Battlefield 3 -- Now with *less* suppression!

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GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
Posted by crookedmind
http://youtu.be/1B-EJdh8U1Y?hd=1

Enjoy... Game is still broke.
Oh is the patch out or something?

(note: it's not)

I don't think that anyone would argue that the game is perfect yet. It's still friggin great though. If you want to find an honest, no bullshit game of BF3, you can. You may have to look a little harder for it, but you can. The fact that people swarm to Metro in the first place is almost a bigger problem. Also, the everyday implications of this glitch are actually worse in my opinion. The team switch thing is awful, but the persistence of C4 in general is a problem. You know what's even worse? Stupid server settings. Instant vehicle spawn breaks the balance of so many maps, but like the Metro nonsense, plenty of people crowd those servers as well.

And yet.. it's still quite easy to find great games of BF3. Battlefield has never been perfect.. but it's always been great.

But bring on the patch. This is one of many actual BS things it will fix. I'm still quite uneasy about the laser guidance stuff and the attachment modifications, but I'm anxious to play it.
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GeRaLTo
GeRaLTo
Since 6563 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
Be nice. Bad taste is not the same thing as low standards.
PC elitist admin is not the same as experienced gamer but thanks anyway...I guess haha ;)

Anyway Im so bored with that game that even that upcoming close quarters dlc is something Id love to play already, meanwhile I enjoy the most ridiculous gun ever - usas12 . That with some C4 trolling equals some good laugh
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Doom_Bringer - I have terrible taste
Doom_Bringer
Since 6337 Days
this game got boring pretty fast, after putting in a 130 hours since launch I have no desire to play it again. With such ridiculous map pack release dates, I doubt I will be playing it anytime soon :/
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GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
Okay, I'm not bored (and neither are the tens of thousands of people playing on any platform at any given moment), but what's so ridiculous about releasing DLC in June? Has the ridiculous pace of DLC really skewed peoples opinions this much? I didn't realize that people who didn't like the game in the first place would be so eager to buy DLC.. lol.

There are already 13 maps, and I think a lot of them are really solid. My favorite sandbox maps are Kharg, Caspian, and Firestorm.. and then all four of the Karkand maps. I also love Bazaar (Best Battlefield infantry combat period) and quite like Seine. That leaves about three that I mostly don't care for, although I've had some great games on Canals and Tehran Highway too.

Honestly.. if you don't like this game.. it's probably not because it's broken. It's probably that you just don't like the game. Alternatively, you may need more people too. This game really comes alive with a proper squad.
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blmbox
Since 6345 Days
I'd rather DLC get released far in advance than, erm, on release...
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
I think it's just an attention span thing. A lot of people play a lot of games. I don't knock that. I'm more the type to find a few games I really love and play the shit out of them. That's just in terms of DLC bitching. The more common bitching is probably just an indicator that you don't like the game. That's cool too. You're probably not even playing it at this point anyway, if that's the case, so move on.. I guess. I'm one of these weirdos that can't wait for the CQC DLC and I love sandbox games too. I don't mind the fact that BF3 isn't BF2 and I find it ironic that some of the people bitching about it not being "authentic" enough turn around and grind out points on Metro and Seine Rush (hi Aphex! ;)).

I can't complain about the lack of more sandboxes. They're already there, and I quite like the Bad Company style levels like Seine and Bazaar (CQ).
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Viginti_Tres
Since 6516 Days
You really don't mind the CQ DLC coming in June? After I saw this I was rather worried...
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GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
Posted by Viginti_Tres
You really don't mind the CQ DLC coming in June? After I saw this I was rather worried...
I like CQC.. so no.. I'm not terribly concerned. Four maps does not the whole game make. I don't think quality was the complaint anyway, just that it's taking too long to arrive. And while this CS Office sorta thing may not "fit" in the BF universe, it's a short clip of one scrub playing on one map (on team deathmatch). I'll wait for more before I'm rip it to pieces.
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Doom_Bringer - I have terrible taste
Doom_Bringer
Since 6337 Days
Game might be big in Euro land or Asia but in North America it's kinda dead, lots of 0 people servers unless you try in the late evening. But whatever, I liked Bad Company 2 more than this, I wish Dice would port over some of the rush maps to BF3 but that will never happen.
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GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
Posted by Doom_Bringer
Game might be big in Euro land or Asia but in North America it's kinda dead, lots of 0 people servers unless you try in the late evening.
Oh, this again, really? The game is no where near dead in North America. Empty servers do not a dead game make. This game frequently has more peak players than MW3 on PC. Open your filters, filter OUT empty servers, scroll down. Keep scrolling. Re-sort by players. There are multiple pages full of populated servers with open slots, and even though you can't see them, plenty of full servers as well.
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But whatever, I liked Bad Company 2 more than this, I wish Dice would port over some of the rush maps to BF3 but that will never happen.
Yeah.. the authentic BF experience.
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crookedmind
crookedmind
Since 6355 Days
None of my favorite servers exist any longer. Hardcore is a ghost town. I'm leaning with Doom on this one unfortunately.
Though, I would never play this game on normal mode, so I've no idea about the overall NA numbers outside of my play-times.
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Doom_Bringer
Since 6337 Days
Posted by crookedmind
None of my favorite servers exist any longer. Hardcore is a ghost town. I'm leaning with Doom on this one unfortunately.
Though, I would never play this game on normal mode, so I've no idea about the overall NA numbers outside of my play-times.
Pretty much...only two servers in my fav list are active and both are normal mode, HC is totally dead. HC was a lot of fun in BC2 :/
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
Posted by Doom_Bringer
Pretty much...only two servers in my fav list are active and both are normal mode, HC is totally dead. HC was a lot of fun in BC2 :/
HC isn't dead because your favorite servers are dead. I have people in my friends list who exclusively play HC when they're not playing with me. I don't understand the appeal of hardcore, but this still boils down to anecdotal bullshit. The number of dead servers has absolutely nothing to say about the number of players, only that there are more servers than necesarry. That's pretty damn common in any game where players rent servers.

Your favorites list is not an accurate indicator of the health of the player pool.

Rather than trying to argue with people who are convinced that this game is both horrible and dead, I want to continue encourage people who are playing (or who are interested in playing) to check out rivaLxfactor's youtube feed. It's a great resource for anyone who is actually interested in learning to play, rather than bitching and blaming their horrible performance on lag/hax (instead of their shitty accuracy, awareness and general lack of knowledge).

http://www.youtube.com/user/rivaLxfactor?ob=0&feat...

Also, check out D00M49's youtube for general silly bullshit.
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Doom_Bringer
Since 6337 Days
I dunno man, this game just didn't click with me at all. The game seems to be missing a lot of silly bullshit that was in other BF titles...the explosions look boring, the maps are boring, the American forces look boring (they look a bit too realistic for my taste, missing the cartoony feel of the older BF titles), the radio commands are missing and it makes it difficult to get help or request pick ups. The new landmine spotting mechanic is pathetic as well (sucks cause I love the engy class), finally I think Dice lost the 5 seconds of fun mechanic from the series, I find the vehicular combat to be a chore while the infantry combat is only good on a few maps

I think my main problem with this game is the lack of good maps:

Operation Firestorm = boring
The orange canals map = boring
Grand Bazaar = boring
Sharqi peninsula = boring (didn't like this one in BF2 either)
Wake = boring (I really wanted to like this but it's just not the same, I think they made it a bit too vertical)
Karkand = boring (played this a lot in BF2 but don't care about it now)
Kharg Island = boring
Damavand Peak = crap map

Tehran Highway = this one is ok, I really like the rush version

Gulf of Oman = fun
Metro = Fun map
Seine Crossing = fun
caspian = fun (lots of places to hide, place landmines, good map)

After putting in 130+ hours, I am done with this game.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
You keep saying that, yet you keep coming in here to bitch about it. If you're really done, please be done and move the fuck on.

Infantry combat is the best in the series and vehicle combat is as good as only DICE can seem to make it. The game is very good. I'd say to try playing it with a full squad, since it's much better that way, but hey.. I don't think you want to like Battlefield 3, so why bother? Cartoony feel? What the fuck?
Grand Bazaar = boring
Sharqi peninsula = boring (didn't like this one in BF2 either)
Wake = boring (I really wanted to like this but it's just not the same, I think they made it a bit too vertical)
Karkand = boring (played this a lot in BF2 but don't care about it now)
Kharg Island = boring
Yeah, all of those maps are good to great. Haters gonna hate, etc etc.

TL;DR: The game is great. Hardcore and rush typically suck. It just doesn't suite your tastes so go find something that does and quit whining about it already.
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crookedmind
crookedmind
Since 6355 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
HC isn't dead because your favorite servers are dead.
Well, I'm NA, and it's completely dead during my play times. That's all that matters really, not that its active somewhere in Slovakia. I'm the one getting the ass end of the deal and it's horseshit. The idea that it went from over 100+ fav servers practically full 24/7 to 10 with 0/0 with 600 ping is a fucking problem silly to deny.

They need to find out where they went wrong and bring players back. I don't think this upcoming DLC will do it either.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
I only play on NA servers and it's pretty easy to find packed games just about always. This is stupid. Your favorites list is not an indicator of anything.

There are dozens and dozens of populated HC servers with open slots right now, there were earlier too. Very few servers develop their own community in any game. There are certainly still servers that are almost always packed in BF3, they're just not the ones you arbitrarily added to your favorites list. If this game is dead than online gaming is dead. There are plenty of games with far fewer players than BF3 that still have viable communities.

And hey, I can get picky at times too. There are very few people who play infantry only, which I quite like, but I'm not saying the game is dead because of it. That would be silly.
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crookedmind
crookedmind
Since 6355 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
I only play on NA servers and it's pretty easy to find packed games just about always. This is stupid. Your favorites list is not an indicator of anything.
Not just talking about my favorites here. I'd say ping is a great indicator.

What is stupid, is your undying love for something obviously flawed. I'm not sure what you have to gain for defending BF3 so hard. I enjoy the game too, but I'm not blind enough to say it doesn't have serious problems.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
Posted by crookedmind
Not just talking about my favorites here. I'd say ping is a great indicator.
Then you're either being too specific in your searches or you're just.. wrong. There are plenty of HC games running in NA. Right now. Earlier. Later. Whenever.
Posted by crookedmind
I enjoy the game too, but I'm not blind enough to say it doesn't have serious problems.
I'm pretty sure I've said the same thing on this very page. You stopped playing two months ago, didn't you? Sounds like you don't enjoy the game. I'm well aware of the games flaws. That's all you seem to be aware of, and all you seem interested in talking about. There's absolutely no joy in this game for you, at least here, so I fail to see the point of this.

I'm not trying to convince you to like it or anything. That would be equally pointless. But if you've put some time into this game and you've abandoned it, you probably just don't like it. In that case it's a little cyclical to continue to bitch about it. I've expressed my concern over frequently playing with game balance, I've bitched extensively about specific bugs and flaws, both here and on battlelog. I know this game aint perfect. Try and find me one that is.
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crookedmind
crookedmind
Since 6355 Days
The fact that there is a tons of problems is also a good indicator. You still didn't answer the question either.
As far as personally playing? Yes, the reason why I haven't played in 2 months has to do with 600 ping servers ^ as mentioned, let alone HC mode servers that are playable. I can take some screens if you want? But I'm quite sure from your history of DICE can do no wrong, or undercutting severity, it would be of no use...

If you would like to talk about all the positives about the game we can do that to, I was unaware of the rules the dictator of this topic set in place, and I can shift gears if needed. I was under the impression forums were for debate, not just bullet timing people we differ opinions with.

In short, no matter how much we stroke each other off about how the game is in our opinion, it will not bring the players back. The only ones who can do this is DICE. People who enjoy the game for different reasons than I, play on different servers, and play differently than I. Therefore, if the game is limiting you to something you do not play, what is it?

Reply to your edit:
I played it until they broke it. I'll have you know I loved it, and so did the many others who left. Then they made the game for people who generally suck, and those of younger age. Why they chose to make the poor changes to the game and not focus on the bugs and exploits is not something I can answer. I've theories though.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
The fact that there is a tons of problems is also a good indicator. You still didn't answer the question either.
What question?

It apparently doesn't matter how many times I agree that DICE can indeed do wrong either.

That was, however, never the point. The game is so far from dead it aint funny. It doesn't need the players to "come back," the player bleed is well within normal margins for a game this big.

Has anyone been bouleted here? Debate? LOL. Running in circles isn't debate. The game has issues. Many of them are already being addressed (many of the ones you bring up are in the list for the upcoming patch), and it will continue to be imperfect after the update as well. There will always be something for you to bitch about it. Feel free to continue to do so. I don't give a shit.

And it's far from ridiculous for me to want people to actually talk about the game and not just friggin' bitch and moan about how endlessly broken and unfixable it is. If you really believe that, then there's nothing more to discuss.. and if you really wanted discussion, there's better ways to approach that than being a douche about everything. I should know.

I've agreed on a lot of the complaints about this game. I'll continue to have plenty of my own. Hell, on Battlelog I've done more bitching than praising. Here I seem to be the only person who actually likes the game.
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crookedmind
crookedmind
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Posted by Tinks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c1PBufdfcE&feature=player_embedded
The part with the jet crashing into the construction complex is great. (1:50 ish)
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JMadden
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I have to agree with Grift. It is a great game, and there are still tons of players... It's very, very, far from being dead.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7014 Days
Posted by JMadden
I have to agree with Grift. It is a great game, and there are still tons of players... It's very, very, far from being dead.
Let's go down the rabbit hole again! ;)

That video was awesome. The Mario dub linked in the response field is good too, but now quite as well done.

Watching xfactor's streams has me itching for competition. My clan is exceptionally lazy sometimes. I think I'm going to start ringing for other teams so I can get some match xp, even if it's just for 4v4 Squad Rush. I'm running into some resistance starting a 4v4 ladder team, since everyone is more interested in 8v8's. That'd be great, if we had the numbers to field a solid 8v8 team. We totally don't and no body is even trying to recruit. I'm missin' out on the best part of this game.
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