Bad Company 2

Since 6544 Days

Patch is out.

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-bad...

This update is about performance and stability again. We are not doing any changes to the game's datafiles.
Reduced input "lag"

-> On machines where the CPU would out-run the GPU, sometimes the GPU would queue up several frames' worth of rendering commands.
This could lead to the game having a high framerate, but input still feeling very sluggish.
Now there's a limiter on how many frames the CPU is allowed to be "ahead" of the GPU.
Control this setting via Settings.ini. Default setting: RenderAheadLimit=2

-> Performance optimizations with biggest improvements on dual-core machines
-> Fixed black "masks"
The soot on buildings with holes in them had a bugged renderpath. We switched that over to a more well-tested renderpath.
-> Improved hit-detection
We've gone through the hit detection logic, and client+server will now give more consistent results.
-> Fix for some "rubberbanding" issues
C4 should stay attached to vehicles and not rubberband around
-> Reduced spikes/dips in framerate
-> Various fixes for alt+tab related CTD on Dx9
-> More fixes for random CTD on Dx9
-> Fix for crash when you're in a vehicle that gets destroyed
There was a race condition in the code;
System 1 thought "oh hey, you're leaving vehicle X"
System 2 thought "the vehicle got destroyed, let's remove it"

If system 2 ran before system 1, chaos would ensue.
This was actually fixed in the retail version since a month, but it was only when we got detailed crash reports from the community that we understood *why* the Beta was crashing.

Likely bugs in this build
I wouldn't be surprised if it (still) has trouble remembering your settings between rounds. It would be nice to have that fixed too, but it's better to get a patch out now, and look at the settings issues afterward.

-Mikael Kalms

Took them it's sweet time. This beta should have started WAY sooner.

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Patch is out.

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-bad-company-2-pc-beta/894136-new-client-r3-coming-now-before-10am-gmt-changelog.html

[quote][b]This update is about performance and stability again. We are not doing any changes to the game's datafiles.
Reduced input "lag"[/b]

-> On machines where the CPU would out-run the GPU, sometimes the GPU would queue up several frames' worth of rendering commands.
This could lead to the game having a high framerate, but input still feeling very sluggish. 
Now there's a limiter on how many frames the CPU is allowed to be "ahead" of the GPU.
Control this setting via Settings.ini. Default setting: RenderAheadLimit=2

-> Performance optimizations with biggest improvements on dual-core machines 
-> Fixed black "masks"
The soot on buildings with holes in them had a bugged renderpath. We switched that over to a more well-tested renderpath. 
-> Improved hit-detection
We've gone through the hit detection logic, and client+server will now give more consistent results. 
-> Fix for some "rubberbanding" issues
C4 should stay attached to vehicles and not rubberband around 
-> Reduced spikes/dips in framerate 
-> Various fixes for alt+tab related CTD on Dx9 
-> More fixes for random CTD on Dx9 
-> Fix for crash when you're in a vehicle that gets destroyed 
There was a race condition in the code;
System 1 thought "oh hey, you're leaving vehicle X"
System 2 thought "the vehicle got destroyed, let's remove it"

If system 2 ran before system 1, chaos would ensue.
This was actually fixed in the retail version since a month, but it was only when we got detailed crash reports from the community that we understood *why* the Beta was crashing.

[b]Likely bugs in this build[/b]
I wouldn't be surprised if it (still) has trouble remembering your settings between rounds. It would be nice to have that fixed too, but it's better to get a patch out now, and look at the settings issues afterward.

-Mikael Kalms [/quote]

Took them it's sweet time. This beta should have started WAY sooner.

GriftGFX

Since 7017 Days

I don't think they could have started it sooner dude, it would have been an even bigger mess. I think they should just like, delay it, to be honest.

I don't know why you and Iso both bitch about this patch, when you consider that they only really updated for optimization, I'm actually sorta impressed. My performance dramatically improved.

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UrukHaiPT

Since 6544 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

I don't think they could have started it sooner dude, it would have been an even bigger mess. I think they should just like, delay it, to be honest.

I don't know why you and Iso both bitch about this patch, when you consider that they only really updated for optimization, I'm actually sorta impressed. My performance dramatically improved.

Honestly PC needed more this beta than consoles for example. This should have happened instead of the PS3 beta last year. But yeah it would probably be even worst. They finished console versions then were like oh snap, we got a PC version too. Let's work on it!

Well patch didn't change much my game, runs basically the same as before and it ran nice. But it already gave me two freezes, beta just froze completly, didn't happen before this patch.

But happy to see it improoved your performance, that was their objective :)

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GriftGFX

Since 7017 Days

If this beta was in this state in late January, how do you think it would have been in December? They delayed the beta because it probably wasn't playable, period. It couldn't have happened earlier.

Don't forget: this is a console port. We were never going to get more effort and manpower than the console version.

It really did improve my performance greatly. I'm probably getting 15-20 fps more than I was previously, on average, and my min and max FPS both have jumped considerably.

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Isomac

Since 6784 Days

Damn patch pretty much halved my fps. It went from pretty smooth to almost unplayable. I think I'll try to install the beta again.

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Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2
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Doomsong83

Since 5427 Days

Anyone have a spare key? Had to cancel my pre-order due to issues with my credit card. Don't really feel like buying it again till it officially out.

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GriftGFX

Since 7017 Days

I had one this morning and I gave it away :( I will keep an eye out for ya..

People cry so much about C4. I admit, I'm abusing it a little bit, but it's not like I'm using the glitch. So the first set of objectives are basically indefensible, that's not my fault!

I just got three ace pins in a row and I still got called a noob.

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mt_sabao

Since 6448 Days

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_co...

interesting read

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Slabs

Since 7047 Days

So the High settings for Textures doesn't actually work in the beta? That is quite interesting.

Gonna give HBAO a try again as well.

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Doomsong83

Since 5427 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

I had one this morning and I gave it away :( I will keep an eye out for ya..

People cry so much about C4. I admit, I'm abusing it a little bit, but it's not like I'm using the glitch. So the first set of objectives are basically indefensible, that's not my fault!

I just got three ace pins in a row and I still got called a noob.

Just got one, thanks though.

Weird, it's not letting me patch. Says "Could not find latest patch version. There might be an internet connection problem or server is down."

Edit: Stupid me, had to run it as an Admin. Duh.

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Slabs

Since 7047 Days

Thumbs up for HBAO, minimal impact if any on frame rate.

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mt_sabao

Since 6448 Days

Posted by Slabs

Thumbs up for HBAO, minimal impact if any on frame rate.

and sexy as hell! i mean, i didn't try the pc version, but the technique is awesome.

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GriftGFX

Since 7017 Days

I can't wait to play the full game, because frankly, this is getting a little tiresome. Between the S20K and the extremely weak M-COMS, the game is sorta getting dull.

I can't wait til we have access to conquest maps. Hopefully they're configured in a way that has fewer choke points, and are far less linear. It's still pretty damn addictive though. And really, I blame the popularity of C4 and the S20K but I'm just feeding that fire. It's practically impossible not to though, it's too powerful not to use! I may actually drop the assault rifle in favor of C4 for good. I can't kill tanks with the noob tube!

I don't really feel like my reaction time is rewarded 1/10th as well as it is in Call of Duty (4, not Modern Warfail 2), but I actually appreciate how most weapons do less damage. It makes headshots count for something major, which is nice.

So.. 30 hours into the beta.. I'm not in love but I'm definitely in like.

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mt_sabao

Since 6448 Days

i was in love, too bad mass effect 2 stole my heart :) but in anycase i should be done with it when this finally comes out in a couple of weeks.

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GriftGFX

Since 7017 Days

I hate how much people complain when I blow an M-COM with C4, especially on the first set of objectives. They're so easy to destroy with a quad and six packs of C4 that it's sorta silly, but that's not my fault. I'm not going to sit at the top of the fucking hill with a scope; I'm going to blow up your objectives by any means possible. Well, almost any means, that doesn't include the silly infinite C4 glitch. If I do that, well, call me out on it all you want! I think it's funny that someone will call you a noob just for using the most powerful set of equipment and weapons in the game. I'm not going to handicap myself because someone doesn't think it's fair... they're the noobs. Rush might actually be properly playable when they up the M-COM health, and hell, maybe people will complain less too!

Less QQ more pew pew. That said, I will handicap myself to comp rules eventually :P

I still wish I could prone.

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UrukHaiPT

Since 6544 Days

You are a C4 whore :P

Overused video, but sitll pretty fun and spot on!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbHEAM3pN2o

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Doomsong83

Since 5427 Days

Wow what a difference that patch made. This game is starting to draw me in now that it runs great.

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icemanufc

Since 5683 Days

The game looks hot!

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14293277/bat...

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Acert93

Since 6988 Days

Posted by Doomsong83

Wow what a difference that patch made. This game is starting to draw me in now that it runs great.

Did the 360 version get patched, or only the PC?

Anyone hear if they plan a language filter? Hearing the game toss out F-bombs during MP sucks.

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Tinks

Since 6946 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

I hate how much people complain when I blow an M-COM with C4, especially on the first set of objectives. They're so easy to destroy with a quad and six packs of C4 that it's sorta silly, but that's not my fault. I'm not going to sit at the top of the fucking hill with a scope; I'm going to blow up your objectives by any means possible. Well, almost any means, that doesn't include the silly infinite C4 glitch. If I do that, well, call me out on it all you want! I think it's funny that someone will call you a noob just for using the most powerful set of equipment and weapons in the game. I'm not going to handicap myself because someone doesn't think it's fair... they're the noobs. Rush might actually be properly playable when they up the M-COM health, and hell, maybe people will complain less too!

Less QQ more pew pew. That said, I will handicap myself to comp rules eventually :P

I still wish I could prone.

This whole thing made me lol for some reason

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[quote=GriftGFX]I hate how much people complain when I blow an M-COM with C4, especially on the first set of objectives. They're [i]so easy[/i] to destroy with a quad and six packs of C4 that it's sorta silly, but [i]that's not my fault[/i]. I'm not going to sit at the top of the fucking hill with a scope; I'm going to blow up your objectives by any means possible. Well, almost any means, that doesn't include the silly infinite C4 glitch. If I do that, well, call me out on it all you want! I think it's funny that someone will call you a noob just for using the most powerful set of equipment and weapons in the game. I'm not going to handicap myself because someone doesn't think it's fair... [i]they're[/i] the noobs. Rush might actually be properly playable when they up the M-COM health, and hell, maybe people will complain less too!

Less QQ more pew pew. That said, I will handicap myself to comp rules eventually :P

I still wish I could prone.[/quote]
This whole thing made me lol for some reason

GriftGFX

Since 7017 Days

Posted by Acert93

Did the 360 version get patched, or only the PC?

Anyone hear if they plan a language filter? Hearing the game toss out F-bombs during MP sucks.

I love the language, but I can totally understand why people want a filter. What amuses me is that the PC version censors text chat, while simultaneously cursing like a sailor itself. Sorta cracks me up.

And I don't think they patched the console version of the demo, I doubt they will. This patch was just to test dual core optimization it seems, and it's a winner in that it really improved performance on Core 2 Duo's.

I'm sure they'll do the same balance tweaks and support both in retail. They didn't even apply any known fixes to glitches or bugs or anything in the patch, it just made the game run better.

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Doomsong83

Since 5427 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

I love the language, but I can totally understand why people want a filter. What amuses me is that the PC version censors text chat, while simultaneously cursing like a sailor itself. Sorta cracks me up.

And I don't think they patched the console version of the demo, I doubt they will. This patch was just to test dual core optimization it seems, and it's a winner in that it really improved performance on Core 2 Duo's.

I'm sure they'll do the same balance tweaks and support both in retail. They didn't even apply any known fixes to glitches or bugs or anything in the patch, it just made the game run better.

I wish I understood Russian so I can understand the babble said when I press Q to spot and other things.

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GriftGFX

Since 7017 Days

Posted by Doomsong83

I wish I understood Russian so I can understand the babble said when I press Q to spot and other things.

You can set the voice over to English only.

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scoobs0688

Since 5651 Days

Game is amazing (playing on PC). Can't wait for launch day.

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Currently playing: Uncharted 2, CoDMW2 (PS3), Torchlight (PC)

mt_sabao

Since 6448 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

I hate how much people complain when I blow an M-COM with C4, especially on the first set of objectives. They're so easy to destroy with a quad and six packs of C4 that it's sorta silly, but that's not my fault. I'm not going to sit at the top of the fucking hill with a scope; I'm going to blow up your objectives by any means possible. Well, almost any means, that doesn't include the silly infinite C4 glitch. If I do that, well, call me out on it all you want! I think it's funny that someone will call you a noob just for using the most powerful set of equipment and weapons in the game. I'm not going to handicap myself because someone doesn't think it's fair... they're the noobs. Rush might actually be properly playable when they up the M-COM health, and hell, maybe people will complain less too!

Less QQ more pew pew. That said, I will handicap myself to comp rules eventually :P

I still wish I could prone.

ah, you'd be one of those using the 1884 akimbo in MW2, before the patch, if you had played the game... :P

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[quote=GriftGFX]I hate how much people complain when I blow an M-COM with C4, especially on the first set of objectives. They're [i]so easy[/i] to destroy with a quad and six packs of C4 that it's sorta silly, but [i]that's not my fault[/i]. I'm not going to sit at the top of the fucking hill with a scope; I'm going to blow up your objectives by any means possible. Well, almost any means, that doesn't include the silly infinite C4 glitch. If I do that, well, call me out on it all you want! I think it's funny that someone will call you a noob just for using the most powerful set of equipment and weapons in the game. I'm not going to handicap myself because someone doesn't think it's fair... [i]they're[/i] the noobs. Rush might actually be properly playable when they up the M-COM health, and hell, maybe people will complain less too!

Less QQ more pew pew. That said, I will handicap myself to comp rules eventually :P

I still wish I could prone.[/quote]

ah, you'd be one of those using the 1884 akimbo in MW2, before the patch, if you had played the game... :P

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