is pretty discouraging. I know I'm CPU limited, I can turn everything down and barely see a hint of improvement.

Yeah same here, hopefully this gets fixed before launch.

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GriftGFX

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Posté par Doomsong83

Yeah same here, hopefully this gets fixed before launch.

I just ran FRAPS and it's really not that bad. Most of the time it's hovering between 30-50fps.. but I'm spoiled with games like L4D and COD4, and I realize they're fairly low tech, but how do you go from 180fps almost solid to a 30 and not stable? It's so damn jarring. I go back to COD4 and everything feels stupid smooth by comparison. I would love it if they could tweak or optimize this engine to scale a little more respectably.

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Doomsong83

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Posté par GriftGFX

I just ran FRAPS and it's really not that bad. Most of the time it's hovering between 30-50fps.. but I'm spoiled with games like L4D and COD4, and I realize they're fairly low tech, but how do you go from 180fps almost solid to a 30 and not stable? It's so damn jarring. I go back to COD4 and everything feels stupid smooth by comparison. I would love it if they could tweak or optimize this engine to scale a little more respectably.

Mine stays at about 20-30 fps but tends to dip to 10-15 when shit starts going crazy. Not unplayable but distracting as high hell. Gotta upgrade my CPU.

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Killers

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The performance really needs to be dealt with, i cant believe this game should really run this bad considering what people already been saying. Worst part is there's practically no difference between different resolutions or a few of the other settings, what's up with this? Granted i dont have the best computer but well, it's the same for alot of people so i guess they really need to work on this.

Other than that though the game is awesome even when played in a not high enough framerate. Still sucks that we cant have prone though i feel it's really needed.

Keep an eye on http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-bad... if you want to see what patches and stuff do.

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mt_sabao

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Posté par Tomarru

They really need to fix the performance tbh, theres nothing there that should be taxing it this much,

?!
this game features huge maps that can be destroyed to the ground. every every damn tree and every damn wall can be chopped to the ground, features amazing sound with crazy realtime processing etc etc etc

Performance
Naturally, doing all of the audio processing in software puts the CPU under some extra strain. Since Xbox360/PS3 has fixed hardware and both have multiple cores available to do many things in parallel, you could say this is only an issue for the PC SKU where we may end up having less cores than on console. In Bad Company, all audio processing is performed sequentially on a single hardware thread regardless of platform. For PC this means that a CPU with a higher frequency will help more than one with more cores. But of course, there are other areas of the game that execute in parallel, so having more than 2 cores will help the game in general. This is an area we're constantly looking to improve and the results of our efforts will show up in future titles.

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_co...

so i'm sorry, no. this game does have a lot taxing it.
yes, i could do with a bit more AA, less tearing and higher frame rates (360), but hei lot's of candy going on there so people should cut them some slack and stop complaining about it not running 60FPS but 50FPS!

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[quote=Tomarru]They really need to fix the performance tbh, theres nothing there that should be taxing it this much,[/quote]
?!
this game features huge maps that can be destroyed to the ground. every every damn tree and every damn wall can be chopped to the ground, features amazing sound with crazy realtime processing etc etc etc

[quote]
Performance
Naturally, doing all of the audio processing in software puts the CPU under some extra strain. Since Xbox360/PS3 has fixed hardware and both have multiple cores available to do many things in parallel, you could say this is only an issue for the PC SKU where we may end up having less cores than on console. In Bad Company, all audio processing is performed sequentially on a single hardware thread regardless of platform. For PC this means that [b]a CPU with a higher frequency will help more than one with more cores[/b]. But of course, there are other areas of the game that execute in parallel, so having more than 2 cores will help the game in general. This is an area we're constantly looking to improve and the results of our efforts will show up in future titles.[/quote]
http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/01/22/an-audiophile-s-guide-to-bf-bc2-full.aspx

so i'm sorry, no. this game does have a lot taxing it.
yes, i could do with a bit more AA, less tearing and higher frame rates (360), but hei lot's of candy going on there so people should cut them some slack and stop complaining about it not running 60FPS but 50FPS!

Slabs

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Deformable terrain as well.

I adore the auto-shotgun, perfect for close quarters when you're a medic.

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Frozpot

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Man, there is some snobbery going on in here ;P. Picky picky picky, remember in the old days where you were grateful when your system didn't crash while you were playing... THAT is shit worth griping about(not 10 less fps{ unless you're getting 20 fps, then that would suck})...

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Oooh, Profound, isn't it?

GriftGFX

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Posté par Killers

Worst part is there's practically no difference between different resolutions or a few of the other settings, what's up with this?

It's probably because you're CPU bottlenecked. Your processor can't push the game to the fullest ability of your GPU.

Posté par mt_sabao

so i'm sorry, no. this game does have a lot taxing it. yes, i could do with a bit more AA, less tearing and higher frame rates (360), but hei lot's of candy going on there so people should cut them some slack and stop complaining about it not running 60FPS but 50FPS!

I'm sorry, no. When the game only pulls an average of 33 fps with the fastest single GPU on the market on a 4Ghz Core 2 Quad, people have the right to be disappointed by its performance. Sure, maybe we've spoiled ourselves this generation with mutliplayer games that run at smooth, consistent framerates, but a lot of us gamers who play multiplayer FPS are willing to sacrifice eye candy for performance regardless. When the game runs like poo on relatively new rigs, even when you drop some of the settings down, it's just poo performance. It makes me worry about future games that run on the engine, but hopefully they can optimize it further.

I recognize the tech gap between these games, but it makes it harder to convince myself to play these games when there are alternatives that look nice and run excessively well. I think I'm still buying it though. I'm having fun despite all of the problems the game has. It is a totally ham-fisted Console port though, so Acert was right. DICE are just taking advantage of our emotions. They're no more dedicated to the platform than Infinity Ward, so they need to stop pretending or STFU.

Posté par Slabs

Deformable terrain as well.

I adore the auto-shotgun, perfect for close quarters when you're a medic.

The destruction is cool.

Posté par Frozpot

Picky picky picky, remember in the old days where you were grateful when your system didn't crash while you were playing... THAT is shit worth griping about(not 10 less fps{ unless you're getting 20 fps, then that would suck})...

Those were never my only standards.

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[quote=Killers]Worst part is there's practically no difference between different resolutions or a few of the other settings, what's up with this?[/quote]

It's probably because you're CPU bottlenecked. Your processor can't push the game to the fullest ability of your GPU.

[quote=mt_sabao]so i'm sorry, no. this game does have a lot taxing it. yes, i could do with a bit more AA, less tearing and higher frame rates (360), but hei lot's of candy going on there so people should cut them some slack and stop complaining about it not running 60FPS but 50FPS![/quote]

I'm sorry, no. When the game only pulls an average of 33 fps with the fastest single GPU on the market on a 4Ghz Core 2 Quad, people have the right to be disappointed by its performance. Sure, maybe we've spoiled ourselves this generation with mutliplayer games that run at smooth, consistent framerates, but a lot of us gamers who play multiplayer FPS are willing to sacrifice eye candy for performance regardless. When the game runs like poo on relatively new rigs, even when you drop some of the settings down, it's just poo performance. It makes me worry about future games that run on the engine, but hopefully they can optimize it further.

I recognize the tech gap between these games, but it makes it harder to convince myself to play these games when there are alternatives that look nice and run excessively well. I think I'm still buying it though. I'm having fun despite all of the problems the game has. It [i]is[/i] a totally ham-fisted Console port though, so Acert was right. DICE are just taking advantage of our emotions. They're no more dedicated to the platform than Infinity Ward, so they need to stop pretending or STFU.

[quote=Slabs]Deformable terrain as well.

I adore the auto-shotgun, perfect for close quarters when you're a medic.[/quote]

The destruction is cool.

[quote=Frozpot]Picky picky picky, remember in the old days where you were grateful when your system didn't crash while you were playing... THAT is shit worth griping about(not 10 less fps{ unless you're getting 20 fps, then that would suck})...[/quote]

Those were never my only standards.

Doomsong83

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Posté par Frozpot

Man, there is some snobbery going on in here ;P. Picky picky picky, remember in the old days where you were grateful when your system didn't crash while you were playing... THAT is shit worth griping about(not 10 less fps{ unless you're getting 20 fps, then that would suck})...

I'm not THAT worried about it because it is after all a Beta (demo).

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GriftGFX

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Posté par Doomsong83

I'm not THAT worried about it because it is after all a Beta (demo).

I'd be at least a little worried. I don't think we're going to see drastic changes take place in a month, especially in terms of performance.

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GriftGFX

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It's a little frustrating that this game doesn't save your kit setup. I guess I'll add that to the list of things to post about on their forums.

The F2000 blows too. The rate of fire is awesome but in this game damage wins over ROF almost every time thanks to the wonky accuracy and framerate. Oh, and I love lightweight. I'm never using the red dot.

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Doomsong83

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Posté par GriftGFX

It's a little frustrating that this game doesn't save your kit setup. I guess I'll add that to the list of things to post about on their forums.

The F2000 blows too. The rate of fire is awesome but in this game damage wins over ROF almost every time thanks to the wonky accuracy and framerate. Oh, and I love lightweight. I'm never using the red dot.

I didn't want to say anything about the accuracy thinking it was just my frame rate. It is a little off/ WTF is up with the turrets placed right in the middle of the windows, there is a huge line in my hud and I can't see ass.

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Slabs

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Mmmmm medals....

Posté par GriftGFX

It's a little frustrating that this game doesn't save your kit setup. I guess I'll add that to the list of things to post about on their forums.

The F2000 blows too. The rate of fire is awesome but in this game damage wins over ROF almost every time thanks to the wonky accuracy and framerate. Oh, and I love lightweight. I'm never using the red dot.

Yeah I just earned the red dot for Medic and it definitely doesn't seem any better than iron sights on the LMGS, I'll stick with the upgraded med packs.

Posté par Doomsong83

I didn't want to say anything about the accuracy thinking it was just my frame rate. It is a little off/ WTF is up with the turrets placed right in the middle of the windows, there is a huge line in my hud and I can't see ass.

Just blast 'em with your primary weapon before using the turret. I would imagine they know about it and would hope it gets fixed.

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GriftGFX

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I've had a few of those games this morning. It helps when you get a single medal that's worth 5000 XP :P

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Tinks

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My roommates don't seem to be having any frame rate probs on the 360? They love the game. I have yet to try myself.

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