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Crap! GT5P doesn't even have closely that range if intensity than FM2. I pointed this out on some GT5P videos that looks horrible when it comes to contrast.[/quot]

GT5 may not be superior in every technical way, but the major difference I noted 24months ago still stands: PD realized that certain techniques while technically "better" aren't high enough quality to fool the brain. What PD has done is nail the "flat" angle of cars where reflections aren't as pronounced. I was just comparing 2 cars at an intersection this week where one had a very vivid reflection and the other looked quite flat. It wasn't the paint difference, but angle. PD does a nice job of normals (FM2 normals were quite low resolution--happy to see 4x texture resolution!! another area T10 addressed) and NAILING the flat angled lighting with shadow contrast. Reflections via cubemaps are always going to be tricky, especially in conjuction with highlights and the scatter of the paint shaders.No, the cars on almost every track looked like plastic toys because the colors were over saturated with "HDR" that was far too overbright for the low lighting conditions on most of the courses. It was more of an artistic mess than a technical on, but it was a mess none-the-less.

As I said, and you skipped over, Turn10 has done a looong checklist of things to address the technical issues with FM2.

[quote=Milhouse]No, certainly not. You cannot tell what everybody on this forum is seeing, because this depends on the output device. Most monitors are still not capable of showing real HDR, because they lack a good contrast ration. My 3 years old plasma tv has a much much higher intensity and contrast ratio than any pc monitor does. So videos, games or photos does really look totally different than on my monitor.