Call of Duty 4 thread

Since 6881 Days

Posted by Inflatable

Well, there you have your extra big FU.. Instead of making it cheaper (or even free) because the game already sold so well they manage to make it more expensive then the expected 400 points because all they can see is the extra money it will bring in because so many will buy it anyway (because the suckers are hooked to the game)..

IW and MS's way of saying thanks to all the fans.. ;)

And offcourse they will not release them on PC.. MS probably made sure of that.. And those damn PC pirates don't derserve their 'thanks' anyway (sarcasm)..

Yes, completely ignore Activision why don't you. It them and only them who have any say on the pricing after all.

There are two ways to make your voices heard about PDLC pricing you don't agree with. The most effective is not buying it and the second is to voice your displeasure at the right people.

Microsoft have zip to do with the pricing on the PS3 or the PC. If Activision wanted them to be free, they were perfectly within their rights do so, even if the "MS blocking free stuff on Live" conspiracy theory some of you are so keen on were true. Given they've got plenty of previous to boot (daft Guitar Hero II pricing being the worst example) it should be them who get the stick here.

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[quote=Inflatable]
Well, there you have your extra big FU.. Instead of making it cheaper (or even free) because the game already sold so well they manage to make it more expensive then the expected 400 points because all they can see is the extra money it will bring in because so many will buy it anyway (because the suckers are hooked to the game)..

IW and MS's way of saying thanks to all the fans.. ;)

And offcourse they will not release them on PC.. MS probably made sure of that.. And those damn PC pirates don't derserve their 'thanks' anyway (sarcasm)..[/quote]

Yes, completely ignore Activision why don't you. It them and only them who have any say on the pricing after all.

There are two ways to make your voices heard about PDLC pricing you don't agree with. The most effective is not buying it and the second is to voice your displeasure [i]at the right people.[/i]

Microsoft have zip to do with the pricing on the PS3 or the PC. If Activision wanted them to be free, they were perfectly within their rights do so, even if the "MS blocking free stuff on Live" conspiracy theory some of you are so keen on were true. Given they've got plenty of previous to boot (daft Guitar Hero II pricing being the worst example) it should be them who get the stick here.

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TheBeagle

Since 6618 Days

It's not easy to know who is in the wrong. I've read various stories blaming different people and the problem, for me, is that I really want to play these maps. But I'm also not happy that they are charging such prices. There are various ways that I justify the purchase to myself, the biggest being that I will play the absolute crap out of them.

When all is said and done, I will pay the fiver for the maps because I know the amount of pleasure that I will get out of them is great enough. That doesn't mean I don't feel angry about it.

I've run into a lot of people who don't give a shit about paying. They either think that the developers deserve the money because they believe they put a lot of effort into the maps or they have played on consoles from the start and don't know any different.

I could vote with my wallet but instead I'm going to download these maps day one. Play all day, and forget all about it after realizing that they have breathed new life into an already ludicrously brilliant game. Good luck convincing the hundreds of thousands of consumers that they are being ripped off.

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It's not easy to know who is in the wrong. I've read various stories blaming different people and the problem, for me, is that I really want to play these maps. But I'm also not happy that they are charging such prices. There are various ways that I justify the purchase to myself, the biggest being that I will play the absolute crap out of them.

When all is said and done, I will pay the fiver for the maps because I know the amount of pleasure that I will get out of them is great enough. That doesn't mean I don't feel angry about it.

I've run into a lot of people who don't give a shit about paying. They either think that the developers deserve the money because they believe they put a lot of effort into the maps or they have played on consoles from the start and don't know any different.

I could vote with my wallet but instead I'm going to download these maps day one. Play all day, and forget all about it after realizing that they have breathed new life into an already ludicrously brilliant game. Good luck convincing the hundreds of thousands of consumers that they are being ripped off.

Strange memories on this nervous night in Las Vegas. Has it been five years? Six? It seems like a lifetime.

GriftGFX

Since 7013 Days

Posted by TheBeagle

Right, cause theres already a map set in San Fransisco in COD4. Chinatown for crying out loud. So cool. The only one which looks similar to any of the current maps is Creek. Looks reminiscent of Overgrown. But even then it is going to play vastly different. Weren't those three maps for Halo 800 points?

Chinatown (which is the Caratan remake) isn't very "samey" at all, considering it's an entirely new tile set, and not a map featured in the single player campaign.

Posted by deftangel

It them and only them who have any say on the pricing after all.

That's not what Valve said :P

And as for MS blocking free content on live.. I'm not so sure that's a conspiracy anymore. Oh I forgot about Forge.. lol?

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TheBeagle

Since 6618 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

Chinatown (which is the Caratan remake) isn't very "samey" at all, considering it's an entirely new tile set, and not a map featured in the single player campaign.

Yeah, totally. Really excited for this one especially. I saw all sorts of new assets in there.

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mt_sabao

Since 6444 Days

Yeah i mean, the maps do look really good and i've been (along with many other of the millions of players) looking for fresh content (as i've played this game non stop ever since it came out). So, i do think they are worth the money and i will buy them day one for sure. But i am aware and worried about the implications of this of course: was this content held back to milk the users or was it developed with feedback from them and to please them? And will we see this more and more, paying 60euro for a game+10 extra content+5euro themes+...? It's crap it's true, but then we all know Nike shoes are manufactured on the far reaches of the world, where people are paid 3 euros per month, exploited to their bones and we still obliviously wear them... I'm sorry about the lame analogy, but my point is we know we are swimming in very murky waters, our wallets are being sucked by greedy companies (MS, Activision...), but still, there's demand therefore they charge whatever they want. sad but true.

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Yeah i mean, the maps do look really good and i've been (along with many other of  the millions of players) looking for fresh content (as i've played this game non stop ever since it came out). So, i do think they are worth the money and i will buy them day one for sure. But i am aware and worried about the implications of this of course: was this content held back to milk the users or was it  developed with feedback from them and to please them? And will we see this more and more, paying 60euro for a game+10 extra content+5euro themes+...? It's crap it's true, but then we all know Nike shoes are manufactured on the far reaches of the world, where people are paid 3 euros per month, exploited to their bones and we still obliviously wear them... I'm sorry about the lame analogy, but my point is we know we are swimming in very murky waters, our wallets are being sucked by greedy companies (MS, Activision...), but still, there's demand therefore they charge whatever they want. sad but true.

deftangel

Since 6881 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

That's not what Valve said :P

EA are Valve's publisher so it's down to them. The direct comments I saw from Valve regarding TF2 didn't mention anyone in particular, just that it wasn't up to them. Perhaps you saw different ones that I missed?

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Inflatable

Since 7651 Days

Posted by deftangel

Yes, completely ignore Activision why don't you. It them and only them who have any say on the pricing after all.

They too.. I don't care who's really to blame.. The platform is offered by MS, the game by IW and Activision, so either or all of them are to blame..

Posted by TheBeagle

It's not easy to know who is in the wrong. I've read various stories blaming different people and the problem, for me, is that I really want to play these maps. But I'm also not happy that they are charging such prices. There are various ways that I justify the purchase to myself, the biggest being that I will play the absolute crap out of them.

When all is said and done, I will pay the fiver for the maps because I know the amount of pleasure that I will get out of them is great enough. That doesn't mean I don't feel angry about it.

I've run into a lot of people who don't give a shit about paying. They either think that the developers deserve the money because they believe they put a lot of effort into the maps or they have played on consoles from the start and don't know any different.

I could vote with my wallet but instead I'm going to download these maps day one. Play all day, and forget all about it after realizing that they have breathed new life into an already ludicrously brilliant game. Good luck convincing the hundreds of thousands of consumers that they are being ripped off.

It is frustrating as it's almost a lost battle.. All I/we can hope for is that some day people will see the light and stop buying DLC, even down to stupid gamepics and theme's .. But to be honest I think the days of free DLC are over.. The free platform PC is losing ground, closed industry controlled platforms (read: consoles) are taking over.. Nothing you can do as an individual..

I'm gonna sin today aswell against my believes by buying the new Forza2 carpack.. I'm just as weak as everybody else if I want something bad enough.. But like I said, cars or models whatever is not as bad as tracks or maps as it doesn't serperate me from other players, I can still play with everybody.. If you don't buy a DLC track or map you are out if others go play them, and that sucks, no matter the excuse.. To much buisiness is killing the fun..

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[quote=deftangel]Yes, completely ignore Activision why don't you. It them and only them who have any say on the pricing after all.[/quote]They too.. I don't care who's really to blame.. The platform is offered by MS, the game by IW and Activision, so either or all of them are to blame..

[quote=TheBeagle]It's not easy to know who is in the wrong. I've read various stories blaming different people and the problem, for me, is that I really want to play these maps. But I'm also not happy that they are charging such prices. There are various ways that I justify the purchase to myself, the biggest being that I will play the absolute crap out of them.

When all is said and done, I will pay the fiver for the maps because I know the amount of pleasure that I will get out of them is great enough. That doesn't mean I don't feel angry about it.

I've run into a lot of people who don't give a shit about paying. They either think that the developers deserve the money because they believe they put a lot of effort into the maps or they have played on consoles from the start and don't know any different.

I could vote with my wallet but instead I'm going to download these maps day one. Play all day, and forget all about it after realizing that they have breathed new life into an already ludicrously brilliant game. Good luck convincing the hundreds of thousands of consumers that they are being ripped off.[/quote]It is frustrating as it's almost a lost battle.. All I/we can hope for is that some day people will see the light and stop buying DLC, even down to stupid gamepics and theme's .. But to be honest I think the days of free DLC are over.. The free platform PC is losing ground, closed industry controlled platforms (read: consoles) are taking over.. Nothing you can do as an individual..

I'm gonna sin today aswell against my believes by buying the new Forza2 carpack.. I'm just as weak as everybody else if I want something bad enough.. But like I said, cars or models whatever is not as bad as tracks or maps as it doesn't serperate me from other players, I can still play with everybody.. If you don't buy a DLC track or map you are out if others go play them, and that sucks, no matter the excuse.. To much buisiness is killing the fun..

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Jin187

Since 6757 Days

Posted by Inflatable

I'm gonna sin today aswell against my believes by buying the new Forza2 carpack.

High Five!!! It is a pretty irresistable package though :)

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TheBeagle

Since 6618 Days

April 3rd according to http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/marketplace/c/callo...

Can't wait.

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Inflatable

Since 7651 Days

I already have over 10 custom CoD4 maps on my PC server which cost $0.-.. You guys go ahead and pay $10.- for 4 maps on the Xbox 360.. LOL!

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TheBeagle

Since 6618 Days

That was a bit unnecessary...

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rob230

Since 6422 Days

Yeah don't kick us while we're down ;)

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Inflatable

Since 7651 Days

:P

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rob230

Since 6422 Days

Maps should be on Live tonight/tomorrow morning, glad I'm 'working' from home tomorrow! woot

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TheBeagle

Since 6618 Days

Yeah, I'm glad this delay wasn't true. Looking forward to taking these maps for a spin even if it means parting with 800 points.

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ProjectCodex

Since 6230 Days

they up yet ?

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TheBeagle

Since 6618 Days

Not yet.

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Posted by fourzerotwo

Looks like the official release time for the new Variety Map Pack DLC for Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare is going to be 6:30 AM PST Friday morning.

Which I believe is about 2:30pm GMT. Basically in about 4 hours.

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ProjectCodex

Since 6230 Days

good :) cangt w8 for the m went out bought mp espesially for them :)

creek and chinatown look good but not to keen on killhouse. and still wondering wether the tv station on will be any good.

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ProjectCodex

Since 6230 Days

am i right in saying that new weapons and a new prestige mode will be released too but not with this map pack?

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TheBeagle

Since 6618 Days

Thats the first I've heard of it. I think the TV station map, Broadcast, looks really good actually. Fighting in that big open room is going to be a lot of fun.

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ProjectCodex

Since 6230 Days

oh well iv heard bowt that. and oh didnt know u got to go in the big room just got told it was near that place not in the building :| lol well sounds fun. but the w8ing isnt :(

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rob230

Since 6422 Days

MAPS ARE UP ON LIVE (for those interested)

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TheBeagle

Since 6618 Days

Yup, downloading right now. Good break from Condemned 2, which just scared the absolute piss outta me.

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ProjectCodex

Since 6230 Days

:( i cant get them still in college till 5 pm :(

are they any good?

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TheBeagle

Since 6618 Days

Still downloading, but going fast. I'll come back on in about an hour an write a bit about them.

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