Forza Motorsport 2

Optimusv2

Since 6899 Days

LOL what the hell jin the first forza in some parts of that vids looks better than forza 2 wtf =P

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October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Jin187

Since 6751 Days

Posted by Optimusv2

LOL what the hell jin the first forza in some parts of that vids looks better than forza 2 wtf =P

LOL!!

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LEBATO

Since 7128 Days

Wow...........what a huge typo there Jin187. I'll just ignore your post until you fix it. Are you sure you don't have the keyboard upside down?

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Scarface

Since 6993 Days

Posted by Jin187

Forza Motorsport:
http://uk.media.xbox.ign.com/media/682/682857/vid_...

Rallysport 2:
http://uk.media.xbox.ign.com/media/482/482216/vid_...

Watching those vids shows how far we've come in terms of not just visuals, but physic and gameplay from last gen. Gameplay looked horrible in Rallysport 2, really simple like out run or something.

Forza 2 really is a massive leap in terms of everything, not just visuals like GTHD.

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Jin187

Since 6751 Days

Posted by Scarface

Watching those vids shows how far we've come in terms of not just visuals, but physic and gameplay from last gen. Gameplay looked horrible in Rallysport 2, really simple like out run or something.

Forza 2 really is a massive leap in terms of everything, not just visuals like GTHD.

Yeh the physics in Rallisport are pretty avg at best, the handling is solid but the cars feel like toys racers. Forza 1's physics are much better, and Forza 2 is leagues ahead.

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anm8rjp

Since 7704 Days

from forza motorsport official boards:

Interview podcast with Che:

http://www.achievementjunkie.com/

Basically they had an issue with the demo during cert. and it has been delayed...che said that he wants to say it will be out this week.....but he cant. So no demo yet. He did say the actual game went through cert. ok though so at least thats a sure thing

demo track: mugello short track

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Jin187

Since 6751 Days

Mugello YAY!!

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Bingham67

Since 6624 Days

Awesome :)

This game has brought so much hype delay after delay on demo i swear the servers will melt down when it comes out.

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Jin187

Since 6751 Days

I'm really suprised at truly insane the level of intrest with this game, was the first one was nowhere near this big or was it??

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INDIGO

Since 7709 Days

There's always been a lot of interest. When Forza came out, there were countless "GT4 vs. Forza vs. PGR2" discussions. What's funny is that a sim racer should be about the last type of game you'd expect to generate so much discussion; I guess people find it easy to do comparisons with something so familiar (cars, which we see every day).

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Acert93

Since 6977 Days

Indigo, you do realize that one of the most popular games last gen was a sim racer(GT sold over 10M copies, right up there with GTA3) and that the best of the best sell very well? Even FM1 has broken the 2M mark. You make it sound as if it is an unpopular genre.

As for FM2, the graphics don't seem to have received their last minute shackling of paint and missing features (bloom and aliasing can be horrible). But having watching a looong video at 60fps I can confirm it is silky smooth and looks technically sound. Should be a great sim.

lol @ comments about RC2 only having 4 cars compared to Forza's 8 when RC2 is 60fps and Forza 30fps... what happened to 60fps being all important and being "ok" with the reduction of the number of cars to hit that target. How standards change to defend a game.

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szaromir

Since 6763 Days

Posted by Acert93

Indigo, you do realize that one of the most popular games last gen was a sim racer(GT sold over 10M copies, right up there with GTA3) and that the best of the best sell very well? Even FM1 has broken the 2M mark.

It has? Could you provide me with a link? I thought it sold half of that number. Then again, I could have old data and even I bought my copy very recently (a month ago).

As for FM2, the graphics don't seem to have received their last minute shackling of paint and missing features (bloom and aliasing can be horrible). But having watching a looong video at 60fps I can confirm it is silky smooth and looks technically sound. Should be a great sim.

Yeah, they cut a lot of originally announced features, but I still want to check demo before deciding whether or not it's worth buying (I want CMR Dirt demo too, as I want to buy one of these two) - too bad certification takes sooo long.:/

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Optimusv2

Since 6899 Days

Posted by Acert93

Indigo, you do realize that one of the most popular games last gen was a sim racer(GT sold over 10M copies, right up there with GTA3) and that the best of the best sell very well? Even FM1 has broken the 2M mark. You make it sound as if it is an unpopular genre.

As for FM2, the graphics don't seem to have received their last minute shackling of paint and missing features (bloom and aliasing can be horrible). But having watching a looong video at 60fps I can confirm it is silky smooth and looks technically sound. Should be a great sim.

lol @ comments about RC2 only having 4 cars compared to Forza's 8 when RC2 is 60fps and Forza 30fps... what happened to 60fps being all important and being "ok" with the reduction of the number of cars to hit that target. How standards change to defend a game.

Hehe one could say that the 60fps argument didn't save Forza 2 from the barage it received in PGR3 comparisons so what are the chances of it saving RC2? I'd say very slim.

People want graphics and they wanted them yesterday. Anyway

forza_motorsport_2_exclu_5_-_dodge_francais_36224.avi

157MB file is by far the best forza 2 gameplay video online and it shows that the game looks pretty damn good :D

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[quote=Acert93]Indigo, you do realize that one of the most popular games last gen was a sim racer(GT sold over 10M copies, right up there with GTA3) and that the best of the best sell very well? Even FM1 has broken the 2M mark. You make it sound as if it is an unpopular genre.

As for FM2, the graphics don't seem to have received their last minute shackling of paint and missing features (bloom and aliasing can be horrible). But having watching a looong video at 60fps I can confirm it is silky smooth and looks technically sound. Should be a great sim.

lol @ comments about RC2 only having 4 cars compared to Forza's 8 when RC2 is 60fps and Forza 30fps... what happened to 60fps being all important and being "ok" with the reduction of the number of cars to hit that target. How standards change to defend a game.[/quote]

Hehe one could say that the 60fps argument didn't save Forza 2 from the barage it received in PGR3 comparisons so what are the chances of it saving RC2?  I'd say very slim.

People want graphics and they wanted them yesterday.  Anyway

forza_motorsport_2_exclu_5_-_dodge_francais_36224.avi

157MB file is by far the best forza 2 gameplay video online and it shows that the game looks pretty damn good :D

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

kenshin2418

Since 6982 Days

Posted by szaromir

It has? Could you provide me with a link? I thought it sold half of that number. Then again, I could have old data and even I bought my copy very recently (a month ago).

GT3 sold around 14million(believe it's the top selling PS2 title now). GT4 sold around 6million, however those sale numbers are from back in 2005. No idea where they stand now. Those numbers also include the bundle sales, as well.
http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/Gran_Turismo_S...

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szaromir

Since 6763 Days

Posted by kenshin2418

GT3 sold around 14million(believe it's the top selling PS2 title now). GT4 sold around 6million, however those sale numbers are from back in 2005. No idea where they stand now. Those numbers also include the bundle sales, as well.
http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/Gran_Turismo_S...

I was asking about Forza;]

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kenshin2418

Since 6982 Days

Posted by szaromir

I was asking about Forza;]

Doh, my bad :P

No idea about Forza 1 sales, I didn't know it hit 2 million either. Thought it barely passed 1 million.

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LEBATO

Since 7128 Days

Posted by Optimusv2

Hehe one could say that the 60fps argument didn't save Forza 2 from the barage it received in PGR3 comparisons so what are the chances of it saving RC2? I'd say very slim.

People want graphics and they wanted them yesterday. Anyway

forza_motorsport_2_exclu_5_-_dodge_francais_36224.avi

157MB file is by far the best forza 2 gameplay video online and it shows that the game looks pretty damn good :D

Could you fix that link?

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INDIGO

Since 7709 Days

Posted by Acert93

Indigo, you do realize that one of the most popular games last gen was a sim racer(GT sold over 10M copies, right up there with GTA3) and that the best of the best sell very well? Even FM1 has broken the 2M mark. You make it sound as if it is an unpopular genre.

Okay well, the genre still gets more attention that you'd expect. Forza 2 threads have been this board's longest, by far.

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LEBATO

Since 7128 Days

Posted by Acert93

lol @ comments about RC2 only having 4 cars compared to Forza's 8 when RC2 is 60fps and Forza 30fps... what happened to 60fps being all important and being "ok" with the reduction of the number of cars to hit that target. How standards change to defend a game.

Indeed, behold the best looking racing game of last gen;
http://streamingmovies.ign.com/cars/RSC2_040604ICE...)

And I thought reflections only reflected trees?
http://streamingmovies.ign.com/cars/RSC2_040604MNC...)

http://streamingmovies.ign.com/cars/RSC2_040604PS_...)

So basically:

1)Simply NO
2) NO, just NO, and PROVEN.
3) NO JUST NO
4) Yes, with twice the polys/detail.....so I guess that's ok? Or not anymore? I don't get it then.
5) Wow, this is really grasping for straws.

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[quote=Acert93]
lol @ comments about RC2 only having 4 cars compared to Forza's 8 when RC2 is 60fps and Forza 30fps... what happened to 60fps being all important and being "ok" with the reduction of the number of cars to hit that target. How standards change to defend a game.[/quote]
Indeed, behold the best looking racing game of last gen;
http://streamingmovies.ign.com/cars/RSC2_040604ICE_06_wmvlow.wmv?wu=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.xbox.ign.com%2Fmedia%2F482%2F482216%2Fvid_797551.html%3Fmu%3D%3CURL%2F%3E','797551',60,530,490,0)

And I thought reflections only reflected trees?
http://streamingmovies.ign.com/cars/RSC2_040604MNC_07_wmvlow.wmv?wu=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.xbox.ign.com%2Fmedia%2F482%2F482216%2Fvid_797555.html%3Fmu%3D%3CURL%2F%3E','797555',60,530,490,0)

http://streamingmovies.ign.com/cars/RSC2_040604PS_03_wmvlow.wmv?wu=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.xbox.ign.com%2Fmedia%2F482%2F482216%2Fvid_797559.html%3Fmu%3D%3CURL%2F%3E','797559',60,530,490,0)

So basically:

1)Simply NO
2) NO, just NO, and PROVEN.
3) NO JUST NO
4) Yes, with twice the polys/detail.....so I guess that's ok? Or not anymore?  I don't get it then.
5) Wow, this is really grasping for straws.

Optimusv2

Since 6899 Days

Posted by LEBATO

Could you fix that link?

Its this link here.

http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/forza-motorsport-2-video-3...

For some reason I can't find the direct download link anymore, but I think this is one of the most impressive forza 2 vids on the internet.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

PlumbDrumb

Since 7000 Days

Posted by INDIGO

Okay well, the genre still gets more attention that you'd expect. Forza 2 threads have been this board's longest, by far.

and half of all those threads have been full of bullshit and bickering, including this one.

[edit]
probably closer to ALL those threads
[/edit]

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Optimusv2

Since 6899 Days

Yea I think the longest thread without constant arguments have been the blue dragon threads =P

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

PlumbDrumb

Since 7000 Days

This one is about to be closed, without regret.

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LEBATO

Since 7128 Days

Posted by Optimusv2

Its this link here.

http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/forza-motorsport-2-video-3...

For some reason I can't find the direct download link anymore, but I think this is one of the most impressive forza 2 vids on the internet.

Thanks, I couldn't download it, so I just streamed it. Nothing new though, I'm at the point I need to play it to see what else is different.

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LEBATO

Since 7128 Days

Meh, I was actually going to PM this just to you Plumb, but it's better this way so all mods see it.

What would be the point of closing the FM2 thread Plumb/mods? That doesn't end the problem if all we have to do is make another one. It's the intolerance of others to opinions, and if we are all going to Gamersyde, we better start trying to find what the priorities are. If we can't compare games at all without being called a moron.......

http://xboxyde.com/news_4293_19689_3_en.html (see post by CARB)

......where does that leave objective discussions? Come on. And it's not even about bringing games from other platforms, the simple fact of saying X game does better than FM2 in Y area gets many offended, very offended. The general response from some users around here is "WTF do you know about blah blah, it would be ok if it weren't because of the fact that game only does this and that, what a moron, lol!, go watch x or y and play that other game, don't buy this game"

Whoa, very nice, thanks I especially loved the recommendation there telling me what I should do. There are some funny ones though, like someone told me I actually don't deserve to buy this game.

On gamersyde, people will bring more games cross-platform and even more comparisons, does that mean there will be no forums at all because every thread will get locked? That's something to think about, just my opinion.

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Meh, I was actually going to PM this just to you Plumb, but it's better this way so all mods see it.

What would be the point of closing the FM2 thread Plumb/mods?  That doesn't end the problem if all we have to do is make another one.  It's the intolerance of others to opinions, and if we are all going to Gamersyde, we better start trying to find what the priorities are.  If we can't compare games at all without being called a moron.......

http://xboxyde.com/news_4293_19689_3_en.html (see post by CARB)

......where does that leave objective discussions?  Come on.  And it's not even about bringing games from other platforms, the simple fact of saying X game does better than FM2 in Y area gets many offended, very offended.  The general response from some users around here is "WTF do you know about blah blah, it would be ok if it weren't because of the fact that game only does this and that, what a moron, lol!, go watch x or y and play that other game, don't buy this game"

Whoa, very nice, thanks I especially loved the recommendation there telling me what I should do.  There are some funny ones though,  like someone told me I actually don't deserve to buy this game.

On gamersyde, people will bring more games cross-platform and even more comparisons, does that mean there will be no forums at all because every thread will get locked?  That's something to think about, just my opinion.

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