Battlefield 3 -- Now with *less* suppression!

abcgamer
abcgamer
Since 5791 Days
It looks amazing but I had still go with Crysis.
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dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6874 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
I agree. BF3 clearly destroys everything else slated for this year.
+1

Very interested to see what the console vers klooks like.
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Doom_Bringer - I have terrible taste
Doom_Bringer
Since 6337 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
I agree. BF3 clearly destroys everything else slated for this year.
Indeed
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5722 Days
Ummhhh I don't know, Crysis 2 looks amazing too.
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szaromir
szaromir
Since 6770 Days
Posted by dcdelgado
+1

Very interested to see what the console vers klooks like.
BF3 destroys Crysis 2 on PC and it'll also destroy Crysis 2 on consoles. It's Crytek's first console game, whereas DICE shipped almost 10 games already, a couple on current gen, so much more experienced with multiplatform development, how to suit the engine for consoles.
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"That just happened 'cause that was awesome" - Randy Pitchford, Gearbox

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
+3
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5722 Days
Posted by szaromir
BF3 destroys Crysis 2 on PC and it'll also destroy Crysis 2 on consoles. It's Crytek's first console game, whereas DICE shipped almost 10 games already, a couple on current gen, so much more experienced with multiplatform development, how to suit the engine for consoles.
Putting it this way then it makes a lot of sense.

I agree then.
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Doom_Bringer - I have terrible taste
Doom_Bringer
Since 6337 Days
Posted by IRAIPT0IR
Ummhhh I don't know, Crysis 2 looks amazing too.
its very limited though....its like the ugly girl trying to look good with tons of high end $500 makeup. 12 player max, minimal destruction, particle effect life is .5 seconds, no complex geometry...

Battlefield 3 EARTHQUAKES, 64 players max, destruction, high end sound design, AWESOME ANIMATION, superior lighting effects, particle effects last for bit longer, vehicular combat at ground and air....I think we have a winner ~_~ If you tried to pull all that off with Cry Engine 3 the game would end up running at 5 frame per second
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 6999 Days
Goddamn, people really care which one is the "winner?"

The BF3, Crysis 2, and Unreal Engine threads are sad places to be. People seem incapable of being excited for what's to come without shitting on other games/engines in the process.
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Zapp Brannigan: If we can hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate.

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
Yes, people care when a game is a breakthrough. Crazy.

I felt inspired by this to buy BC2 Vietnam tonight, and what a blast! The conquest maps are actually really great (at least that's my first impression). Very satisfied so far.
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 6999 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
Yes, people care when a game is a breakthrough. Crazy.
Yeah, obviously I don't like the idea that people are jazzed for a game instead of the negative manner in which they feel they need to force comparisons to somehow justify being excited for a game...
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Zapp Brannigan: If we can hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate.

Tinks
Tinks
Since 6943 Days
Yeah Vietnam is awesome. I just wish more people played it on console.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
Yeah, obviously I don't like the idea that people are jazzed for a game instead of the negative manner in which they feel they need to force comparisons to somehow justify being excited for a game...
So if someone thinks that something is the best looking thing ever, it's automatically a bad thing, because by being the best looking thing ever.. it needs to be better than other things. It's just so very sad.

Lighten up. Aint that serious.
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szaromir
szaromir
Since 6770 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
Yeah, obviously I don't like the idea that people are jazzed for a game instead of the negative manner in which they feel they need to force comparisons to somehow justify being excited for a game...
Nothing negative, Crysis 2 has really good tech (real time global illumination or something), but I think Crytek made several mistakes with their new engine. They took something cutting edge at the time, and tried to squeeze it on already dated consoles, which resulted with console versions with some nasty problems (IQ, pop-in etc.) and only barely improved the PC side in the meantime. I mean, shipping with DX9 support only shows you that not everything went smooth.

Meanwhile DICE with their experience with Forstbite 1 for consoles and DX9/10 PC GPUs, made a new version of their engine, written from scratch for consoles and DX11 only. Much smarter approach and will give better results on both platforms - no DX9 legacy in PC version means optimization for all the standard DX11 features, which is really sweet (as opposed to throwing some DX11 features on top of a DX9 game, which winds up being just a performance hog).

From what I've seen so far, it looks like C2 SP>BF3 SP though, so it's not all lost for Crytek.
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"That just happened 'cause that was awesome" - Randy Pitchford, Gearbox

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GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
Posted by szaromir
From what I've seen so far, it looks like C2 SP>BF3 SP though, so it's not all lost for Crytek.
I would have suspected that from the start anyway. The campaign is the primary reason I'm still excited about Crysis 2. The first two campaigns were great.
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5722 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
I would have suspected that from the start anyway. The campaign is the primary reason I'm still excited about Crysis 2. The first two campaigns were great.
Now we talking, campaign is the reason I will buy it too,...........but on the 360 :(

It looks pretty in it too so Im not complaining.
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 6999 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
So if someone thinks that something is the best looking thing ever, it's automatically a bad thing, because by being the best looking thing ever.. it needs to be better than other things. It's just so very sad.
Yeah, we'll pretend that's what I'm talking about.
Lighten up. Aint that serious.
Just like how jokes comparing BF3 to CoD aren't serious I'm sure.
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Zapp Brannigan: If we can hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate.

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
Just like how jokes comparing BF3 to CoD aren't serious I'm sure.
Ooh nice burn.. a few more of those and you'll earn a killstreak.
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Nietzsche
Nietzsche
Since 6367 Days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4J1AKgs-Gs&NR=1

Poor quality but in case anyone missed this. Gonna be my GOTY for sure, no freaking doubts at all. I'll spend all kinds of money on upgrading my PC to get this game looking and running as good as possible
I just love everything they are showing so much lol...

I don't think I've been such a sucker for hype for a game in a long time. I really cannot wait for this game.
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 6999 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
Ooh nice burn.. a few more of those and you'll earn a killstreak.
Wasn't really meant to be a burn... but to illustrate that I'm not the only one that needs to lighten up.

Regardless, I'm getting increasingly excited for this game. The last BF game I played was BF:Vietnam and maybe a demo of BFBC. I haven't really been into any multiplayer PC FPSes since Counterstrike, so I'm kind of itching for something new to play.

My 4890 has been serving me well for the past two years or so, but this is looking FAR too good for me not to upgrade.
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Zapp Brannigan: If we can hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate.

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GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
My 4890 has been serving me well for the past two years or so, but this is looking FAR too good for me not to upgrade.
Likewise, I have a 4870 that has served me very well, and I think it will be time to retire it soon. I'm more concerned with upgrading my CPU at the moment though and might actually do some minor upgrades to my PC this week. The point was to replace my aging Core 2 Duo (E6600) with a quad, but now I'm even considering the Phenom II X6. I'm not certain I should waste the money though. The plan was to get an X4 to hold me over until either the end of this year or early next year when I'd do a more serious upgrade. Right now I just want more cores, and this LGA775 motherboard isn't going to cut it, thanks to the inflated price of the Q9550.

I'll think about a GPU later if I decide I need one, but would rather wait until the end of the year before I get too serious about upgrades. It's a three way race between three Phenom II's: X4 955 BE, X4 965 BE, and X6 1100T BE. I'm not sure what to do.
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 6999 Days
I'm working with the X4 955 BE at the moment. Been working quite well, but I don't have much basis for comparison as I was working with a super shitty prefab Compaq before two years ago.

Any word on how the X6es are? As for GPUs, are the 6900s reviewing well?
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Zapp Brannigan: If we can hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate.

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
I'm working with the X4 955 BE at the moment. Been working quite well, but I don't have much basis for comparison as I was working with a super shitty prefab Compaq before two years ago.

Any word on how the X6es are? As for GPUs, are the 6900s reviewing well?
They are.. but they're the same exact price as the GTX560Ti which has been getting a lot of press too. I'm going to have to do some research into which is actually better. I might pick one of those up (the 6950 or the GTX560Ti), but I think I'll wait until they hit around the $200 price point if I do--Or I'll just tough it out with my 4870 for a little while longer. I don't need to pump everything up beyond "awesome" in the settings menu to be happy, and I'm getting pretty good performance in all of my games already. Hell.. just forcing triple buffering increased my performance in BC2 quite a bit. It's almost enough to make me hold off on an incremental upgrade. I have some money though and I really want to do it anyway.

The 955BE is definitely the cheapest path for me to add to get to quad core performance. Maybe I'll go with my initial instinct and just spend as little money as possible for the time being. The allure of having six cores (which aren't as fast as intel's best quads anyway.. but still AMD's best CPU's) for only $80 more is really freaking tempting.
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Doom_Bringer - I have terrible taste
Doom_Bringer
Since 6337 Days
I'd hold off on the GPU upgrade but I'd get a quad for sure (if you still have a dual). This tech sounds really AMAZING read this:

http://www.nowgamer.com/features/124...ls?o=2#list...
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It’s seriously impressive stuff, but even a blind man could see that it clearly wasn’t running on an Xbox 360. So what about us mere mortals who don’t own a Skynet-style PC? How will our console cope?

“We knew that people would think that this demo was running on PC, but the good thing is that it’s all based on streaming,” Bach tells us.“We have a super-powerful streaming pipeline, which makes it possible to stream high-end data through the game so every frame we look at will have fresh data. This means you don’t have to load everything at once; you don’t have to fill the level at the start. In BC2, you have 512 megs of memory; you load it, you play it, done. The objects you saw at the end needed to be loaded at the start, and you think, ‘It took me an hour to get to this point where I can see it, so what’s the point?’

“That’s the whole magic with this. We can have 512 megs every hundred metres if we wanted to, as we can just flush the data out [and replace it] as you move along. I can promise you that the console versions will still look amazing because of the core technology. If you have a 360, we want to use that machine to the maximum.”
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szaromir
szaromir
Since 6770 Days
Of course they want to push consoles to maximum, what would be the point of sparing resources.

I have Ati 4870 in my HTPC, the TV is 1366x768, so pretty much everything is 60fps. I'll probably hold off with upgrade for anther year or maybe even longer.
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