I play the PAM mod most with CAL's current ruleset. It's basically just a competition mod that restricts certain perks and rebalanced a few weapons, in addition to removing the killstreak modifiers. It's most widely used on private servers for match play, but there are some pretty good pubs that use it too.

There's also an IRC channel for COD4 pugs, #cod4pug, which will get you into pick up groups (with several hosted private servers and their own vent) with some pretty good players if you want to check out how the game is played in competition.

The map I was thinking of is called Village I believe.. and is a fairly large map that someone from the community ripped from the single player game.

Reading this, it looks like the Xbox 360 maps will be 800pts.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/29933/Activision-reveals...Interesting to see if they are released officially on the PC as they would have to charge the same amount for them if that's right. Can't see that going down well.

Oh, you beat me deft. And 800pts sounds pretty high for four maps to me. Seeing as how I haven't played COD4 in quite a while anyway I might skip this.

There's absolutely no system in place that would prevent people from ripping new official maps as "custom" maps and installing them on legit servers. It's impossible for them to sell these maps on the PC without themselves getting ripped off (oh the irony). We'll see how true all of these DLC "rules" are very soon.. isn't Valve releasing a map pack on XBL at a premium and supplying the same maps on the PC for free?

Oh and LOL @ the price. $10 for a map pack.. or 1/5th the cost of the actual game. Hilarious. This console generation has ruined a post release support model that has worked for a decade+. Thanks, publishers+consumers.

Blame Microsoft.. oh no wait, blame EA that's EAsier to deal with.

That's why I said publishers+consumers. I wouldn't blame the developers to be honest.. as we've seen multiple examples of developers this generation wanting to offer free post release support and basically being told "no" by their respective publishers. They believe that this is the best way to maximize profits, so this is the route they're most likely to take.

Now we can't ignore the fact that these publishers are running a business and that people are willing to pay for what was once free, and that's why we have to let consumers (which includes many of us) take some of the accountability for the current market trends.

The one thing that really gets me is.. that Epic is running a business too, as a strong indy developer of both games and massively licensed technology. Mark Rein's position on this issue really does make a lot of sense, from the perspective of running a business. Some people don't seem to understand that offering free support can just be another approach to maximizing your popularity and as an extension of that your profits. Mark gets it.. but he can't convince the cronies at Microsoft of the same.

That's really a shame, because I've always thought about Microsoft as a company that looks at the big picture. They don't mind putting their money into programs that appear to fail at the gate, if it gets their foot into the doorway of an industry. It really does seem like they're looking at short term returns as the ultimate answer here, which isn't necessarily always what is best for business.If that's true than this whole, "what's free on one platform must be free on the Xbox" line I keep hearing from people (hi deft!) is already false.. and honestly if that is false you shouldn't be mad, you should rejoice that there's still at least one facet of gaming that hasn't been dirtied by bad business practices.

And then buy a new videocard and come over to the dark side.

No wai, developers wouldn't make money without premium DLC.

/s

The Caratan remake looks awesome.